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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoes anyone think that person who made the racist comment was a plant by another Republican?
I'm not a Donald Trump fan but I'm starting to suspect that person who made the racist comment about Obama being a Muslim was put up to it by another GOP candidate running for President.
Usually when people speak in public there is a certain level of anxiety and hesitation. This guy seemed very rehearsed and at ease.
It's possible they did this to bring down Trump's poll numbers.
What do you think?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)There are plenty of bigots like that out there. Nobody has to "plant" them.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)This "the guy was a plant" thing popped up quite a bit today despite NO reason for thinking he was.
For shits and giggles, I took a look at FOX to see how they are covering it, and, sure enough... FOX is peddling this nonsense.
panader0
(25,816 posts)But plant or not, what really matters is Trump's response, and he blew it.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)I think that it will backfire and will benefit Trump.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Someone "planted" him there on the entirely slim proposition that he'd get called on in the first place?
There are a lot of people - and they support Trump - who believe that tripe, and there are plenty of people who are perfectly capable of standing up and asking a question.
olddots
(10,237 posts)but he sure is a fucking vegitable .
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)tavernier
(12,375 posts)Anyone have Spill Chuck?
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Please proceed to cast asparagus.
tavernier
(12,375 posts)and we will see what will turnip.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)JI7
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malaise
(268,885 posts)Trump's failure to condemn the lies about the President is why so many people are talking about this
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)He's trying to win Republican primary voters. While the conservative talking heads are praying for a Trump "gaffe," if anything statements like today are MORE likely to get him votes.
We really need to stop thinking traditionally and throw conventional wisdom out the window. Trump's popularity is the end result of decades of anti-intellectualism and pandering to the worst parts of human nature. He is the perfect Republican; he is the pinnacle of the pandered-to demographic.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)... and abject stupidity.
Pisces
(5,599 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)That is like saying it is a "dirty trick" to have someone say that Hillary is female.
Pisces
(5,599 posts)volition, which it could be, then yes it would be what Trump deserves. Trump never talked about education camps etc.
I think the other candidates are sick of the Trump show and they want to bring him down as fast as possible. Using these
tactics does not seem beyond Buch and co. He is the one most affected by Trump because he looks so weak next to him, and scared. Trump manhandles him in every debate.
I think Trump is a train wreck, but he continues to help the Democrats with his wild immigration talk and other nonsense. He
inflames all minority groups against the Repubs. More power to him. They can't win with old white men alone.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)And some on DU sound just like the shitheads on FOX on this topic.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)AlinPA
(15,071 posts)republican question.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)You can't attack Trump like you can a typical politician. His campaign by definition is politically incorrect. He runs on the platform of opposing political correctness.
Therefore failing to correct a guy who says "Obama is a Muslim" won't change the mind of any of his supporters.
That's the odd thing about the Trump phenomenon. Normally a story like this would hurt most candidates. But it may actually help Trump.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)No need to plant a bigot, more than half the audience were bigots.
Skittles
(153,138 posts)he is as stupid as Jeb
840high
(17,196 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Dog shit attracts flies. I don't see a lot of difference in this case.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,831 posts)What his deal was, who he might be working with, I don't know. But his delivery of that tripe was too over the top, intentionally over the top.
ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)the realm for Trump. Only Trump himself could ensure that the actor would be called upon, for the very first question, no less. The actor, like at least one other guy I saw in the audience, was wearing a white T-shirt emblazoned with 'Trump' in big letters.
Trump is a showman, and IMO he got just what he wanted today: free publicity. In addition, how many stories about Fiorina did you see today?
Also, the actor pushed the button for 'birthers' (28 percent of Rs), and for 'Muslimers' (43 percent of Rs).
All in all, a pretty profitable day for a showman who keeps track of the monetary value of all his free publicity.
IMO it's pretty clear it was Trump himself who pulled off the Town Hall publicity stunt. What are we all talking about in this very thread?
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)There are thousands and thousands exactly like him. I run into people like him on a daily basis. Townhall meetings are an excellent place to find them. In Tennessee, we elect people like him to serve in the General Assembly.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)There are people thinking that being able to stand up and ask a question requires some kind of special magic talent.
These dopes are on AM radio call in shows all damned day long.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)and be treated to this kind of lunacy anytime -- and I work with college educated professional engineers.
Some of my wife's family members regularly make statements at least as bigoted as that asshole's.
But the best of all was the morning coffee and biscuits meetings in the construction trailer in Calvert City, Kentucky. Every morning for six months. Awesome stuff.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Same stuff.
Obama bought all the ammo for his secret muslin army.
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)So why shouldn't one of his followers still have one of his beliefs?
Liberal In Texas
(13,542 posts)beyond the realm of possibility.
Stop reading conspiracy into the obvious.
herding cats
(19,558 posts)It's possible, but considering Trumps history it's not the only possibility. It could well have been a true believer/follower. Couldn't it have been?
What I don't get is how it matters. After what has come out of his mouth historically, how is this a thing to his followers?
He is who he is, and what he supports what he does. He's a birther and he's a bigot and racist. His base expects such from him. It's what they love the most about him. Make no mistakes on this. This is how low we've fallen as a nation. Some 40 something percent of their racist have come out of the closet to admit this is what they want.
Yeah, such doesn't sell on a national level. So what? It's still who he's been for years and what he's been branding himself as being for this run for president. It's him, he owns it. Even if he's reluctant to do so now that there's some small semblance of backlash for him being him. This is still who he is and what he has publicly stood behind.
This is the face of the 40+% of the Republican voters out there. We need to keep that in the front of our minds at all times. This is the reality of the people we're up against.
moondust
(19,972 posts)Suspected some GOP or Dem opponent figured he couldn't/wouldn't run from his record of birtherism and bringing it up could do him some damage.
However, there was no way of knowing in advance whom he would call on during a town hall. I suppose it's possible somebody planted more than one operative and told them to wave their arms and yell the loudest and TheRump would naturally call on one of them.
hatrack
(59,583 posts)And you'll find ignorant drunk assholes who can speak with smooth assurance about just what they know regarding:
Obama's birth certificate
The Trilateral Commission
Chemtrails
ZOG
The Illuminati
Teh Gayz
Teh Muslins
Teh Messicans
And they can say whatever warglebargle Trump mouths with the same absolute blazing conviction that They Are Right, and the same freedom from facts the New GOP Hearthrob uses in his . . . "statements".
SummerSnow
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brooklynite
(94,489 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Iggo
(47,547 posts)Just like the rest of them.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
ZX86
(1,428 posts)Just find the guy, interview him, and check out his background. He was on TV after all. Republicans are notoriously sloppy dirty tricksters. If he's a plant he'll be like James O'Keefe's room mate or a Rand Paul staffer or some such nonsense.