Kim Davis Won't Be Arrested Again Promises 'Patriot' Militia Group

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The group that battled federal marshals at the Cliven Bundy ranch has sent its members to protect Kim Davis from arrest.

Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes says he and members of his militia group will protect Kim Davis should federal marshals try to arrest her again. The group, best known for waging a standoff with federal marshals last year at the Cliven Bundy ranch in Nevada, and more recently of showing up and promising to arm protestors in Ferguson, has a long history of anti-government activism.

“As far as we’re concerned, this is not over,” Rhodes told fellow anti-government activists yesterday, “and this judge needs to be put on notice that his behavior is not going to be accepted and we’ll be there to stop it and intercede ourselves if we have to."

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On the Oath Keepers' website, Rhodes claims Judge David Bunning "grossly overstepped his bounds and violated Mrs Davis’ due process rights, and in particular her right to a jury trial."

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The Southern Poverty Law Center has labeled Rhodes an "extremist" and part of the anti-government movement.

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This is what happens when RWNJs get a sense of entitlement. Who am I kidding? They've always had that- they are by far the most entitled people around- And now we've made them feel justified by letting them get away with that Cliven Bundy shit. Maybe not this time, maybe not next time, but it's no longer a question of if someone gets killed, but when.

[malaise]

1. They should arrest all of them

They'd better before these loonies think they can defy all laws - as in Bundy.

[TheMastersNemesis]

3. They Probably Would Not Go Peacefully.

[jeff47]

13. And the downside is.....? (nt)

[Erose999]

21. "Do not go gently into that good night..." who gives a fuck so long as they're gone. I support using

any means necessary to get rid of the Oaf Queefers. Their next gathering should be turned into a smoking, irradiated crater.

[jtuck004]

41. That should protect her. Police are better at picking on unarmed people. n/t

[haikugal]

52. It does highlight this nonsense doesn't it...talk about privileged thinking!

[Fred Sanders]

16. Fortunately for them they are white and Christian and cloaked in white and religious privilege and therefore will not be arrested.

[RKP5637]

87. Yep, likely they will get a free pass as long as they invoke the god word and call themselves the

real Americans.

[TheMastersNemesis]

2. The Oath Keepers Are Looking For Armed Conflict With The Feds.

Armed conflict with the feds would make any of them who are killed martyrs. It would be another Waco. And the GOP & RW would use such an incident to the hilt and encourage even confrontation. The GOP wants Obama to be forced to act and create chaos for the 2016 election. And the MSM would chime right in helping them.

[RKP5637]

5. Quite likely what is going on IMO. n/t

[DetlefK]

15. The question is: Do they actually want to be martyrs?

Or are they just grandstanding for the attention?

Just imagine if the cops show up with wheeled tanks and assault-rifles and body-armor and snipers and grenade-launchers with tear-gas... Just like in Ferguson. How many oath-keepers would put up a fight? One canister of tear-gas and they would run.

[RKP5637]

17. I think it's mostly grandstanding and seeing how far they can push the envelop!

But I bet a few of them are armed and ready, crazy enough to get themselves killed.

[AlbertCat]

43. I think it's mostly grandstanding

But seeing how they are nuts.... they might shoot themselves just for effect.

I think they should just change all the locks in Davis' office so she can't get in again.

"Oh...sorry Kim...We had to change them because of security issues your kerfuffle caused. We'll get those new keys to you in the mail ASAP....no really!."


And then ignore all of them.

[RKP5637]

49. They get too much free reign. They invoke the god word and many people

stand back. As many have said, she was jailed not for her religion, but rather that she was using her position and authority to force her brand of religion on people.

[brush]

40. Guess we'll find out how committed to her faith . . .

Little Miss Kimmie is once she realizes that people could get hurt.

Let's see if she has the nerve to defy the judge.

[Cosmocat]

63. Depends on who "they" are

THEY being the actual morons with the guns in no way shape or form want to be martyrs, they are dumb ass fucknuts amped up on stupid who can't see past the stupid to the reality of what it would be if it went south.

THEY being every other ass hat, chicken hawk conservative POS, absolutely wants to see them be martyrs.

