Climate Change vs: Population Growth

[FreakinDJ]

Does anyone think we can reduce one without controling the other

[randome]

1. Not unless we want to give up every modern convenience we have. Which means 'no'.

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[FreakinDJ]

2. Which still means a significant population reduction

Because we could not feed everyone without mechanized farming

Nor refrigerated storage

Nor mechanized transport

[Baclava]

3. Which people do you think we should kill off first? Africans? The Chinese?

Mandatory sterilization for everyone? Who picks the breeders? Will there be a lottery?

so many questions

[whatthehey]

5. Who will die off first if we don't make changes?

Will they be any more or less dead?

[Baclava]

7. How about legalizing cannibalism? You want mass population control, now there's a tasty option.

So where do they come from?... the millions/billions to be culled from the herd?

[whatthehey]

8. Well it's possible without that if you can think past the histrionics

People die naturally. If we stop replacing them we could make a huge non-anthropophagous difference. Ol' Frankie Photo-Op could issue an ex-cathedra supporting family planning tomorrow which would be a major help for a start. We could override the zygote-worshipping RWNJs and start incentivizing reproductive choice with free contraceptives available nationwide, free abortion providers in each county at least and yes up to (voluntary, but paid) sterilizations. We could stop the primitivist taboo against suicide and offer free, painless, at will euthanasia. We could stop giving tax breaks and start charging tax penalties for kids beyond the first.

That's population alone. Let's get serious about solar, wind, geothermal, LEED mandates, EVs, real public transit, carbon penalties etc and we'd make a nice dent.

[smirkymonkey]

12. +1000

[FreakinDJ]

13. So "Responcible" bringing children into a world just to starve to death

Kudoos to your right to allow them a slow painful death

Honestly - as this planet warms up - Who do you trust to administer the dwindling food and water supply

And who do you think will end up administering that food and water supply

[handmade34]

4. possible

without capitalism

[The2ndWheel]

6. It's not just population growth

That's one symptom of the bigger picture, which is the success of humanity.

Plus it's not even climate change. What is our plan to fight climate change? Our plan is to change the climate.

Another off shoot of our success, is our want to, as you say, control what happens. Unfortunately we can't take every variable into account, so our attempts to control life will always come up short, because something will always go wrong, because life is too complex.

[jwirr]

11. I think we should add the use of resources. Developed

countries use a lot more per capita resources than poorer countries. Maybe all these ideas should start with us.

[SidDithers]

9. Pope Frankie does...nt

Sid

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Serious answer

population will stabilize and start to go back down at most by mid century and the 1 child policy did a lot of damage to the Chinese population for example.

Serious answer, this is coming via the UN. Also per the UN within 10 years India will replace China as the most populous nation. The key to all this us....drum roll education and even basic medical care like vaccines.