Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Mass

(27,315 posts)
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:07 AM Sep 2015

Grayson (D-FL) is hugely disappointing.

I get he is running in FL, but pandering and repeating the GOP talking points about the Iran Deal (independently of how he will vote in the end) is really sad.

I am happy not to vote in FL (though my congressman -Neal, MA) is technically still undecided), because the primary choice between Murphy and Grayson would leave me very unhappy for very different reasons.

40 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Grayson (D-FL) is hugely disappointing. (Original Post) Mass Sep 2015 OP
so much for "Congressman with guts" Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2015 #1
Welcome to Florida Politics! n/t Baitball Blogger Sep 2015 #17
I'm wondering if there's huge pressure by voters in Florida area on the Iran bill?... cascadiance Sep 2015 #2
This did not prevent his primary opponent, Patrick Murphy, to endorse the deal, and Murphy is a Mass Sep 2015 #4
IMO Murphy did not say yes until he was sure it was safe to do so. djean111 Sep 2015 #26
Bill Nelson is supporting it. Patrick Murphy who represents a conservative geek tragedy Sep 2015 #24
Never really cared for him bigwillq Sep 2015 #3
Yep. Me too, exactly n/t Tom Rinaldo Sep 2015 #28
I just had questions about his marriage... Stellar Sep 2015 #5
Wow! MoonchildCA Sep 2015 #9
I hate to think bad thoughts about Grayson but... Stellar Sep 2015 #16
Grayson's problem can be summed in one word: AIPAC leveymg Sep 2015 #6
Hopefully FlatBaroque Sep 2015 #10
But, but AIPAC sponsored junkets to Israel are enlightening and educational Brother Buzz Sep 2015 #13
But what's with Dean? whathehell Sep 2015 #35
Just this week. First Dean, now Grayson... MattSh Sep 2015 #7
Why Dean? bigwillq Sep 2015 #11
maybe because he's friendly to a Clinton candidacy. WI_DEM Sep 2015 #14
Because this... MattSh Sep 2015 #18
Especially if Putin makes the demand for Alaska in a 3:00 a.m. phonecalll! nt tblue37 Sep 2015 #30
How dare he? bigwillq Sep 2015 #39
Grayson is the party's Donald Trump. LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! No use for him at all. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #8
Be sure to ask him about it in his next OP begging for DUer's money. JTFrog Sep 2015 #12
83 OPs in the past year... SidDithers Sep 2015 #25
Telling, yes? nt msanthrope Sep 2015 #36
He's the only person on DU that I have on ignore. madinmaryland Sep 2015 #33
AIPAC Doctor_J Sep 2015 #15
Grayson (D-FL) is a DUer. KamaAina Sep 2015 #19
So are we! FrodosPet Sep 2015 #20
Maybe. pintobean Sep 2015 #21
more likely that's an intern who copies and pastes fundraising emails geek tragedy Sep 2015 #23
I sincerely doubt that. I doubt he even knows what DU is. Oneironaut Sep 2015 #31
Yeah. I have him on ignore. Funny, but I don't have joeybee12 on ignore. madinmaryland Sep 2015 #34
Screw Alan "The Congressman with Guts" Grayson for his rightwing pandering and waffling. geek tragedy Sep 2015 #22
As I said in a reply upthread, I live in Florida, and will not be voting for anyone who belongs to djean111 Sep 2015 #27
Did you vote for Charlie Crist? KamaAina Sep 2015 #37
He was a lesser evil. djean111 Sep 2015 #38
Patrick Murphy is for the deal and I support him Dawson Leery Sep 2015 #29
it's not aipac. he himself just has similar views on this JI7 Sep 2015 #32
Can someone explain the 24 day notice before inspections? nt Logical Sep 2015 #40
 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
1. so much for "Congressman with guts"
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:17 AM
Sep 2015

I've always been a tad leery of Grayson, despite his usually progressive record. Seems to be way too much of a grandstander and showoff.

Anthony Weiner irked me in the same way, pre-meltdown.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
2. I'm wondering if there's huge pressure by voters in Florida area on the Iran bill?...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:18 AM
Sep 2015

DWS is working against Obama who appointed her in blocking an Iran resolution in the DNC likely to keep Florida voters happy too.

I'm also wondering if perhaps in addition to a large Jewish population, and fear of Iran as a source of terror, if they also have residual memories of being closest to Cuba during the Cuban Missile crisis that keeps them that much more concerned about nuclear weaponry as well.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
4. This did not prevent his primary opponent, Patrick Murphy, to endorse the deal, and Murphy is a
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 11:22 AM
Sep 2015

conservative Democrat.

Grayson is supposed to be a gutsy guy, but he is wavering and mouthing RW talking points. No excuse.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
26. IMO Murphy did not say yes until he was sure it was safe to do so.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 03:22 PM
Sep 2015

He and Nelson are both Third-Wayers.
Not happy with Grayson's stance on this, but I am not voting for any more members of the New Democrat Coalition.
I do live in Florida, and am not voting for Wasserman-Schultz or her little pack of DINOs any more.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
24. Bill Nelson is supporting it. Patrick Murphy who represents a conservative
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:57 PM
Sep 2015

district is supporting it.

Remember, this is the guy who calls himself "the Congressman with Guts."

Now he's cowering in fear of a tough vote?

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
18. Because this...
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:05 PM
Sep 2015

Howard Dean: The Case for Hillary Clinton - The Washington Post

These attacks are part of the process. If a candidate can’t take a hit from the New York Times or Fox News, how are they going to stand up to Putin when he demands Alaska back?

Complete story at - http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/09/01/howard-dean-the-case-for-hillary-clinton/

What's Dean trying to do? Out Republican the Republicans? None of the current Republican candidates has said anything quite as stupid as this... Shocked that Dean would go the fear-mongering route...

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
12. Be sure to ask him about it in his next OP begging for DUer's money.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 12:01 PM
Sep 2015

I imagine he would actually respond in those threads if he didn't find it beneath him.








FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
20. So are we!
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:51 PM
Sep 2015

And most of us reply to at least some of the replies to our posts. Not just come, beg money, ignore replies, then repeat biweekly.

The offshore hedge fund hypocrite does not impress me.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
23. more likely that's an intern who copies and pastes fundraising emails
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:56 PM
Sep 2015

into posts here then doesn't read anything again.

Oneironaut

(5,491 posts)
31. I sincerely doubt that. I doubt he even knows what DU is.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 05:31 PM
Sep 2015

The reality is that he probably has a group of interns who troll Democratic party forums for donations.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
22. Screw Alan "The Congressman with Guts" Grayson for his rightwing pandering and waffling.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 02:55 PM
Sep 2015

I didn't much care for him or Murphy going into this summer, but now I have a very strong preference for Murphy, who appears to be both more responsible and more electable.

Alan can go vacation with his money in the Cayman Islands.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
27. As I said in a reply upthread, I live in Florida, and will not be voting for anyone who belongs to
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 03:27 PM
Sep 2015

the New Democrat Coalition. Before they polished up their website, they were quite proud of eschewing ideology and working with the GOP.
Plus Murphy was a republican until 2012, when he switched just so he could run against Allan West. Not a change of heart, by any means. He too is being polished up as a shiny new liberal, but I will not vote for DINOs anymore.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Grayson (D-FL) is hugely ...