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LiberalArkie

(15,708 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 06:05 PM Sep 2015

Desperate Elephants Shot With Poison Arrows Travel To Humans For Help

Last month, a wild elephant and two of his friends were attacked by poachers. Wounded by poisoned arrows, they trudged across the African landscape to the one place that could help them: the David Sheldrick Wildlife Trust (DSWT).

Though the wild elephant had never been a resident at DSWT, he knew elephants who had. He had mated with two former orphans who were raised at DSWT's Ithumba Reintegration Centre, who now lead their own wild herd. In 2011, he fathered babies with them, whom DSWT named Mwende and Yetu.

And DSWT is certain he knew this group of humans meant help.



"We are sure that Mwende's father knew that if they returned to the stockades they would get the help and treatment they needed because this continuously happens with the injured bulls in the north; they all come to Ithumba when in need, understanding that there they can be helped," DWST wrote.

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Desperate Elephants Shot With Poison Arrows Travel To Humans For Help (Original Post) LiberalArkie Sep 2015 OP
I'm wondering if elephants are capable of communicating relatively abstract ideas without Cal33 Sep 2015 #1
Elephants have a very sophisticated language. mhatrw Sep 2015 #5
Am glad to know. If dolphins are capable of communicating, this means that their Cal33 Sep 2015 #31
animals have language. just because humans are incapable of discerning it magical thyme Sep 2015 #13
Dolphins have names for each other Glassunion Sep 2015 #40
Nice to know this. Cal33 Sep 2015 #48
Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Sep 2015 #2
Hopefully they will get some help rockfordfile Sep 2015 #3
the elephants were all taken care of. They're cured lunatica Sep 2015 #18
Amazing story. beac Sep 2015 #4
Thanks for the info! cui bono Sep 2015 #17
"Thankfully all their wounds have healed beautifully so they have all made a full recovery," DirkGently Sep 2015 #6
Those elephants will spread the word among other elephants, tblue37 Sep 2015 #8
Elp! reviews? DirkGently Sep 2015 #14
Good one. nt tblue37 Sep 2015 #22
How soon before republicans try to defund the clinics? Glassunion Sep 2015 #43
Looks like these poachers are not part of the powerful poaching rings... Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #7
A herd of elephants can eat an entire field of crops in an evwning AngryAmish Sep 2015 #34
All the smart critters have started coming to humans for help starroute Sep 2015 #9
imagine that dude much much bigger with a beak like a spear roguevalley Sep 2015 #12
I've heard it explained that crows are to ravens ... dougolat Sep 2015 #23
LOL. Blue_In_AK Sep 2015 #37
What are they picking off him? Maraya1969 Sep 2015 #38
David Sheldrick Wildlife Trust (DSWT) - wonderful group and great to follow flamingdem Sep 2015 #10
Glad that they are ok. brer cat Sep 2015 #11
Incredible story. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #15
That's what I was thinking. And dolphins saving humans from drowning. rusty quoin Sep 2015 #29
This is not as exotic but my cat was shot with a be-be gun Maraya1969 Sep 2015 #39
Intuitive, if nothing else! A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #41
He was completely relaxed. Just stayed still until I got it out. Maraya1969 Sep 2015 #45
You're reminding me of a long story about Mr. BB...the dog that is my avatar pic. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #46
Oh. Real elephants. Sorry. DrBulldog Sep 2015 #16
When will we ever learn... wundermaus Sep 2015 #19
Beautifully said. NCarolinawoman Sep 2015 #21
In deed, Life itself requires us to be caretakers and protectors - not despoilers dougolat Sep 2015 #26
Did you write that? arikara Sep 2015 #28
Very nice TuxedoKat Sep 2015 #30
Wow! Great post! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #33
Thank you for your comments regarding my post. wundermaus Oct 2015 #50
kick'd and rec'd lunatica Sep 2015 #20
Fascinating story. ohheckyeah Sep 2015 #24
omg. stop hurting animals for no reason Liberal_in_LA Sep 2015 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Sep 2015 #27
I love these wild elephants. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #32
Consider veganism! retrowire Sep 2015 #35
Beryl Markham, one of the early English settlers of Kenya, had amazing stories about elephants. shrike Sep 2015 #36
For US donors, here's their site to give a tax-deductible donation mainer Sep 2015 #42
Great story! smirkymonkey Sep 2015 #44
Elephants are so amazing. The following story still gives me goosebumps: catbyte Sep 2015 #47
It's too bad the gop is nothing like their mascot. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #49
 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
1. I'm wondering if elephants are capable of communicating relatively abstract ideas without
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 06:18 PM
Sep 2015

a discernible language of any kind. Dolphins, I understand, do have some type of language.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
31. Am glad to know. If dolphins are capable of communicating, this means that their
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 11:07 PM
Sep 2015

brains have a speech center. So why not elephants also? They are among the
most intelligent animals.


















