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raccoon

(31,105 posts)
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 06:01 AM Sep 2015

Why all the stink about President Obama changing the name of Mt. McKinley to Denali?


In the first place, the Native Americans were there millenia before Europeans.

In the Second place, did anybody make a stink about changing the name of
Cape Canaveral to Cape Kennedy and then back to Cape Canaveral? I don't recall
it, but that was a less media-saturated time.
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Why all the stink about President Obama changing the name of Mt. McKinley to Denali? (Original Post) raccoon Sep 2015 OP
Obama Derangement Syndrome... n/t Ghost in the Machine Sep 2015 #1
Obama could cure cancer and the rightwingnuts would all be blathering beac Sep 2015 #24
Yep shenmue Sep 2015 #26
They'd blame him for the newly-unemployed in the medical field. SeattleVet Sep 2015 #34
Sounds about right to me! n/t Ghost in the Machine Sep 2015 #36
August, not much to talk about... Alaska had been pushing it for decades 4139 Sep 2015 #2
Denali sounds like, madokie Sep 2015 #3
Hadn't you heard TexasProgresive Sep 2015 #8
Quick answer madokie Sep 2015 #9
It's not exactly a secret here pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #10
I was hoping no one noticed madokie Sep 2015 #11
Don't worry, just keep on being who you are. n/t TexasProgresive Sep 2015 #13
I am sure it has nothing to do with him being an African American... cough cough still_one Sep 2015 #4
If Obama said the sky is blue Danascot Sep 2015 #5
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2015 #14
They would probably call for a special session to ... SeattleVet Sep 2015 #35
People got upset when Pluto was no lomger called a planet. AngryAmish Sep 2015 #6
Pluto is a not a black man, is it? It is the racists that are upset because they are racists. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #20
It's all about something called "strategic whining" -- which the GOP has mastered cloudythescribbler Sep 2015 #7
Josef Goebbels would smile on them Cyrano Sep 2015 #15
Where's the confederate flag that used to fly on Mount McKleiny? struggle4progress Sep 2015 #12
He is everything the right wing hates, TNNurse Sep 2015 #16
I've heard he has unusually dark skin for a President, and some people find that disorienting. nt bemildred Sep 2015 #17
because President Obama did it. no other reason. spanone Sep 2015 #18
Becaus the county clerk refused to issue the papers for it jberryhill Sep 2015 #19
Remarkably, ex-half-term governor Sarah Palin avoided the pitfall truebluegreen Sep 2015 #21
Could PBO change the name of Reagan National Airport Ms. Yertle Sep 2015 #22
You really aren't promoting the change of all erstwhile N.A. names BACK to them, are you? WinkyDink Sep 2015 #23
Hadn't thought of that, but I could see an argument for it. OTOH, many raccoon Sep 2015 #25
Yes, okay. WinkyDink Sep 2015 #30
Here in Washington State, we have many, many place names that are N.A. Aristus Sep 2015 #27
Because Obama. N/t zappaman Sep 2015 #28
Because madamesilverspurs Sep 2015 #29
A black man gave back a Native American name to a landmark LadyHawkAZ Sep 2015 #31
As long as.... odd_duck Sep 2015 #32
Who cares? He's done it again. Make the change and walk away lunatica Sep 2015 #33

beac

(9,992 posts)
24. Obama could cure cancer and the rightwingnuts would all be blathering
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 09:55 AM
Sep 2015

"Cancer has been the bedrock of our medical ailments since Jesus walked with the dinosaurs. How DARE he????"

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
34. They'd blame him for the newly-unemployed in the medical field.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 02:08 PM
Sep 2015

How *dare* he put those researchers and doctors out of business!

TexasProgresive

(12,156 posts)
8. Hadn't you heard
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 06:43 AM
Sep 2015

Stupid is as stupid does Do these ijitits every even think before that let this shit come out of their mouths?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
9. Quick answer
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 06:53 AM
Sep 2015

NO, screamed at the top of my lungs.
Now my wife knows I'm nuts for sure
Hell, I've known it for years

madokie

(51,076 posts)
11. I was hoping no one noticed
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 07:04 AM
Sep 2015

knowing full well everyone does though.
Oh well, what the fuck, over. Been a while since I used those words in that order

OT: would you have ever believed 45 years ago that we'd still be here fighting some of the same fights we thought we won all those years ago. I sure didn't. I thought we'd be on to bigger and better battles. At least we haven't been held down and still have some fight left in us

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
35. They would probably call for a special session to ...
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 02:09 PM
Sep 2015

redefine 'blue'.

