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Kim Davis is a Democrat! (Original Post) ButterflyBlood Sep 2015 OP
She's still a bigoted hypocrite Bluzmann57 Sep 2015 #1
Alleged democrat? yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #7
'We' don't own anything in this matter. Kingofalldems Sep 2015 #48
In eastern Ky Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2015 #2
Kentucky elected Democrat means slightly left of Attilla the Hun. Religious extremism is pandemic. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #9
Not necessarily true. Beshear is too conservative for my taste but nothing out of line with other TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #28
Gerrymandered districts means a Democrat or two, of course, but there should be many more! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #30
I'm personally big on it but the party has been silent as a tomb on it that I'm aware of since the TheKentuckian Sep 2015 #34
it makes no difference at all what party she affiliates with. spanone Sep 2015 #3
I think everyone already knew that. It's not like the media has been hiding the fact. stopbush Sep 2015 #4
Many southerners are, for purely historical reasons jberryhill Sep 2015 #5
I shake my head!! riversedge Sep 2015 #11
When that video made the rounds in 2008... jberryhill Sep 2015 #12
i never saw it and rather riversedge Sep 2015 #20
Being a registered Democrat doesn't mean you're not a bigot. Solly Mack Sep 2015 #6
Yep, I know some democrats that are totally bigots. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2015 #26
Meet the Dixiecrats. A sad holdover from the 1950s. Rex Sep 2015 #8
Every elected official in her county is a Democrat, except the Jailer. Hehe. mnhtnbb Sep 2015 #10
There are bigots on this side of the aisle, too. Some even post here. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #13
Her donations will drop off if that gets around. lpbk2713 Sep 2015 #14
Maybe it was the only way this republican could win a local office in B Calm Sep 2015 #15
The teabagger Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke runs as a Democrat, too. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #17
It happens a lot in local elections. B Calm Sep 2015 #19
yuk. He is a piece of crap! riversedge Sep 2015 #22
Crap has asked you to cease and desist from comparing that fuckhead to it. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #23
Chuckle. riversedge Sep 2015 #25
there are more registered democrats in Kentucky but its mostly local JI7 Sep 2015 #16
HEY!! I can not see this woman voting for Hillary or Bernie..at all! yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #18
In name only (nt) LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #21
As I've said before, 53-38 D registration, 38-60 D voting whatthehey Sep 2015 #24
Yes. And the difference between us and Republicans Matariki Sep 2015 #27
Any politician who has ever held an anti gay marriage stance is unelectable AngryAmish Sep 2015 #29
Obama is unelectable? former9thward Sep 2015 #43
that is one big ass tent we've got... dhill926 Sep 2015 #31
Democrat In Name Only. nt madinmaryland Sep 2015 #32
Her actions show otherwise rockfordfile Sep 2015 #33
No, but I'll bet she votes Republican Warpy Sep 2015 #35
In Appalachia, Democrat means something very different. phleshdef Sep 2015 #36
I'm a west coast guy and don't understand Kilgore Sep 2015 #38
Well its part of the Bible belt. phleshdef Sep 2015 #42
It is common here in NC too for many reasons Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #45
Thanks for explanation Kilgore Sep 2015 #47
There is such a thing as a conservative democrat. Jester Messiah Sep 2015 #37
Fred Phelps was a Democrat. blogslut Sep 2015 #39
Not one I would have anything to do with hobbit709 Sep 2015 #40
If she doesn't understand the difference between moondust Sep 2015 #41
I don't care what she is. Texasgal Sep 2015 #44
So what? tabasco Sep 2015 #46

Bluzmann57

(12,336 posts)
1. She's still a bigoted hypocrite
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 05:59 PM
Sep 2015

But I imagine fox noise will have a field day with the fact she's an alleged Democrat.
As far as an answer to your question- One can only hope so.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
7. Alleged democrat?
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:03 PM
Sep 2015

How does that work? She was voted in a red state as a democratic winner. Hardly anything alleged in that. We got screwed on this one. We own it. Horrible as it is.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
28. Not necessarily true. Beshear is too conservative for my taste but nothing out of line with other
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:52 PM
Sep 2015

"centrist" types.

Same goes for Conway who is likely to succeed him. My Congressman, John Yarmuth is a pretty damn good liberal not even of the "centrist" variety but actually a pretty strong progressive that seldom if ever pisses me off with a cruddy vote and I'm fairly unforgiving of conservatism even the corporate kind.

Some fit your description like this fool but if you can stomach the Turd Way then our Democratic statewide elected officials should be just dandy.

She is likely a relic from the not too distant time that essentially only Democrats could get elected in the state and the entire game was the primary regardless of ideology.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
30. Gerrymandered districts means a Democrat or two, of course, but there should be many more!
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:54 PM
Sep 2015

Whatever happened to proportional representation or did that go out with limited and open campaign donations?

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
34. I'm personally big on it but the party has been silent as a tomb on it that I'm aware of since the
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:00 PM
Sep 2015

primary wrapped up in 2008. Sort of like doing something about the Republican owned voting machines became fringe talk.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
4. I think everyone already knew that. It's not like the media has been hiding the fact.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:01 PM
Sep 2015

The salient point is where her being a D comes in her set of priorities.

Obviously, her #1 priority is to treat make believe (the Buy-bull, Xianity) like it's a fact that trumps reality (er, reality), which means that being a Xian trumps all. Being a D? I'm guessing it's way down the list. She most likely ran for the office as a D because that's what her mom was when she held the office for years and it made political sense to run as a D herself.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. Many southerners are, for purely historical reasons
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:02 PM
Sep 2015

Stick around the 3:08 mark, and see who this person supports for president:

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. When that video made the rounds in 2008...
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:27 PM
Sep 2015

A lot of people watched some of it and said things like "typical Republican".

