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Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:40 AM Sep 2015

Elon Musk Says It's Time To Nuke Mars

Wish we had more progress on actually getting off this rock that we're on because the future is out there, not here.

Having read numerous terraforming approaches over the decades, it's amusing to see this one bandied about. I prefer the warm blanket approach myself.

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Elon Musk Says It's Time To Nuke Mars (Original Post) Blue_Adept Sep 2015 OP
While we still haven't figured out how to stop anti-terraforming Earth. n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #1
No, but interestingly enough, what is bad for Earth would be good for Mars. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #17
We could send Trump for a trip. That gasbag should be large enough! nt. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #23
Bad idea, didn't anyone learn from when NASA bombed the moon? Rex Sep 2015 #2
You're a Martian sympathizer, aren't you? n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #3
No not at all (one has a laser pistol aimed at my back) they just get a bad wrap. Rex Sep 2015 #4
Ack ack ack ack ACK! saturnsring Sep 2015 #5
YODle! Yodel for your life! csziggy Sep 2015 #48
What was the problem with the Moon bombing? gvstn Sep 2015 #7
It didn't work. Rex Sep 2015 #8
Who doesn't love fried cheese? leveymg Sep 2015 #9
The arrogant Lunamen had it coming. AngryAmish Sep 2015 #12
We had to strike first NBachers Sep 2015 #30
Are you just stringing us along? frylock Sep 2015 #25
here's a trip into the way-back machine of the bizarre. Enjoy! Javaman Sep 2015 #11
That thread just never gets old. Dr. Strange Sep 2015 #14
it truly is the never ending gift. LOL Javaman Sep 2015 #16
Thanks! That was an EPIC thread! Rex Sep 2015 #18
I knew before I looked it had to be the shoot the moon thread. lonestarnot Sep 2015 #21
Warren DeMontague was just killing it! frylock Sep 2015 #29
We BOMBED the moon??? PatrickforO Sep 2015 #27
check out the answer here Javaman Sep 2015 #36
Colbert agreed once Musk told him about the Martian Bears. yellowcanine Sep 2015 #6
just got back from Venus olddots Sep 2015 #10
Uranus smells worse Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #13
But how do you feel about Uranus as a whole? whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #45
Green and gassy, to be sure Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #47
Only billionaires will ever, if ever, leave this planet. WinkyDink Sep 2015 #15
And John Galt will lead the way. Kablooie Sep 2015 #19
Oh don't kid yourself. Those turds already have a bunch of arks. They got it figured out. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #28
I don't think my post showed i am kidding myself. If it can happen at all, billionaires will be the WinkyDink Sep 2015 #35
But what if we can rid the planet of telephone sanitizers, middle managers, etc. longship Sep 2015 #31
He did not say that! lonestarnot Sep 2015 #20
But, he did acknowledge that he is a supervillian. mucifer Sep 2015 #32
Well his other wacky ideas seem to work out ... DirkGently Sep 2015 #22
What the world wants to know is, where is Elon's Musk for men? Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #24
I preferred guiding comets so that they collide with Mars, adding water, hydrocarbons, and other Agnosticsherbet Sep 2015 #26
Sci-fi writer Kim Stanley Robinson Kotya Sep 2015 #42
I remember the book. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2015 #46
The context of the interview is important davidpdx Sep 2015 #33
Yes that is what he said. lonestarnot Sep 2015 #34
Well, yeah Blue_Adept Sep 2015 #39
Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy PufPuf23 Sep 2015 #37
I loved those books when they started coming out Blue_Adept Sep 2015 #38
I had no idea that there was to be a TV series. PufPuf23 Sep 2015 #41
I hadn't scrolled down yet to read your post Kotya Sep 2015 #43
Mr. Show had that idea back in 1995. Initech Sep 2015 #40
fuck Mars Bucky Sep 2015 #44

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
17. No, but interestingly enough, what is bad for Earth would be good for Mars.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 02:27 PM
Sep 2015

If only there were some way to get all our excess CO2 into Mars's atmosphere, it would be a win-win.

Oh well.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
2. Bad idea, didn't anyone learn from when NASA bombed the moon?
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:05 AM
Sep 2015

Have we learned nothing from our War on Celestial Bodies? Just another excuse to waste money on another alphabet agency imo.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
8. It didn't work.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:27 AM
Sep 2015

Was supposed to bring about Cheezmaddon and 100 years of free cheese raining down from the Heavens. Alas. I believe NASA might have gotten some cooked data or at the very least, a few of them were well baked by the time the full assault on the moon occurred.

I heard that the Venusians might have been involved too. You know how they are! Very acidic personalities.

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
16. it truly is the never ending gift. LOL
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 02:26 PM
Sep 2015

so many names on that thread that are long since gone. those particular posters used to provide hours of fun.

ahh, the good old days of DU.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
28. Oh don't kid yourself. Those turds already have a bunch of arks. They got it figured out.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 02:14 AM
Sep 2015

When this planet goes to shit because of their malfeasance, they will leave us to suffer the consequences and sail off into wherever.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
35. I don't think my post showed i am kidding myself. If it can happen at all, billionaires will be the
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 09:04 AM
Sep 2015

only people saved. I believe that is THE reason we are seeing unprecedented grabs for more and more obscene levels of wealth.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
26. I preferred guiding comets so that they collide with Mars, adding water, hydrocarbons, and other
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 02:10 AM
Sep 2015

chemicals.