Just so they could say that he was wrong.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
20. Pluto is a not a black man, is it? It is the racists that are upset because they are racists.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 08:43 AM
Sep 2015

There has been a massive propaganda campaign, repeating a lie relentlessly - Obama is an "other"- until a large segment of the public, to wit, racists, believe it and so can confirm and justify their racism.

In other words the reason for the very limited numbers of very outraged and only RW folks is the usual simple explanation - racism gone wild and encouraged by the media.

cloudythescribbler

(2,586 posts)
7. It's all about something called "strategic whining" -- which the GOP has mastered
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 06:36 AM
Sep 2015

No doubt they would do the same when Clinton was president. The point is to whine about anything and everything, sometimes shifting to opposite positions (especially on foreign policy issues where the details aren't as closely followed by the general public); it is in general accelerating over time and indeed somewhat increased by Obama's race. But remember how ridiculous the GOP was during the Clinton years? That's a pretty high base line. The trick of strategic whining is that you target something and continue to act out your talking points no matter what the facts are (eg Planned Parenthood). By proceeding as if they were proven guilty rather than innocent you can gain a similar effect to having the facts on your side in a normally functioning democracy. It also implies throwing whatever you can at the wall and seeing what sticks (eg Benghazi). The notion that people anywhere give a crap about President McKinley is ludicrous, but just hearing swarms of politicians and political operatives and sympathetic media complaining about how Ohio (a swing state) has been slighted, well the idea of Ohio pride being slighted sinks in, especially precisely among a public that is so vague about their anger that large numbers of them are ready to support Donald Trump

It's a sign of the times that isn't going away anytime soon

struggle4progress

(118,236 posts)
12. Where's the confederate flag that used to fly on Mount McKleiny?
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 07:05 AM
Sep 2015

Really, nobody would object if Obama went back home to Kenya and gave Swahili names like Denali to Maui or some other mountain there -- but proud Alaskans like Senator Boehner are understandably offended when Obama disrespects our heritage in this way

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
16. He is everything the right wing hates,
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 07:48 AM
Sep 2015

He is smart. He is educated. He is tall and fit. He has a funny name, it doesn't sound "Merican".

Oh, yes, he is Black and a Democrat.

Please understand that when you use irony and sarcasm, the trolls take it literally.....they really do not think that well.

This "Christian Nation"that they speak of is certainly a hateful one.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
21. Remarkably, ex-half-term governor Sarah Palin avoided the pitfall
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 08:51 AM
Sep 2015

but, hilariously, her daughter did not. "I don't know anybody who calls it Denali."

I don't know a single Alaskan, or even anyone who's ever been there, who did not.

Ms. Yertle

(466 posts)
22. Could PBO change the name of Reagan National Airport
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 09:13 AM
Sep 2015

back to Washington National? Been wondering about that . . .

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
23. You really aren't promoting the change of all erstwhile N.A. names BACK to them, are you?
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 09:40 AM
Sep 2015

Yes? No?


raccoon

(31,105 posts)
25. Hadn't thought of that, but I could see an argument for it. OTOH, many
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 11:08 AM
Sep 2015

Native American names are hard for English-speakers to pronounce.

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
27. Here in Washington State, we have many, many place names that are N.A.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 11:45 AM
Sep 2015

Snoqualmie, Snohomish, Skykomish, Suquamish, Duwamish, Toppenish, Quilayute, Puyallup ( where I live), Tacoma (which was originally Tahoma, and Mt. Rainier's first name), etc, etc, etc.

It's something that we're used to. If President Obama, or any other President in the future, wants to change European names, like Rainier or Puget, back to the original names, most people around here would be cool with that.

madamesilverspurs

(15,799 posts)
29. Because
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 12:53 PM
Sep 2015

Republicans believe that the name HAS to be Reagan. Hell, they've splattered his name over so much stuff it's impossible to get away from it. It shouldn't be Denali, it should be Mt. Reagan. For that matter, EVERY mountain should have that name. And every river, every highway, every ship, every school, every government building....................

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
31. A black man gave back a Native American name to a landmark
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 01:18 PM
Sep 2015

previously renamed by whites for a white. EOM

odd_duck

(107 posts)
32. As long as....
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 01:23 PM
Sep 2015

a President has a legal right to do it, who am I to complain.
Of course, Presidents have been naming Czars to his Cabinet since what, Ray-Gun??
But we all know how that went when PBO did it.........

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
33. Who cares? He's done it again. Make the change and walk away
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 01:29 PM
Sep 2015

The change is now permanent.

George Bush and Dick Cheney did it with the Presidency. It works.

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