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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 07:15 AM Sep 2015

Teenage girl band Kalliope Jones told to "use the sultry": What people were Tweeting

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NORTHAMPTON – Three members of a teen rock band protested on Facebook after judges at the Three County Fair Battle of the Bands advised them to "use the sultry' after a battle of the bands competition.

Kalliope Jones, made up of Pioneer Valley residents Isabella DeHerdt, 16, on vocals and guitar; Alouette Batteau, 14, on drums and vocals; and Amelia Chalfant, 14, on bass, said they lost points in the stage presence – showmanship category. The trio came in third place in the competition.

After seeing one judge's comment that said "Use the sultry to draw in the crowd," the teens protested.

"A woman's sex appeal, or anyone's for that matter, should not be the defining factor in their success in the music industry, and in addition to that, WE ARE CHILDREN! WE ARE 14-16 YEARS OLD," Chalfant said on Facebook.

http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2015/09/teenage_girl_band_kalliope_jon.html#incart_river
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Teenage girl band Kalliope Jones told to "use the sultry": What people were Tweeting (Original Post) SecularMotion Sep 2015 OP
A Little Creepy ProfessorGAC Sep 2015 #1
I'd say more than a little creepy NewJeffCT Sep 2015 #6
Well, if the Judges Were 21 . . ProfessorGAC Sep 2015 #20
Wait, what AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #15
Sorry, We Disagree ProfessorGAC Sep 2015 #19
Well, not for lack of trying. AtheistCrusader Sep 2015 #21
That "sultry" comment will get them a lot of free publicity... I liked their response! :-) secondwind Sep 2015 #2
While I like the way they think Egnever Sep 2015 #3
You're Right, Of Course ProfessorGAC Sep 2015 #4
Whats wrong with that judge??? So it isn't about the music after all. marble falls Sep 2015 #5
Seems like an odd comment, given they are minors! Helen Borg Sep 2015 #7
Does the judge have a daughter? Omaha Steve Sep 2015 #8
Right on. raging moderate Sep 2015 #9
Fohkin'hell JackInGreen Sep 2015 #10
Hypersexualization of girls Thav Sep 2015 #11
Fame or success? There are successful people in the business that are not famous. nt Snotcicles Sep 2015 #12
One of those quiverfull creeps? 47of74 Sep 2015 #13
Awesome attitude, ladies. lostnfound Sep 2015 #14
Only solution: they should form a new band called "Use The Sultry". Initech Sep 2015 #16
Eww Oneironaut Sep 2015 #17
Even more awesome - they write a lot of their own music! csziggy Sep 2015 #18
Bunch of Pedos in the judging booth! d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #22
Lucky for them, in the Pioneer Valley that comment is gonna tick off most people. Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #23

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
1. A Little Creepy
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 07:26 AM
Sep 2015

Use the sultry. They're talking to 14 year olds! Sheesh!

On Edit: Joan Jett didn't use the sultry. Things worked out pretty well for her.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
20. Well, if the Judges Were 21 . .
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:25 AM
Sep 2015

. . .then wanting a 19 or 20 year old to "sultry it up" would be a little more understandable.

I'll be not a single judge was under 30. That is WAY!!! creepier.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
15. Wait, what
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:02 AM
Sep 2015

The edit doesn't make sense. "Joan Jett didn't use the sultry"

Beg to differ. Watch her eyes in Crimson and Clover.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
19. Sorry, We Disagree
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:24 AM
Sep 2015

Her stage personna was more that of macho guitar player than rock and roll nymph.

She wasn't in a position to tell the video director what to do. Blame the director, not her.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
21. Well, not for lack of trying.
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:29 AM
Sep 2015

But I do believe you when you say it was external direction, rather than her idea.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
3. While I like the way they think
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 08:21 AM
Sep 2015

Success in the music industry depends on showmanship as much as musical talent.

That doesn't have to mean sultry at age 14 but you cant just stand there and play and expect to be successful solely on your talent with an instrument either.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
4. You're Right, Of Course
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 08:28 AM
Sep 2015

They're not playing symphonic music. It's pop/rock, so you are spot on.

But, there is difference between telling a young band they have to be more performance oriented and telling kids to be "sultry"

Obviously we agree on both parts of your post.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
7. Seems like an odd comment, given they are minors!
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 09:04 AM
Sep 2015

besides that, they seem like very interesting girls. I'd be a fan, if I was into that kind of music!

Thav

(946 posts)
11. Hypersexualization of girls
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 09:28 AM
Sep 2015

It's pretty twisted as a society when we put so much emphasis on a girl's sexuality. I'm sure these girls are super talented musicians, but the judges were focused on "the sultry." One should question whether that judge was having nefarious thoughts about underage girls.

We, as a society, are shocked at the statistics of sexual assault, especially against underage girls; But then we tell underage girls to "use the sultry." Then, most of society questions whether the girl was at fault when she gets assaulted.

Now I'm all angry. I better go do do something positive - like hug my daughter and tell her she's awesome just the way she is.

lostnfound

(16,173 posts)
14. Awesome attitude, ladies.
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 09:54 AM
Sep 2015

Teach the world and be yourselves.
I'm liking this new generation of young ladies, they are smarter than I was.
There's some kind of sense of self-worth that has arisen.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
22. Bunch of Pedos in the judging booth!
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:29 AM
Sep 2015

I thought they were supposed to be judging talent, not how sexy the band portrays itself. I wonder if any of the male bands were told the same thing...

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
23. Lucky for them, in the Pioneer Valley that comment is gonna tick off most people.
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 12:20 PM
Sep 2015

Telling clearly young teens to "use the sultry" is way more than a little creepy.

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