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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 08:08 AM Sep 2015

Chicken Shit America!

Texas high school student arrested, suspended after bringing homemade clock to school



The freshman at MacArthur High School was detained by police Monday after the principal and authorities were shown his invention. Mohamed said he enjoys making radios and other gadgets at home, so on Sunday, he spent about 20 minutes putting together the clock, using a circuit board, digital display, and case. He told The Dallas Morning News he showed his engineering teacher at the beginning of the school day, who said it was "really nice," then added, "I would advise you not to show any other teachers." Mohamed kept the clock in his bag, but an English teacher heard the alarm go off during class, and he showed her the device. Mohamed said she told him it "looks like a bomb," then kept it.

Mohamed said he was in sixth period when the principal, accompanied by a police officer, pulled him from class. He was led to a room where four other officers were waiting for him, including one he had never seen before who said: "Yup, that's who I thought it was." Mohamed said he was searched and told by the principal that if he didn't write a statement, he'd be expelled. Mohamed was handcuffed and taken to a juvenile detention center, where he was fingerprinted. After that, he was released to his parents.

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He has been suspended from school for three days, which his father finds upsetting. "He just wants to invent good things for mankind," explained Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed, a Sudanese immigrant. "But because his name is Mohamed and because of Sept. 11, I think my son got mistreated."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-high-school-student-arrested-suspended-after-bringing-homemade-clock-to-school/ar-AAelysP?li=BBgzzfc&ocid=mailsignout
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Chicken Shit America! (Original Post) trumad Sep 2015 OP
This is fucked up on some many levels. TM99 Sep 2015 #1
I hope... JustADumbFireman Sep 2015 #29
Agree! n/t dae Sep 2015 #30
If that kind of paranoia existed when I was in school, I'd STILL be in jail. Class of '68. hobbit709 Sep 2015 #2
I graduated in 66 and at any point in time the chem lab was always being repaired due to explosions LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #13
We usually had to evacuate the whole lab wing, dae Sep 2015 #32
if the teacher thought it was a bomb, elehhhhna Sep 2015 #3
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2015 #11
suspended for making a clock. WDIM Sep 2015 #4
Funny thing is--- trumad Sep 2015 #6
Suspended because of stupidity!!!!! newfie11 Sep 2015 #5
Suspended while being brown and Muslim sarge43 Sep 2015 #21
Bingo! nt brer cat Sep 2015 #22
Sad but true newfie11 Sep 2015 #41
This country has always been like this sarge43 Sep 2015 #42
this from a country that was once terrorized by a LightBright elehhhhna Sep 2015 #7
If his name wasn't Mohamed, Cyrano Sep 2015 #8
You guess wrong. Non-Muslim children have been hemmed-up for biting Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #39
"Yup, that's who I thought it was." Baitball Blogger Sep 2015 #9
Since it was in Irving TX he should have put a Dallas Cowboys logo on his clock. hobbit709 Sep 2015 #10
Following that they questioned Ahmed for over an hour csziggy Sep 2015 #43
Are you fucking kidding me? lonestarnot Sep 2015 #12
Looks like a lot of scared sheep in tough ole Texas to me. jalan48 Sep 2015 #14
How to Radicalize People 101 Roy Rolling Sep 2015 #15
It's not so much that 'it looked like a bomb' as it is 'he looked like a Mohamed', I expect. /nt Marr Sep 2015 #16
Yes, chicken shits indeed. Come on, America.. mountain grammy Sep 2015 #17
Sometimes it's embarrassing to be an American. Shrike47 Sep 2015 #18
Sometimes it's embarrassing to be human...Checked out Hungary lately? whathehell Sep 2015 #31
School is no place to show intelligence and ingenuity lame54 Sep 2015 #19
Again a little conversation with the student kacekwl Sep 2015 #20
TEXAS high school Plucketeer Sep 2015 #23
He, or the engineering teacher, should have kept it in his classroom The2ndWheel Sep 2015 #24
If his name were Andy Jorgensen or something, we wouldn't even be having the conversation. marmar Sep 2015 #28
Possibly. Life can suck. The2ndWheel Sep 2015 #36
Why? trumad Sep 2015 #38
Because people? The2ndWheel Sep 2015 #40
Bullshit. He brought it to school. Does the school have a 'no clocks' policy? No? Then buh-bye. X_Digger Sep 2015 #44
Right Wing America - Killing Ingenuity And Creativity - Daily - What A Message For Children cantbeserious Sep 2015 #25
This kid is dangerous to the status quo liberal N proud Sep 2015 #26
and after all this, they still suspended him? dhill926 Sep 2015 #27
On the other hand...................... HeartoftheMidwest Sep 2015 #33
Texas is NOT representative of America as a whole..Even their tourism ads admit that whathehell Sep 2015 #34
I'd hate to see what they would have done to him d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #35
Islamophobia is the least of the souths problem. Whites are still afraid of American Indians LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #37
 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
1. This is fucked up on some many levels.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 08:17 AM
Sep 2015

My grandfather was an antiques dealer and restorer. He gave me a love of repairing old clocks, radios, and other sundry 'vintage' electronics that I still do to this day.

This kid should have been encouraged to explore his creativity with electronics. He needs kudos and he needs to be advanced in his studies not suspended because he has a Muslim name and built a clock!

We have become such chicken shits indeed!