She's not a Republican at all.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
6. Being a registered Democrat doesn't mean you're not a bigot.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:02 PM
Sep 2015

That fact shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.


Disappointing, yes. Surprising, no.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
8. Meet the Dixiecrats. A sad holdover from the 1950s.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:05 PM
Sep 2015

I am sorry you have to find out this way that some Dems are nothing more than DINOs.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
15. Maybe it was the only way this republican could win a local office in
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:31 PM
Sep 2015

a strong democratic county. . .

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
17. The teabagger Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke runs as a Democrat, too.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:34 PM
Sep 2015

But every position he takes and every word he says is the polar opposite of our party.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
16. there are more registered democrats in Kentucky but its mostly local
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:33 PM
Sep 2015

Politics where dems are the old southern conservative types

I believe most are registered indie and 2nd highest is dems and reps 3rd.



yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
18. HEY!! I can not see this woman voting for Hillary or Bernie..at all!
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:36 PM
Sep 2015

Bet she votes for Huckabee or RAND PAUL.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
24. As I've said before, 53-38 D registration, 38-60 D voting
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:45 PM
Sep 2015

Which means that approximately 30% (15/53) of KY Democrats are Republican voters, and they are heavily, massively, weighted to this region and this religiosity. A Louisville area Dem is generally a Dem. East of Lexington? Toss a coin.

Registration here is often a familial tradition especially among the political set, not a staked place on the ideological spectrum.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
27. Yes. And the difference between us and Republicans
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:51 PM
Sep 2015

is that we condemn asshat bigots even if they happen to have a 'D' behind their name. Instead of doubling down and circling the wagons.

It's called Integrity.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
29. Any politician who has ever held an anti gay marriage stance is unelectable
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:54 PM
Sep 2015

Should never even be allowed in a primary. This is 2015, folks.

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
33. Her actions show otherwise
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:56 PM
Sep 2015

You can say anything but this bigots actions show otherwise. Just a typical conservative republican extremist.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
35. No, but I'll bet she votes Republican
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:05 PM
Sep 2015

Both my parents voted the opposite of the parties they were registered in. A lot of people out there are "legacy" registrants, following their parents and the larger culture into one party or another.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
36. In Appalachia, Democrat means something very different.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:10 PM
Sep 2015

I grew up in Southern WV and I can attest to that.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
38. I'm a west coast guy and don't understand
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:54 PM
Sep 2015

Not trying to bait you, its just that I have heard that comment before and don't know what it means.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
42. Well its part of the Bible belt.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 08:07 PM
Sep 2015

So you have a lot of social Conservatives... at the same time, its coal country, which means theres a deep regard for Unions. So you have a lot of Democrats in Appalachia that are Democrats because of the history of the Democratic party supporting the UMWA and such.

Also, you are talking about a region with a lot of rampant poverty... social safety nets are life's blood in some area.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
45. It is common here in NC too for many reasons
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 09:32 PM
Sep 2015

After the Civil War the democratic party had a lock hold on every level of government. That has long held, as have family traditions.

The Democrats of old and the GOP have swapped political sides of the spectrum, but in local areas the local party registrations and powers haven't made than swap in many cases. Voters would vote for the R in national elections but keep voting D in state and local.

Until recently, in the last 2 decades and some places much later, in NC you had to be registered as a Democrat to get any kind of state and most local municipal jobs. It was an open secret if you wanted to be a State Trooper or DMV law enforcement you had best be a registered Democrat. In fact the DMV enforcement was totally reorganized and put as a part of the Highway Patrol around 2000 after a big scandal broke that started with a small town police chief who liked to wear diapers and dress as a baby for sexual pleasure, and when he got in trouble her rolled over and exposed a whole "pay for play" mess within the agency he had just left where senior officers were telling the officers below them political donations were watched and helped gain promotions. Why was it like that? Because that is how it always was, since the 1870's, and the folks running things in the 80's and 90's were the old racists dixiecrats from the 1950's and 1960's still clinging to their good old boy network.

My dad was told when he moved to an area where there were union textile plants and non-union that if he wanted to be hired and kept on in a union shop he had best have a D by his name when they looked. He still is to this day but votes all over the map. Unions are far weaker here than the UMW were in WV at their heyday so I can imagine that legacy lives on.

Hell, look at NC's history. In 1980 the voters here went for Reagan, and re-elected the mega-bigot Jesse Helms, but in a landslide re-elected a Democrat Governor and General Assembly.

Southern Dems are... complicated. As is the history of the party at state and especially local levels.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
47. Thanks for explanation
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 10:16 PM
Sep 2015

Makes me glad I live in Washington state where you just register to vote. No affiliation questions are asked, and all elections are open.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
37. There is such a thing as a conservative democrat.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:23 PM
Sep 2015

I guess some people didn't get the memo about the Southern Strategy.

blogslut

(37,999 posts)
39. Fred Phelps was a Democrat.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 07:57 PM
Sep 2015

People can claim to be anything. It's what they do that tells you who they are.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
41. If she doesn't understand the difference between
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 08:07 PM
Sep 2015

"God's house" and "Caesar's house," I wouldn't expect too much of her when it comes to differentiating between political parties.

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
44. I don't care what she is.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 08:39 PM
Sep 2015

What she is doing is wrong and against basic civil rights... to me that's worse than simply breaking the law!

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