 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
13. animals have language. just because humans are incapable of discerning it
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 07:38 PM
Sep 2015

doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We're just too dense to pick up on their language, never mind understand it.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
40. Dolphins have names for each other
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 02:51 PM
Sep 2015

The top 5 baby names for Dolphins are:
Eee
Ahreee
Eheee
Eaeea
Steve

beac

(9,992 posts)
4. Amazing story.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 06:29 PM
Sep 2015

And the elephants were all treated and lived.*



* (For anyone, like me, who was a little afraid to go to the link b/c it looks like the elephant might be dead in the above pic. He isn't, just sedated and getting care for his wounds. )

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
6. "Thankfully all their wounds have healed beautifully so they have all made a full recovery,"
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 06:37 PM
Sep 2015


... they added.


tblue37

(65,290 posts)
8. Those elephants will spread the word among other elephants,
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 06:47 PM
Sep 2015

so that the kind humans will get a steady stream of elephants looking for treatment, like a clinic set up in an underserved area.

Pretty soon they will start making appointments for annual well-elephant check-ups.

Seriously, though, I bet the word will be spread among elephants in that area.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
7. Looks like these poachers are not part of the powerful poaching rings...
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 06:37 PM
Sep 2015

...which are usually heavily armed with full-auto rifles. Perhaps, also, these poachers are feeling the pressure from armed wardens, and don't want to advertise their presence with gun fire.

With the shrinking back of regulated safari hunts in many African countries, the various governments must take over (and pay for) the eyes and ears to protect wildlife, and cannot depend on the experienced, cost-free safari personnel which in times past were more prevalent.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
34. A herd of elephants can eat an entire field of crops in an evwning
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 09:25 AM
Sep 2015

Elephants are part of the reason human population of Africa was never very high when compared to other regions.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
9. All the smart critters have started coming to humans for help
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 06:48 PM
Sep 2015

Elephants, whales, even ravens. I guess the word is getting around about which humans are the good ones and will help you out.

The slightly less smart ones, of course, just want to steal our cameras -- but they'll catch on eventually.


dougolat

(716 posts)
23. I've heard it explained that crows are to ravens ...
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 09:15 PM
Sep 2015

...as coyotes are to wolves!

The elephant story has added a new element to Utopia:
Walk in, fly in, swim in, slither in vet clinics.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
15. Incredible story.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:24 PM
Sep 2015

I am always amazed at how little credit humans have given animals for having sensibilities way beyond what we think an "animal" might possess.

Stories like this are touching. Similar to video's of Dolphins seeking help from divers when they are ensnared with fishing line, or the famous video of the Humpback whale that was freed from a net and then seemed to thank his human saviours by putting on a twenty minute breaching show!


I'm glad these Elephants had somewhere to go.

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
39. This is not as exotic but my cat was shot with a be-be gun
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 02:49 PM
Sep 2015

He came inside and sat down right next to my foot - I was standing up. I looking down and saw something so I picked him up and into the bathroom where I pulled a be-be out of his cheek.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
41. Intuitive, if nothing else!
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 02:51 PM
Sep 2015

Knew you could help, right?

Was he relaxed or did he struggle at all while you removed it?

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
45. He was completely relaxed. Just stayed still until I got it out.
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 03:30 PM
Sep 2015

Yes, he knew that I would help him.

=================================

Oh and just a couple weeks ago when I came home and into the kitchen from the garage I could hear my one little dog screaming, (a very high pitched howl) , the other met me at the door and did that running and barking and turning around to make sure I was coming all the way over to him. And he was also in his own sort of trouble. He is afraid to jump down from the couch unless there is a wide open space on the ground and I forgot to clear it for him when I went out.