[Runningdawg]

71. Anywhere you find Oath Keepers

you will find a group who would rather be called patriots than martyrs. Just like Westboro's finest, their plan is to provoke OTHERS into violent action. Don't be one of the others.

[hifiguy]

81. In the immortal words of J. Wellington Wimpy,

"Let's you and him fight."

Chicken-hawks, all.

[Jamastiene]

18. It might be another Waco, but if the government continues to not enforce

the laws, they will continue to be more and more emboldened and continue to keep the laws from being enforceable. If the feds cannot or will not help, locals will be less likely to bother following the laws. Why even have a country or laws if the feds won't enforce them. I wouldn't care if it did turn into another Waco. Koresh caused that shit to happen, not the feds. Why people see that Waco bunch as some kind of heroes or martyrs is beyond me. Koresh was a child molester of at least one child, his sister in law, and possibly more. If he hadn't stockpile so much explosive shit and had his little standoff with the feds, his whole cult would still be alive. He caused that, not the government.

Of course, the RWNJs see it different, but it is long overdue that they learn they need to follow the laws like the rest of us. What I would not give for a tough liberal administration that doesn't take shit from right wingers for fear of not being liked by them. Who fucking cares if they like us? They need to follow the law and quit obstructing justice and causing problems. They will continue to do it as long as they know they can get away with it. Make an example of them by actually arresting and trying them for their obstruction and the rest will think twice about pulling this bullshit. Letting that woman out of jail was the first step to giving them what they want. They will continue until no one enforces civil rights for gay couples anywhere below the Mason Dixon line and the feds won't bother to step in. It was a bad move, a VERY bad move.

If the rest of us had to put up with fucking asshole dumbass Bush for eight years because the SCOTUS said so, they can put up with gay marriage not affecting one iota of their daily lives, except for their obsessive hatred for gay people. Until homophobia is seen as the problem (it is), there is nothing we can do about them obsessing that somewhere, at some time, some gay person might have the right to exist without being harassed and stalked and murdered. As far as gay marriage goes, they can print more marriage licenses to make up for them using up multiple marriage licenses for the numerous multiple marriages they find so damn sacred.

I guess you can tell by this post, I'm fed up with them getting away with their bullshit. That is my one non-liberal quality; I wouldn't care if it did end up being another Waco. I don't give a shit if bigots like me or not. I just want them to move the fuck out of the way so I can have my civil rights if the government decides to let me have more civil rights. Hint: I would like to not be fired from my job for being gay and other rights we don't have yet too.

The feds need to enforce the laws in areas where people are so routinely bigoted and have always gotten away with it and caused trouble any time civil rights are given to another group of people who should have had them to begin with. Letting these hate groups get away with obstructing justice is no way to run a country. They had better be glad I am not in charge. Waco would be a wet dream to them. They would like something as mild as Waco happening to them if they don't follow the damn laws, and I wouldn't shed a single tear for any of them. They have raped and beaten the pity and compassion out of this gay women from the south. I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

[OldRedneck]

54. Word!!!

Afuckingmen!!!!'

If I had been on charge at Bundy ranch the
"Oathkeepers" would have been on the
Receiving end of a couple of Apache gunships

[Dawson Leery]

60. Does another Waco have to occur?

It might have to. These hardliners cannot be allowed to use violence to get their way.
What will stop them from harassing minorities at the voting booths? What will stop them from harassing gay couples, non Christians, Athiests, Immigrants?

The American far right thinks of the Europeans as being soft. I assure them, the French would not allow some skinheads to get way with something like this. If some far right skinheads decided to undermine the authority of the elected government, the French government would unleash much worse than Waco on their asses.

The sovereign citizens/oathkeepers must feel the heat that was felt over Dresden in 1944.

These spoiled thugs have been appeased since 1865. It MUST STOP!

[hifiguy]

80. Most excellent!

Well said, indeed.

