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kpete

(71,985 posts)
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 06:58 PM Sep 2015

"The Bully Proves My Point": Kareem updates on Trump's scrawled response to his WaPo opinion piece.

Here’s how Donald Trump responded to my essay about him
The bully proves my point.

By Kareem Abdul-Jabbar September 2 at 4:56 PM

.................

This morning, an essay of mine was published titled, “This is the Difference Between Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/09/02/kareem-abdul-jabbar-this-is-the-difference-between-donald-trump-and-bernie-sanders/ Trump’s response to my piece is the best, though inelegant, support for my claims. Here again, he attacks a journalist who disagrees with him, not by disputing the points made but by hurling schoolyard insults such as “nobody likes you.” Look behind the nasty invective and you find an assault on the Constitution in the effort to silence the press through intimidation. The full text is below.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=1484


https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/09/02/heres-how-donald-trump-responded-to-my-essay-about-him/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/09/02/kareem-abdul-jabbar-this-is-the-difference-between-donald-trump-and-bernie-sanders/

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"The Bully Proves My Point": Kareem updates on Trump's scrawled response to his WaPo opinion piece. (Original Post) kpete Sep 2015 OP
Trump proved Kareem's point quite well. /nt think Sep 2015 #1
he has someone search for his name in the media. someone yellow lined his name roguevalley Sep 2015 #20
You're Probably right.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #37
Jeez, I'm getting nauseous looking at that. Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #50
Great article Kareem. Thank you. I particularly was impressed with the fact that although politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2015 #24
What does the World Wildlife Fund have to do with this? svpadgham Sep 2015 #29
I think he means the Wiscasset, Waterville and Farmington Railway Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2015 #38
How about the (WWF) World Wrestling Federation? politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2015 #49
That company no longer exists under that name. svpadgham Sep 2015 #51
I don't believe that's true. JackRiddler Sep 2015 #58
"I don't know what the hell they're angry about" awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #43
Only a percentage of the white males adigal Sep 2015 #52
True... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #54
TRump is a piece of shit, but he is just giving the teaparty moron assholes what they want. randys1 Sep 2015 #2
yes - they are junkies KT2000 Sep 2015 #19
Exactly! hamsterjill Sep 2015 #30
Trump is so childish Beaverhausen Sep 2015 #3
Kareem: still posterizing people. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2015 #4
trumps attacks aren't even good. its like he never got out of JI7 Sep 2015 #5
this is amazing. n/t retrowire Sep 2015 #6
That there are people who want this man abelenkpe Sep 2015 #7
Shameful and scary. Delmette Sep 2015 #14
Made me think of this..... montana_hazeleyes Sep 2015 #48
Right on time NBachers Sep 2015 #8
And so the media summer ratings driven fling with Fascist Trump ends not with a bang, but the whimper of a cowardly lion. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #9
Has anyone checked Donald's meds lately? Ford_Prefect Sep 2015 #10
I hope to gawd that Donald's signature is actually . . . DrBulldog Sep 2015 #11
haha.... dhill926 Sep 2015 #28
Remember, the horrible sad thing about our country is . . . DrBulldog Sep 2015 #12
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for PRESIDENT! NOW! HuckleB Sep 2015 #13
I like him for the job he's got now: Brother Buzz Sep 2015 #15
God knows, after showing our tRump to the world.... daleanime Sep 2015 #21
I'm surprised trumped stop short matt819 Sep 2015 #16
"Go back to Univision." Indydem Sep 2015 #23
Who the heck is "Auunh Nuuuyd"? IDemo Sep 2015 #17
This can mean only one thing: Still In Wisconsin Sep 2015 #18
Well, that was almost totally predictable. surrealAmerican Sep 2015 #22
Here's Jimmy Fallon's impression lovemydog Sep 2015 #25
Trump is going to be on Fallon's show on the premiere date of Stephen Colbert's show virtualobserver Sep 2015 #26
We'll all be watching Colbert's new show. It's gonna be good. YOHABLO Sep 2015 #35
The Buffoon writes. rofl. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2015 #27
tivi gnewz makes you stooped. tRUMP has been pampered way too long. pansypoo53219 Sep 2015 #31
That does it--now I have to check out Kareem's books! eom Maeve Sep 2015 #32
Seriously. He's a great writer. merrily Sep 2015 #42
Accomplishments........................ turbinetree Sep 2015 #33
That Guardian link doesn't work red dog 1 Sep 2015 #56
See if this works --------------if not I will get.............. turbinetree Sep 2015 #61
Any local handwriting analysts care to check in at this point? Aldo Leopold Sep 2015 #34
Trump's problem: Kareem knows exactly what must be done to make America great again jmowreader Sep 2015 #36
I Want To Hear...... cynzke Sep 2015 #39
Great point, but that's not Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2015 #40
Ha! You may have to explain that for DUers spooky3 Sep 2015 #62
Surely, it should be mandatory viewing. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2015 #63
Don't call me Shirley! spooky3 Sep 2015 #64
I've read many article about Sanders. The two best by far, IMO, were Jabbar's and one by Rima Regas. merrily Sep 2015 #41
My dad says awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #44
Novice handwriting analysis underpants Sep 2015 #45
His signature runs on like his mouth. He thinks in scribbles. Monk06 Sep 2015 #46
imagine Trump as president Skittles Sep 2015 #47
What a stupid, schoolyard response. No one likes you??? WTF???? adigal Sep 2015 #53
"after the RNC gets rid of him? red dog 1 Sep 2015 #55
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Sep 2015 #57
Trump has on occasion bragged about his IQ tavernier Sep 2015 #59
Kareem is keeping it classy, while trump is wallowing in the sewers. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #60