A couple boxes moved, dog on the ground and all is right with the world again.

I just love them all!

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
46. You're reminding me of a long story about Mr. BB...the dog that is my avatar pic.
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 04:14 PM
Sep 2015

I won't post it here, as it would take a while to type out, suffice to say he got SEVERELY injured one time (Fell off a boat I was operating and got hit by the prop) and never let out so much as a whimper, just looked to me for help.

It almost killed him, but he recovered and lived another 7 years

wundermaus

(1,673 posts)
19. When will we ever learn...
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:32 PM
Sep 2015

That we are not the only creatures with a mind, a spirit and a soul.
That the universe is aware of it's existence.
That we are part of a consciousness beyond our own individual existence.
That all life is precious.
That being aware is a responsibility to nurture and protect life.

We are star dust, all living things are.
The elephants are our brothers and sisters.
Every living thing is related.
When you look up into the night sky and see the stars, they are looking back at you.
Peace.

dougolat

(716 posts)
26. In deed, Life itself requires us to be caretakers and protectors - not despoilers
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 09:24 PM
Sep 2015

Enlightened self- interest, if nothing more.
(Ahh, but there is so Much more)

wundermaus

(1,673 posts)
50. Thank you for your comments regarding my post.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 09:28 PM
Oct 2015

Those are my words and my thoughts and my beliefs.
I am honored and humbled to be in your good company.
It is comforting to know we are not alone.

Response to LiberalArkie (Original post)

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
35. Consider veganism!
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 12:51 PM
Sep 2015

They think and feel, just as we do. And no, in my belief, their purpose is not to be our food.

I became vegan because I noticed an internal hypocrisy within my own thinking.

Why do I grant sympathy and emotion to dogs and would volunteer and rescue them, when I wouldn't extend the same courtesy to a more intelligent animal like the pig?

Why would I do anything in my power to stop puppy mills even though I'll likely never stop them, yet even if it's just as futile, I wouldn't care to not support the meat industry?

That's where my belief was rooted from, just an example! and no, I don't expect you to become vegan and no it's not for everyone. But I only ask that everyone possibly, consider it!

shrike

(3,817 posts)
36. Beryl Markham, one of the early English settlers of Kenya, had amazing stories about elephants.
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 12:57 PM
Sep 2015

One herd had it figured out that hunters would prefer to shoot the males because their tusks were bigger. So a large female would feed in the grass, while the hunters would circle, thinking she was a male, and the rest of the herd would flee. Then she'd pull up her head, wag it, as if to say "fooled you," and flee herself.

catbyte

(34,367 posts)
47. Elephants are so amazing. The following story still gives me goosebumps:
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 04:50 PM
Sep 2015
Rescued elephant herds inexplicably gather to mourn South Africa’s “Elephant Whisperer”

For 12 hours, two herds of wild South African elephants slowly made their way through the Zululand bush until they reached the house of late author Lawrence Anthony, the conservationist who had saved their lives.

The formerly violent, rogue elephants, destined to be shot a few years ago as pests, had been rescued and rehabilitated by Anthony, who had grown up in the bush and was known as the “Elephant Whisperer.”

For two days the herds loitered at Anthony’s rural compound on the vast Thula Thula game reserve – to say good-bye to the man they loved. But how did they know he had died March 7?

Known for his unique ability to calm traumatized elephants, Anthony had become a legend. He is the author of three books, Baghdad Ark, detailing his efforts to rescue the animals at Baghdad Zoo during the Iraqi war, the forthcoming The Last Rhinos, and his bestselling The Elephant Whisperer. (Wonderful book, BTW--me)

There are two elephant herds at Thula Thula. According to his son Dylan, both arrived at the Anthony family compound shortly after the author’s death.

“They had not visited the house for a year and a half and it must have taken them about 12 hours to make the journey,” Dylan is quoted in various local news accounts. “The first herd arrived on Sunday and the second herd, a day later. They all hung around for about two days before making their way back into the bush.”

...snip...

Read more at http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/news/2012/03/rescued-wild-elephant-herds-inexplicably-gather-to-mourn-lawrence-anthony-south-africas-elephant-whisperer.php#jmQWbI1Hr8LCrt7d.99
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