In Case You Hadn’t Noticed Yet, The Koch Brothers Are Losing The Republican Primary

[DonViejo]

By: Keith Brekhus
Thursday, September, 3rd, 2015, 7:18 pm

A Monmouth University poll released on September 3rd, confirms that Donald Trump is running away with the GOP race, and that retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson is currently in second place. While it is easy to recognize that this mean Republican voters are falling in love with fringe candidates whose political views are bordering on comically absurd, it also reveals another emerging truth of the 2016 campaign. The billionaire Koch brothers are losing the Republican primaries, and losing badly.

Consider this. In the Monmouth survey, Self-funding billionaire Donald Trump polled 30 percent. Ben Carson, who is heavily reliant on small dollar donors, polled 18 percent. None of the Koch brothers’ favorite candidates could manage better than single digits.

In early August, the Koch brothers invited five candidates — Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Carly Fiorina — to a special confab in a luxury California hotel. There the candidates were given the opportunity to make their case in front of the Kochs and other billionaires, and to grovel for their financial support.

Those five candidates are polling just 28 percent total, if you add them all together to create one Koch puppet “super candidate”. Trump alone beats Bush, Walker, Cruz, Rubio and Fiorina combined!

Worst of all for the Kochs, the winner of the post-confab wealthy donor straw poll, Scott Walker, is faring the poorest of the five Koch friendly candidates, mustering an anemic 3 percent national support in the latest Monmouth poll.

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http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/03/case-noticed-yet-koch-brothers-losing-republican-primary.html

[lonestarnot]

1. So soon too; they didn't get to spend enough dough to just throw in the towel yet.

I would enjoy seeing more dough spending!

[Bluenorthwest]

8. They took their stack and left Oregon early last election, they tried to push a Senate candidate

against Jeff Merkley, the out of State money did not help and in fact it hurt the candidate as did all of their nasty ass commercials. They gave up very early, their candidate languished and eventually lost by 20 percent.

[lonestarnot]

11. Tee hee. Most for my entertainment dollar right there!

[Mass]

2. Ok, but is this a good thing? Why should we be cheering in a fight between the pest and the cholera?

[ryan_cats]

3. The Koch brothers are terrible

The Koch brothers are terrible.

How's Soros doing?

[peacebird]

4. : )

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|com/watch?v=MbykzqJ6ens|

[randome]

5. Trump and the Koch Brothers are proof that wealth does not equal brains.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[treestar]

6. They have a lot more money than Trump does though

in the end, one man is probably not rich enough and Trump would have to raise money.

[Human101948]

7. Trump has always been an advocate of using OPM....

Other People's Money...

The fastest and surest way make money these days is by getting your hands on other people’s money — and then putting it to work for you.

It’s really that simple.

Trump borrowed billions from bankers and used the money to put up buildings like Trump Tower and open casinos like the Taj Mahal. In his books, Trump says that by the early 1990s he owed more than $9 billion.

When things turned sour his companies filed for bankruptcy. Twice. The lenders had to eat the losses.

Too bad. What a bunch of losers!

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-donald-trump-is-rich-and-youre-not-2015-07-27

[CajunBlazer]

9. Actually Trump companies have filed for bankruptcy 4 times (n/t)

[Human101948]

12. Further down in the article I cited is how Trump turns that into a good thing...

He then raised more money from bankers, bondholders and even stockholders along the way. On two more occasions his companies filed for bankruptcy. Lenders and investors got hosed.

“Out of hundreds of deals & transactions, I have used the bankruptcy laws a few times to make deals better,” he said recently on Twitter. “Nothing personal, just business… It’s a very effective & commonly used business tool.”

No kidding.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-donald-trump-is-rich-and-youre-not-2015-07-27

[CajunBlazer]

17. I would be richer also if I had no Integrity (n/t)

[treestar]

13. OPM is one conservatives love to expound on

yet they never look at it that way - only for social services. Yet they have no problem with the likes of Trump taking their money.

[Human101948]

14. LBJ had it pegged...

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
~
LYNDON B. JOHNSON, 1960, remark to Bill Moyers, "What a Real President Was Like," Washington Post, 13 November 1988

[treestar]

15. Yes, better put than I could

but talking to conservatives I always did get the sense they needed someone to be better than, someone to look down on.

[CajunBlazer]

10. You gotda love it!

Republicans spending millions to to tear each other down.

You gotda love it!

[riderinthestorm]

16. I bet they don't see this the way we do. Their ideas are resonating with 28% of America

They've bought these five politicians who have been out there selling the Koch Bros despicable positions.

And they've managed to get 28% of Americans to agree.

I think this is the split in the Republican Party - this is the 25% that stuck with GW Bush and I believe they are the rump that's left of the traditional Republican Party.

The "new" 30% that's attracted to Trump is a new party imo. It's populist. It's not necessarily worried about God and social issues like abortion.

This is the split writ large. That the Koch Brothers control 25 - 28% of the message in the US is probably seen as a win by them even if they don't win control of the Presidency. They're transnational anyway.