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applegrove

(118,600 posts)
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 06:57 PM Sep 2015

Is Trump too honest for the GOP? He’s actually challenging Republican fantasies — but it could spell

Is Trump too honest for the GOP? He’s actually challenging Republican fantasies — but it could spell trouble

by Simon Maloy at Salon

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/17/is_trump_too_honest_for_the_gop_hes_actually_challenging_republican_fantasies_but_it_could_spell_trouble/

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One thing I’ll say to Ben is that we’ve had a graduated tax system for many years, so it’s not a socialistic thing. What I’d like to do, and I’ll be putting in the plan in about two weeks, and I think people are going to like it, it’s a major reduction in taxes. It’s a major reduction for the middle class. The hedge fund guys won’t like me as much as they like me right now. I know them all, but they’ll pay more.

I know people that are making a tremendous amount of money and paying virtually no tax, and I think it’s unfair.


That answer was a direct challenge to many of the other candidates in the race, who have proposed plans that either completely flatten the tax code or skew it more in favor of the wealthy. So much of Republican and conservative economic policy is premised on the idea that the tax code is unfair to high earners, who need more money so that they can create jobs for normal people, and Trump said that way of thinking is indefensible.

On national security, Trump went even bigger, having the temerity to suggest that George W. Bush’s eight years of bumbling mishaps and misguided invasions are the root cause of all instability in the Middle East. “Your brother — and your brother’s administration gave us Barack Obama, because it was such a disaster, those last three months, that Abraham Lincoln couldn’t have been elected,” Trump shot at Jeb.
“You know what?” Jeb said in response. “As it relates to my brother, there’s one thing I know for sure. He kept us safe.” Trump fired back: “I don’t know. You feel safe right now? I don’t feel so safe.” At that point, Scott Walker joined the conversation to defend Jeb and his brother. “It’s not because of George W. Bush; it’s because of Barack Obama,” he said to applause from the audience.

The idea that George W. Bush’s foreign policy was ultimately a success is a fiction Republicans and conservatives tell themselves in order to keep faith in the “Bush Doctrine” or the “Freedom Agenda” or whatever the hell they’re calling the “invade and/or bomb everyone everywhere” strain of foreign policy thought. For the foreign policies of Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Marco Rubio, and Lindsey Graham to make even the slightest bit of sense, you have to start from the premise that The Surge in Iraq fixed all the problems in the country after years of bloody sectarian violence and political intransigence. Then you have to convince yourself that the rise of the Islamic state and the attendant destabilization of the region are the fault of Obama for not forcing the Iraqis to agree to a residual force of few thousand U.S. troops. Trump challenged those fictions, causing the establishment candidates to huff in disagreement.



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Is Trump too honest for the GOP? He’s actually challenging Republican fantasies — but it could spell (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2015 OP
Trump is schooling the GOP base in how to think outside the bubble. Go Trump! applegrove Sep 2015 #1
They know they have to speak Berniese in order to win I and swing votes. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #2
It's funny how Trump can say anything at all - and they still like him. Chemisse Sep 2015 #3

Chemisse

(30,807 posts)
3. It's funny how Trump can say anything at all - and they still like him.
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 07:31 PM
Sep 2015

And they don't even seem to realize he is veering away from the Reagan Bible.

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