JustADumbFireman

(59 posts)
29. I hope...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:10 AM
Sep 2015

... that his parents sue the living shit out of that @$$hole teacher, the @$$hole school district, and the @$$hole police officers.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
5. Suspended because of stupidity!!!!!
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 08:23 AM
Sep 2015

What the hell! This is the kind of person this country needs.
Stupid people stifle innovation! I hope this doesn't stop his future inventions!

sarge43

(28,940 posts)
21. Suspended while being brown and Muslim
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:34 AM
Sep 2015

Paranoia and bigotry

This would not have happened if his family were rich, white, faux Christians "pillars of the community".

sarge43

(28,940 posts)
42. This country has always been like this
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:41 PM
Sep 2015

50, 60 years ago most of us wouldn't have heard about this. It would have been a black kid or a Hispanic kid or a Native American kid, but it would have business as usual and not worth mentioning even in a local rag. Just bullying the powerless and through fear and violence keeping them in their place.

At least it can't be hidden the way it use to. Maybe there's some hope in that, but it's just possible we'll become numb to it and eventually indifferent.

Business as usual.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
39. You guess wrong. Non-Muslim children have been hemmed-up for biting
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:09 PM
Sep 2015

toaster pasties into the shape of a gun.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
10. Since it was in Irving TX he should have put a Dallas Cowboys logo on his clock.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 08:54 AM
Sep 2015

Then they would have all crowded around him and slapped him on the back.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
43. Following that they questioned Ahmed for over an hour
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:42 PM
Sep 2015

Without letting him call his parents or any other responsible adult - even though he asked repeatedly to be allowed to call his parents.

jalan48

(13,833 posts)
14. Looks like a lot of scared sheep in tough ole Texas to me.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:08 AM
Sep 2015

No disrespect meant to the good Democrats and Progressives living there however.

Roy Rolling

(6,905 posts)
15. How to Radicalize People 101
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:09 AM
Sep 2015

If you want to create terrorists, take smart young kids and teach them that the police state will drag you out at any time and lock you up. You know, take your freedom. That thing America is all about---freedom. Take it away from them.

Then, like authoritarian countries torn apart by terrorists, they are happy to dismantle the society that shunned them unjustly.

Congratulations "law and order". You have claimed another innocent victim.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
16. It's not so much that 'it looked like a bomb' as it is 'he looked like a Mohamed', I expect. /nt
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:11 AM
Sep 2015

whathehell

(29,023 posts)
31. Sometimes it's embarrassing to be human...Checked out Hungary lately?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:16 AM
Sep 2015

We don't have a lock on this sort of thing.

kacekwl

(7,009 posts)
20. Again a little conversation with the student
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:31 AM
Sep 2015

and a intelligent teacher could have determined that it WAS just a clock and this poor kid could have received a handshake for his ingenuity. Instead we fly off the handle and start arresting kids . Why talk when we can push someone around. Sad indeed.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
23. TEXAS high school
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:44 AM
Sep 2015
TEXAS! - where they're busy writing new Tex-books for Christians. Poor kid's just a victim of geography.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
24. He, or the engineering teacher, should have kept it in his classroom
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:52 AM
Sep 2015

It's not the kid made it, or that he's smart, it's that it was in his bag. You can't do that. It's not like kids haven't done stuff with weapons at school before.

Now, suspending him after everything was figured out is dumb. Even the handcuffs are too much. Take him to the principal's office and figure it out.

The clock shouldn't have been in the bag though. Just leave it with the engineering teacher, and get it when the day is done.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
36. Possibly. Life can suck.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:33 AM
Sep 2015

Doesn't change anything though. It's stupid to suspend him after everything was figured out, and he shouldn't have had something like that in his bag unannounced. Nobody is expecting a homemade clock in a backpack.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
40. Because people?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:20 PM
Sep 2015

Everything that was done to the kid after the clock went off is most likely an overreaction. Definitely the suspension, which is dumb. Arresting him is going too far. Take him to the office if need be, figure it out.

Nonetheless, there's little reason to put yourself in a position for people to think you have a weapon of some kind. Yes, him being Muslim probably enters into the overreaction. That sucks. Still, bad shit has happened at schools. Who knows. It's not like kids haven't wanted to use a bomb of some sort before, and teachers not trained in anything but the subject they're teaching may not stop and think in the moment.

So take the clock to the teacher you wanted to show it to, leave it there, and get it at the end of the day. Don't stick it in your bag if it might go off because you actually made a working clock at home. Hell, proudly display it on your desk. Basically do anything but make it look like you're hiding it.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
44. Bullshit. He brought it to school. Does the school have a 'no clocks' policy? No? Then buh-bye.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:43 PM
Sep 2015

I have bag full of fucks that I give out. Oh wait, it's empty.

liberal N proud

(60,331 posts)
26. This kid is dangerous to the status quo
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:59 AM
Sep 2015

If he is smart enough to build an electronic clock, he might just create something that would change the world without the big corporations and we can't have that.



dhill926

(16,298 posts)
27. and after all this, they still suspended him?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:02 AM
Sep 2015

what a depressingly stupid and scared country we have become...

HeartoftheMidwest

(309 posts)
33. On the other hand......................
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:19 AM
Sep 2015

...once this stupid move by the school plays out in court, I suspect this bright young man will have his entire schooling at a top engineering college paid in full.

May he go on to bigger and better things.

whathehell

(29,023 posts)
34. Texas is NOT representative of America as a whole..Even their tourism ads admit that
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:20 AM
Sep 2015

they are "a whole other country".

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
35. I'd hate to see what they would have done to him
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:22 AM
Sep 2015

if he boarded a plane with that clock in the cargo hold. Seems America hasn't gotten over its islamophopia yet.

Given our heritage I don't think we ever will.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
37. Islamophobia is the least of the souths problem. Whites are still afraid of American Indians
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:35 AM
Sep 2015

scalping the whites and black men raping the white women.

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