[RKP5637]

86. Extremely well said! These individuals see what the judge did as weakness to be exploited when

he released Kim Davis from jail, rather than a reasonable act to give her another chance. They think they can now notch it up a bit. Frankly, and I find it sad, individuals of this ilk need to be slammed into compliance. I'm really fed up with them too, and they have the audacity to wrap themselves in the American flag while un-American and standing for the opposite of what the American flag represents. I find them disgusting POS. If it's another Waco, so be it, I don't give a F anymore. They are trying to destroy OUR country.

[malaise]

42. So is Fuckabee part of the Oath Keepers or is he running to be head of

the Federal Government. At some point it becomes treason.

[w0nderer]

64. self confessed did they?

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defines terrorism as “the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”Sep 13, 2011
http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/terrorism/pages/welcome.aspx

Doubt that needs more clarification more than... what country is <strike>torture</strike> "extreme information gathering from reluctant humint sources" outsourced to nowadays?

[Lordquinton]

68. I believe that's the reason they didn't act on them last year

Even though it would have been fully justified, given everything that was happening. Instead they took their aggressions out on Ferguson.

[marym625]

4. This is some seriously scary shit

And it's over equal rights. Just too fucked up.

[RKP5637]

6. It's allowed to grow and grow. Politicians don't want to touch the third rail of

equal rights for all. So, notch by notch some feel more emboldened to take away rights and enforce persecution. They are looking for something to spark a battle with the Federal government. What is bizarre, they do it under the banner of the American flag.

[marym625]

23. yep.

And it's just going to get worse as M$M plays into their hands.

[steve2470]

14. yes it's very scary

I hope nothing blows up at the clerk's office. BTW, I hope you're loving your new California home! I'm a tad envious, but happy for you

[marym625]

24. come here!

The you don't have to at all envious.

Loving it! Thank you. I hope you are well.

I hope so too. But the writing is on the wall with this bunch. Shit will go down. I just hope no lives are lost.

[tabasco]

28. I'm not scared.

Federal marshals show up and these traitorous idiot derelicts will:

1) Have their asses handed to them in a firefight, or,
2) Run away like a bunch of little babies.

Either way, it's time they learned the US is a nation of laws.

[Old Crow]

33. I agree completely. And I have to say...

... the sooner the better. When yahoos are allowed to strut and swagger with their guns like this in defiance of a federal judge, it does nothing but embolden them. This needs to be shut down ASAP.

[marym625]

38. like at the Bundy ranch?

Your scenarios are nice but these people are whack. The government, while having no problem killing innocent people of color and the mentally disabled, are afraid of making martyrs of these people. They're in a catch 22.

Something will go down and it won't be pretty

[SwankyXomb]

58. Federal marshals seems like a proportionate response

There's nothing better for putting down an armed insurrection than the Kentucky National Guard.

[Jamastiene]

7. They should never have been allowed to get by with their shit the first time.

Now, they are emboldened and will continue to do it. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. The judge's "behavior" is not the problem here. It is Kim Davis' behavior and the Oath Keepers' behavior that needs to be adjusted/stopped.

[Aerows]

10. Absolutely.

And you are right - they should have been stopped the first time.

[onehandle]

8. Gun culture is just good clean domestic terrorism. nt

[mak3cats]

34. You got that right! (eom)

[marym625]

39. +100000

[Aerows]

9. Nothing good will come of this.

These people can't wait to throw their weight around and threaten people.

[DetlefK]

11. Imagine what happened if black vigilantes promised to kill cops if they try to arrest one of theirs.

How long would it take for the FBI to bring the hammer down with charges of domestic terrorism?

[Old Crow]

29. +1. The mind boggles. (N/T)

[Jamastiene]

57. Exactly.

They let the hate groups do whatever they want, but let anyone not in one of those hate groups try pulling something like that, especially any minorities. They'd open up and fire right away and not think twice about it.

[leftofcool]

78. Ditto

[RKP5637]

88. Exactly! They would launch a lethal force against black vigilantes, while these A-holes will

likely get a free pass of some kind. I also imagine a lot of RW politicians are also involved in this. I think there's a lot going on in the background.

[jeff47]

12. Good thing we didn't go after them when they "protected" Bundy! (nt)

[yellowcanine]

19. Armed defiance of a Federal judge's order? Okay that could be treason.

[longship]

37. Well, treason is legally defined in the US Constitution.

And by that definition this would not qualify. By your I suspect that you already knew that but I thought I'd better post my pedantic correction for the benefit of others.

