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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:30 AM Sep 2015

Didn't Kim Davis trample the religious freedom of the gay couple first?

What if the gay couple had the deeply religious belief that they have the right to marry and should marry? Has anybody ever checked up on them about that?

Wouldn't that mean that Kim Davis were preventing the gay couple from entering a form of relationship (marriage = legally committed couple) that is religiously more preferable than their current form of relationship (purely socially committed couple)?

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mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
1. If they are members of any of the religions (including Christian denominations)
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:33 AM
Sep 2015

which support marriage equality, the answer is yes, and there are lots of them: many more main stream than her denomination.

But the Constitution protects the rights of everyone--including those with no religious affiliation--
so regardless, she is trampling on their rights. Period.




http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/02/where-christian-churches-stand-on-gay-marriage/

unblock

(52,188 posts)
2. but hers is the one true god, see....
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:35 AM
Sep 2015

the rest of us heathens are all going to hell, so, that's that.

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
4. Fortunately for the rest of us, she doesn't get to make that judgment, which is why
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:38 AM
Sep 2015

she is now cooling her heels in the slammer.

unblock

(52,188 posts)
5. the situation is almost amusing.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:50 AM
Sep 2015

her office can perfectly reasonably accommodate her (insane, bigoted) religious objection anyway, simply by doing what it's doing already -- having other people in the office handle the marriage licenses while she find some aspect of her job she doesn't object to.

her stance is no just that she shouldn't have to do something she objects to, but also that no one in her office can do what she objects to on religious grounds even if the deputy clerks don't object to it.

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
6. People who are delusional can often be amusing, but also completely incable of
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:53 AM
Sep 2015

understanding the humor.

TlalocW

(15,379 posts)
8. Also, apparently now that she's in jail, and the department is issuing certs to "teh gayz"
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 10:59 AM
Sep 2015

Her underlings have no religious qualms about doing so, so wasn't she treading on their religious freedoms when it came to how they felt about marriage equality? Where were the people standing up for their religious rights?

I said this in a snide remark to a religiously conservative friend who got upset and replied with, "But she's in charge of the department." To which I said, "So the person who is in charge dictates what goes on when it comes to what their underlings can and can't do in regards to religious freedoms - so then the judge was not only within his rights, but he was absolutely right to send her to jail for not following his 'edicts.'"

TlalocW

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
9. But then she also trampled on the religious freedom of opposite sex couples.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 01:20 PM
Sep 2015

I'm sure many opposite sex couples also had the deeply religious belief that they have the right to marry and should marry.

Wouldn't that mean that Kim Davis were preventing the opposite sex couple from entering a form of relationship (marriage = legally committed couple) that is religiously more preferable than their current form of relationship (purely socially committed couple)?

And, yes, I copied and pasted DetlefK's text because it so neatly summarized my feelings on both same sex and opposite sex couples being hugely inconvenienced by this silly woman.

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