 

Kotya

(235 posts)
42. Sci-fi writer Kim Stanley Robinson
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:58 AM
Sep 2015

In his book, 2312, talks of terraforming Venus with a giant sun shield and crashing some of Saturn's small, ice moons on to the surface to lower the temperature and make oceans.

Anyways, if we wait 1.5 billion years, Mars will be quite comfortable thanks to an expanding sun.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
46. I remember the book.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 12:08 PM
Sep 2015

It would be interesting to see what humans will have evolved into in 1.5 billion years. Sadly, I won't be around for that.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
33. The context of the interview is important
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 08:18 AM
Sep 2015

Colbert was challenging Musk about whether Mars would have a livable habitat for humans. Musk stated that we would have to live in domes and that Mars would have to be heated. Then Colbert asked how and Musk responded (paraphrasing) "Well there is the fast way and the slow way." Colbert asked what the fast way was and Musk said to nuke both poles of Mars. Musk said the slow way was to import greenhouse gases. I take it that Musk was being sarcastic then anything.

PufPuf23

(8,767 posts)
37. Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 09:58 AM
Sep 2015

Good read about the colonization and terraforming of Mars.

The problems on Earth are overpopulation, environmental damage, and transnational corporations.

http://www.amazon.com/Red-Mars-Trilogy-Stanley-Robinson/dp/0553560735/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1441979371&sr=1-1&keywords=Robinson+Mars+Trilogy


In his most ambitious project to date, award-winning author Kim Stanley Robinson utilizes years of research and cutting-edge science in the first of three novels that will chronicle the colonization of Mars.

For eons, sandstorms have swept the barren desolate landscape of the red planet. For centuries, Mars has beckoned to mankind to come and conquer its hostile climate. Now, in the year 2026, a group of one hundred colonists is about to fulfill that destiny.

John Boone, Maya Toitavna, Frank Chalmers, and Arkady Bogdanov lead a mission whose ultimate goal is the terraforming of Mars. For some, Mars will become a passion driving them to daring acts of courage and madness; for others it offers and opportunity to strip the planet of its riches. And for the genetic "alchemists, " Mars presents a chance to create a biomedical miracle, a breakthrough that could change all we know about life...and death.

The colonists place giant satellite mirrors in Martian orbit to reflect light to the planets surface. Black dust sprinkled on the polar caps will capture warmth and melt the ice. And massive tunnels, kilometers in depth, will be drilled into the Martian mantle to create stupendous vents of hot gases. Against this backdrop of epic upheaval, rivalries, loves, and friendships will form and fall to pieces--for there are those who will fight to the death to prevent Mars from ever being changed.

Brilliantly imagined, breathtaking in scope and ingenuity, Red Mars is an epic scientific saga, chronicling the next step in human evolution and creating a world in its entirety. Red Mars shows us a future, with both glory and tarnish, that awes with complexity and inspires with vision.

http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Mars-Trilogy-Stanley-Robinson/dp/0553573357/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1441979371&sr=1-2&keywords=Robinson+Mars+Trilogy

The red planet is red no longer, as Mars has become a perfectly inhabitable world. But while Mars flourishes, Earth is threatened by overpopulation and ecological disaster. Soon people look to Mars as a refuge, initiating a possible interplanetary conflict, as well as political strife between the Reds, who wish to preserve the planet in its desert state, and the Green "terraformers". The ultimate fate of Earth, as well as the possibility of new explorations into the solar system, stand in the balance.

http://www.amazon.com/Green-Mars-Trilogy-Stanley-Robinson/dp/0553572393/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1441979371&sr=1-3&keywords=Robinson+Mars+Trilogy

In the Nebula Award winning Red Mars, Kim Stanley Robinson began his critically acclaimed epic saga of the colonization of Mars, the Hugo Award winning Green Mars continued the thrilling and timeless tale of humanity's struggle to survive at its farthest frontier.

Nearly a generation has passed since the first pioneers landed, but the transformation of Mars to an Earthlike planet has just begun The plan is opposed by those determined to preserve the planets hostile, barren beauty. Led by rebels like Peter Clayborne, these young people are the first generation of children born on Mars. They will be joined by original settlers Maya Toitovna, Simon Frasier, and Sax Russell. Against this cosmic backdrop, passions, rivalries, and friendships explode in a story as spectacular as the planet itself.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
38. I loved those books when they started coming out
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:12 AM
Sep 2015

I'm afraid that the TV series adaptation will fall short of course in far too many ways. But those books are masterpieces.

PufPuf23

(8,767 posts)
41. I had no idea that there was to be a TV series.
Fri Sep 11, 2015, 10:53 AM
Sep 2015

I haven't had a TV since 2011.

Actually had never read any Robinson until 2012 and read the Mars Trilogy, the California Trilogy, and several others. Good writer.

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