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
20. he has someone search for his name in the media. someone yellow lined his name
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:40 PM
Sep 2015

Explains his drunk tweets

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
37. You're Probably right....
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 01:40 AM
Sep 2015

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politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
24. Great article Kareem. Thank you. I particularly was impressed with the fact that although
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 10:09 PM
Sep 2015

you didn't graduate from the Wharton School of Business, you were able to complete a coherent thought without changing directions 10 times in the process. You didn't have to brag about your accomplishments, every other half sentence, and you didn't have to put someone else down in order to make yourself look good.

I get that Trump supporters are angry. I don't know what the hell they're angry about. They were the ones who bought the B.S. that their party was shoveling. So now they want someone who doesn't need a teleprompter. Well Trump's word salad speech makes Sarah Palin sound like the greatest orator of all time.

So Trump wants to turn what once was the greatest deliberative body in the world, and our democratic process into the WWF. Because if he succeeds in securing the GOP's nomination for the highest office in the land by being a boorish, arrogant bully, he will certainly spawn a next generation of boorish, arrogant bullies. This is a time when our nation needs solutions to what ales America; not some pampered frat boy who needs a new project to work on.

I heard someone today on TV say that Trump had two immigrant wives and four anchor babies of his own. Isn't it a shame how someone whose been given so much is blinded by his own stupidity. Or maybe he's just playing us.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
38. I think he means the Wiscasset, Waterville and Farmington Railway
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 06:21 AM
Sep 2015

Or perhaps the Australian dockworkers union, formerly known as the Waterside Workers' Federation.

svpadgham

(670 posts)
51. That company no longer exists under that name.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 05:49 PM
Sep 2015

They became WWE after the World Wildlife Fund sued over the letters.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
58. I don't believe that's true.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 06:24 PM
Sep 2015

They became WWE prior to their IPO. They thought it prudent to acknowledge the actual nature of the business. The "entertainment" is an implicit admission that it's not really real.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
43. "I don't know what the hell they're angry about"
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 08:33 PM
Sep 2015

I do- the white male is becoming, due to demographics, becoming less and less politically powerful by the day. They HATE that, and know one day some shit is going to come back and bite them in the ass. Hell, we even have a black man in the White House now. This white male is laughing his ass off at them.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
52. Only a percentage of the white males
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 05:53 PM
Sep 2015

A large percentage, yes, but not all. Not my flaming liberal/socialist for years husband.

And I'm 53, and I hope I'm alive the day that whites are no longer the majority in this country. Cause we haven't done a very good job at being the majority.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
54. True...
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 06:02 PM
Sep 2015

I wasn't totally clear, and hoped my use of "they" would convey what was going on in my head. I used to be one of them, but I grew the hell up. Things like having a gay sister, a Mexican American wife, and being (at the time) agnostic (at best) probably helped. During the run up to the Iraqui war I really started questioning everything I thought I believed, and realized most of it was built on bullshit and paranoia

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. TRump is a piece of shit, but he is just giving the teaparty moron assholes what they want.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:04 PM
Sep 2015

Teaparty assholes need to hear hate on a daily basis.

KT2000

(20,576 posts)
19. yes - they are junkies
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:39 PM
Sep 2015

they are hooked on the adrenaline of hate. It is what they need to feel alive. I hate to tell them what that is doing to their bodies.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
30. Exactly!
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:43 PM
Sep 2015

They are vicariously living through his bullying someone. It's what they all secretly wish they had the guts to do. No thoughts about facts, intelligence, honest debate, compassion, or humility. They just wanna be tough!