[brush]

45. It would actually be sedition

Still extremely serious, anti-government actions.

Guess we'll see if they have the balls to do it since they've out and out declared their intent.

[longship]

47. My thinking: all talk, no action.

And if they come locked and loaded, all hell may break out.

And yes, sedition is an appropriate term. However, I prefer just criminal.

[frylock]

20. Eric Holder's legacy..

these fuckwads should have been dealt with in NV.

[toddwv]

22. So the Shariasts have their footsoldiers.

What's next? Explosive vests at malls?

[csziggy]

85. Next? - they've already blown up and burned down women's clinics

Not caring whether or not abortions are performed there, they've kept up their terrorism towards women's health care for over forty years. Killing and terrorizing doctors who work at those clinics wasn't enough for them - and isn't enough for the Feds to declare the Christian Taliban terrorists.

Now they are spreading their open terrorism to more segments of society and no one seems to be willing to stop them. Margaret Atwood was correct in what she foresaw in The Handmaid's Tale.

[RKP5637]

89. They are Domestic Terrorists, but TPTB don't want to call them out for what they are, and

they are likely not going away on their own. They feel embolden to destroy America and law and order.

[Downtown Hound]

25. Good, let them gather in one spot

and then arrest them all. If they resist, well, maybe then they'll understand what we've been trying to tell them all along: fighting the government with only a gun is a really bad idea.

[SoapBox]

26. Oh vomit...

Wackos.

[alfredo]

27. Will they post snipers like the Bundy standoff?

[Yavin4]

30. BTW, this is a perfect example of poor White people having privileges than ALL Black people don't

have. Instead of this militia, comprised of poor White people, was actually the BLM movement. And it was the BLM movement that made these statements. The FBI, the BATF, Homeland Security, State Police, local police, and the National Guard would swoop down on them.

[AlbertCat]

48. Instead of this militia, comprised of poor White people

They aren't all poor.


They are however, good ol' boys who think they look heroic.

[longship]

31. Good luck with that, guys.

I will be keeping score.

US Marshalls: 0
OafKeepers: 0

Let me know when the whistle blows and the ball goes into play. Let's see how this works out for ya.

[jalan48]

32. So we are at the point where citizens can claim laws are illegitimate and act accordingly.

All we need is for a Republican running for President to side with the Oath Keepers and then we can have them claim the 'other' party is illegitimate as well. This is how Fascism takes hold in a country. Laws no longer apply and those with the 'true' beliefs get to rule whether they are in the majority or not. Obama needs to take these folks on, ASAP. And we thought Bush and Cheney were bad....

[RKP5637]

90. I was thinking this earlier, Obama does need to make a statement on this and other things in a

presidential appearance on TV. I feel like it's spiraling out of control. These, are the foot soldiers for Fascism! It needs to be stopped!

[jalan48]

92. Yes, these folks are itching for someone in power to give them the go-ahead.

It may be the only way for the right wing to maintain power and they know it.

[Marrah_G]

35. If they do not stop them now, this behavior will spread like cancer.

[rtracey]

36. please

please step in front of the US Marshals when they are arresting this arrogant POS woman for not doing her job. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE..... thank you

[brush]

46. I don't think Little Miss Kimmie has it in her to disobey the judge . . .

otherwise she'd still be in jail.

The only reason she is out is because she told the judge she would not interfere with the issuing of licenses.

[former9thward]

72. No she did not tell the judge that.

He ordered her not to interfere with the licenses. It was a one way conversation. She has not been to work this week.

[rtracey]

77. well

we shall see on Monday or sometime next week, because you know the media will be on this story like flies on crap.....

[brush]

93. Yep! I've got the popcorn ready.

[saidsimplesimon]

44. Here we go, do I need to check the list of

hate groups listed by The Southern Poverty Law Center? Why do we allow cattle farmers to profit from public land, Nevada, Harry?

[Joey Liberal]

50. Oath Keepers should get whacked

We let them off the hook once before. That should not happen again.