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
4. Kareem: still posterizing people.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:09 PM
Sep 2015

A debate between Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Donald Trump would be only slightly more competitive than a game of one-on-one...and have the same outcome.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. And so the media summer ratings driven fling with Fascist Trump ends not with a bang, but the whimper of a cowardly lion.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:17 PM
Sep 2015

That Kareem is the one to initiate the inevitable take down of Trump is doubly sweet...next up will be another fascist in the lineup of 17...that is all the GOP has to offer, numerical superiority with an abundance of fascists all in a row.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
12. Remember, the horrible sad thing about our country is . . .
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:24 PM
Sep 2015

. . . that there are probably at least 50,000,000 Americans who would vote to put this lunatic into the White House.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
13. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar for PRESIDENT! NOW!
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:25 PM
Sep 2015

Don't get me wrong. Bernie is fine, but I think Kareem is better. Period.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
16. I'm surprised trumped stop short
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:33 PM
Sep 2015

Of telling Kareem to go back home, like he did to American citizen Jorge Ramos. Kareem and I grew up in the same neighborhood, though he's a few years older.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
18. This can mean only one thing:
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:34 PM
Sep 2015

Tomorrow Scott Walker will call Wilt Chamberlain a "stupid poopie pants" and Chris Christie will call Bill Russel a "loser who gets pushed down at recess."

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
22. Well, that was almost totally predictable.
Wed Sep 2, 2015, 09:54 PM
Sep 2015

I was expecting a nasty tweet, rather than a hand-written note.

One problem with Mr.Trump (and it is hardly the biggest problem) is that he's so easily manipulated.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
33. Accomplishments........................
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 04:06 PM
Sep 2015

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (born Ferdinand Lewis Alcindor, Jr. ; April 16, 1947)
I will forgive him for being a Los Angeles Laker (me-----------Boston Celtics)

Hall of Fame basketball center Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is the NBA's all-time leading scorer. He won six NBA titles, five with the Los Angeles Lakers, over 20 years.

Donald Trump accomplishments

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/19/donald-trumps-eminent-domain-nearly-cost-widow-houseupm

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/21-questions-trump-kickbacks-busting-unions-mob-corporate-welfare


Both of there names or on this list click on the name and see why they got a deferment:

http://www.nndb.com/event/806/000140386/

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
36. Trump's problem: Kareem knows exactly what must be done to make America great again
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 12:16 AM
Sep 2015

Trump's saving grace is it's a federal offense to build a functional guillotine.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
39. I Want To Hear......
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 08:39 AM
Sep 2015

From some writing experts. What does this example say about DT. It would be interesting to say the least. Not even sure this is actually a hand written note. It seems too precise. It could be computer scripted. If so, this would be deceptive. Faking a handwritten note. It is a bizarre way to respond. Can't respond normally, instead crafts this personal attack over the top of the editorial for dramatic effect. Sounds more like a teenage girl, than a mature, corporate business leader.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
40. Great point, but that's not Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 11:08 AM
Sep 2015

That's Roger Murdock. He's a co-pilot for the airlines.



In all seriousness, good on him. Smart guy.

Oh, and Donald Trump's still a giant douchebag without an original thought in his head.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
41. I've read many article about Sanders. The two best by far, IMO, were Jabbar's and one by Rima Regas.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 12:39 PM
Sep 2015
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-bias-mainstream-media-undermines-sanders-every-turn


Meanwhile, since Trump is the Republican frontrunner, I find it comforting that he at least prints neatly. Maybe, by next year, he'll even be able to master cursive.

Song: The Only One is Trump. (Know what I mean?)

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-bias-mainstream-media-undermines-sanders-every-turn

underpants

(182,773 posts)
45. Novice handwriting analysis
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 01:00 AM
Sep 2015

Writes in all caps. I do too. It's GREAT!

Likes big T's. D's are so big. This could explain "The Donald"

Best Wishes - that is a weird B but my daughter had trouble with d's and b's.

I would never have figured that that signature represented his name.


BTW - Kareem was not well liked by the press or his teammates when he was retiring. Magic Johnson tried to raise money in the locker room to buy Kareem a Rolls and ..... He ended up paying for it himself. Kareem had a fit when not considered for coaching 3+ years ago. The NBA takes care of career guys but apparently not Kareem.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
53. What a stupid, schoolyard response. No one likes you??? WTF????
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 05:55 PM
Sep 2015

I think Trump is insane. I can't wait until he breaks his "pledge" to not run 3rd party. You all know he won't be able to resist after the RNC gets rid of him.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
55. "after the RNC gets rid of him?
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 05:44 PM
Sep 2015

How is that even possible?

He now beats everyone in the polls, even HRC.

tavernier

(12,380 posts)
59. Trump has on occasion bragged about his IQ
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 07:07 PM
Sep 2015

being in the genius range. I know a number of people who are indeed exceptionally gifted with a high intelligence, and one truly feels when conversing with them, a certain exhilaration just to keep up with their thoughts and observations.

Never once have I experienced this while listening to Trump's speeches. If anything, I am amazed at how low his level of maturity seems to be, almost as though his emotional growth had been severely stilted at some age.

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