[Helen Borg]

51. Is this civil war?

...

[haikugal]

56. They'd like it to be.

[Ned Flanders]

53. Somone HAS been killed, two cops in Vegas

Remember that couple who killed two cops and put a Gasden flag on one of the bodies? They were at the Bundy event as well.

[link:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-shooting-suspects-left-swastika-dont-tread-on-me-flag-on-dead-officers/|

[gordianot]

55. This is a planned insurrection on the actions of one woman.

Will she stop her deputies from issuing marriage license violating her release? Will congress defund the Government over family planning? I cannot imagine a worse fall prior to an election.

[Shadowflash]

59. Who didn't see this shit coming?

Rednecks with more bullets than brains with a Clint Eastwood wanna-be complex.

So much for the conservative right's 'blue lives matter' faux outrage. Between this and the Bundy fiasco, it seems to me the 'patriots' *cough, cough!* have no issues pointing guns at, threatening or possibly shooting cops doing their jobs.

[raven mad]

61. Buncha idiots.

[RKP5637]

91. Yep, and IMO, Buncha Domestic Terrorists! n/t

[ejbr]

62. The government better

not play patty cake with these bitches this time.

[YabaDabaNoDinoNo]

65. Elect me POTUS and by day 2 every single oath keeper and anti choice fundy

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Will either be dead or in jail

I would do it on day 1 but day 1 will be busy rounding up bush Cheney and everyone else regardless of party to stand trial at the hauge for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

I have not figured out day 3 yet

Perhaps hanging banksters by their endtrails will be on the card

Ya want real change for the better elect me

[BlueJazz]

74. President?..Hell...I wish you were the King. Life would be a lot less hassle

[YabaDabaNoDinoNo]

94. King would be kool but as King I would require first pick of all the women folk in the kingdom

which may cause a few problems.

So I would rather be President but just call be the Head Mother Fucker in Change!

Oh yeah out goes the Rose Garden and in Goes the Herb Garden if ya get my drift along with immediate presidential pardons for ALL non violent drug offenses and by Executive Order Herb will be Legal on ALL Federal Property including the military.

My Inaugural Ball would be on the Washington Mall, Free and Open to all with George Clinton and Parliament Funkadelic with the 'Mothership' as the Headliner.

Sure I would piss off some but god dammit I would be loved by the majority!

The mall is Federal property too so Bring yer own, I won't have enough for everyone, sorry hope you understand.

[kelliekat44]

66. so they are the coming insurgency? nt

[JEB]

67. Criminals acting in concert.

Bring on the gang task force and swat team.

[hifiguy]

79. Criminal conspiracy to obstruct the law or civil rights

would be entirely appropriate.

And I would take a long hard look to see if RICO could be applied.

These fuckwits are cruisin' for a bruisin' and I hope they get it.

[arely staircase]

69. Openly threatening a federal judge

should be a crime.

[sakabatou]

95. I believe it is already. Not sure.

[arely staircase]

96. My post was poorly worded

I meant should be as in I bet it is. I think the feds messed up by not coming down like a ton of bricks after they pointed guns at leo during the Bundy cock up.

[colsohlibgal]

70. They Are Talking Treason

It is past time we get ultra tough with these nuts, America's ISIS, wanting to push us back to Medieval times and make us a theocracy.

[Faux pas]

73. Like I said the other day

maybe the oath keepers should go fight isis.

[Warren DeMontague]

75. "AH REGRET THAT I HAVE ONLY ONE LIFE TO GIVE TO KEEP TEH GAYS FROM GITTIN MARRIUHD"

[hamsterjill]

76. Wasn't Kim Davis to have returned to work today?

I heard a CNN report the day after she was released from jail indicating that she would take some personal time, but would return to work on Friday (today).

I'd have thought there would have been coverage of her return, but I've not seen any.

[lpbk2713]

82. They should be flying their official flag ...

[spanone]

83. oh really? we'll see about that, assholes.

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peoples who do not care to live by the established laws are criminals...these are fucking criminals

[bl968]

84. Seditious conspiracy

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

Or

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

Take your pick. I submitted a tip to the FBI from their web site linking the story and the Applicable us code.