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Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:06 PM Sep 2015

Does anyone think that person who made the racist comment was a plant by another Republican?

I'm not a Donald Trump fan but I'm starting to suspect that person who made the racist comment about Obama being a Muslim was put up to it by another GOP candidate running for President.

Usually when people speak in public there is a certain level of anxiety and hesitation. This guy seemed very rehearsed and at ease.

It's possible they did this to bring down Trump's poll numbers.

What do you think?

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Does anyone think that person who made the racist comment was a plant by another Republican? (Original Post) Tony_FLADEM Sep 2015 OP
No pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #1
You know what's funny jberryhill Sep 2015 #16
Agreed panader0 Sep 2015 #24
I do think that, he didn't seem real to me virtualobserver Sep 2015 #2
Okay, so... jberryhill Sep 2015 #3
he may not be a plant olddots Sep 2015 #4
Win shenmue Sep 2015 #5
Who knew that vegatables could be racist! madinmaryland Sep 2015 #13
To be fair, some do play favarites pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #18
Green beans, Lima Beans, or Pinto Beans???? madinmaryland Sep 2015 #19
Really? Vegitable? Vegatable? tavernier Sep 2015 #25
No chuck allowed--this is a veretable vegitable subthread! pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #27
Well then, lettuce proceed tavernier Sep 2015 #31
Hey call any vegetable and the chances are the vegetable will respond Person 2713 Sep 2015 #33
!!! nt artislife Sep 2015 #38
DUZY award! leftofcool Sep 2015 #52
these days it's hard to tell a difference JI7 Sep 2015 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Sep 2015 #7
It doesn't matter malaise Sep 2015 #8
I think the opposite: more likely Trump campaign planted him Nevernose Sep 2015 #9
"He is profiting from and encouraging some very dark forces within the Republican base." pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #20
No, sadly the lunatics that support that sleaze love and embrace racist thought ... etherealtruth Sep 2015 #10
That is a Rovian dirty trick. Look to Bush and friends for that stunt. Pisces Sep 2015 #11
In what imaginable way is it a "dirty trick" to repeat Trump's OWN statements? jberryhill Sep 2015 #35
Putting a plant in the audience to embarrass or stump you is a trick. If this were of this guys own Pisces Sep 2015 #53
The shitheads on FOX think so jberryhill Sep 2015 #12
Indeed pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #14
No, he is just a typical republican with a typical republican statement asking a typical AlinPA Sep 2015 #15
Exactly. We don't need to find an excuse for this level of stupid. L. Coyote Sep 2015 #28
If so, nothing seems to stick to Trump. So it's poor strategy. davidn3600 Sep 2015 #17
54% of all Trump supporters believe this shit. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #21
Donald should have anticipated that nutcase question, and prepared for a response Skittles Sep 2015 #22
Yes - very possible. Too convenient. 840high Sep 2015 #23
Could be. And they knew Trump was too dumb to be able to give a good response. nt kelliekat44 Sep 2015 #26
No customerserviceguy Sep 2015 #29
I'm pretty convinced he was a phony. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2015 #30
PUBLICITY is coin of ProgressiveEconomist Sep 2015 #32
No. He was confident and comfortable in his ignorance. cheapdate Sep 2015 #34
Seriously jberryhill Sep 2015 #36
I can drop into any one of several of the offices in our suite cheapdate Sep 2015 #37
Vast stretches of PA, NJ and lower DE... jberryhill Sep 2015 #50
Trump himself seemed to believe this in 2011 NobodyHere Sep 2015 #39
Not at all. There are enough of these brainwashed idiots running around that one popping up isn't Liberal In Texas Sep 2015 #40
What would it matter? herding cats Sep 2015 #41
Thought so at first. moondust Sep 2015 #42
Not buying it - go to any small-town bar anywhere in America . . . hatrack Sep 2015 #43
No plant needed for those who embrace Trump SummerSnow Sep 2015 #44
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #45
Does anyone think that unsubstantiated conspiracy theories belong in CREATIVE SPECULATION? brooklynite Sep 2015 #46
+1 n/t tammywammy Sep 2015 #48
Nicely put jberryhill Sep 2015 #49
No, I think that was a standard ignorant republican racist. Iggo Sep 2015 #47
His supporters are just that stoopid liberal N proud Sep 2015 #51
No everything he said was 'normal' to them AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #54
This mystery is easily solved. ZX86 Sep 2015 #55
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
16. You know what's funny
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 09:10 PM
Sep 2015

This "the guy was a plant" thing popped up quite a bit today despite NO reason for thinking he was.

For shits and giggles, I took a look at FOX to see how they are covering it, and, sure enough... FOX is peddling this nonsense.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Okay, so...
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:12 PM
Sep 2015

Someone "planted" him there on the entirely slim proposition that he'd get called on in the first place?

There are a lot of people - and they support Trump - who believe that tripe, and there are plenty of people who are perfectly capable of standing up and asking a question.

Response to Tony_FLADEM (Original post)

malaise

(268,885 posts)
8. It doesn't matter
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:18 PM
Sep 2015

Trump's failure to condemn the lies about the President is why so many people are talking about this

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
9. I think the opposite: more likely Trump campaign planted him
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:22 PM
Sep 2015

He's trying to win Republican primary voters. While the conservative talking heads are praying for a Trump "gaffe," if anything statements like today are MORE likely to get him votes.

We really need to stop thinking traditionally and throw conventional wisdom out the window. Trump's popularity is the end result of decades of anti-intellectualism and pandering to the worst parts of human nature. He is the perfect Republican; he is the pinnacle of the pandered-to demographic.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
20. "He is profiting from and encouraging some very dark forces within the Republican base."
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 09:35 PM
Sep 2015
--Fareed Zakaria, CNN

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
10. No, sadly the lunatics that support that sleaze love and embrace racist thought ...
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:24 PM
Sep 2015

... and abject stupidity.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
35. In what imaginable way is it a "dirty trick" to repeat Trump's OWN statements?
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 11:34 PM
Sep 2015

That is like saying it is a "dirty trick" to have someone say that Hillary is female.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
53. Putting a plant in the audience to embarrass or stump you is a trick. If this were of this guys own
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 12:04 PM
Sep 2015

volition, which it could be, then yes it would be what Trump deserves. Trump never talked about education camps etc.
I think the other candidates are sick of the Trump show and they want to bring him down as fast as possible. Using these
tactics does not seem beyond Buch and co. He is the one most affected by Trump because he looks so weak next to him, and scared. Trump manhandles him in every debate.

I think Trump is a train wreck, but he continues to help the Democrats with his wild immigration talk and other nonsense. He
inflames all minority groups against the Repubs. More power to him. They can't win with old white men alone.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
15. No, he is just a typical republican with a typical republican statement asking a typical
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 09:08 PM
Sep 2015

republican question.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
17. If so, nothing seems to stick to Trump. So it's poor strategy.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 09:16 PM
Sep 2015

You can't attack Trump like you can a typical politician. His campaign by definition is politically incorrect. He runs on the platform of opposing political correctness.

Therefore failing to correct a guy who says "Obama is a Muslim" won't change the mind of any of his supporters.

That's the odd thing about the Trump phenomenon. Normally a story like this would hurt most candidates. But it may actually help Trump.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
21. 54% of all Trump supporters believe this shit.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 09:43 PM
Sep 2015

No need to plant a bigot, more than half the audience were bigots.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
22. Donald should have anticipated that nutcase question, and prepared for a response
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 09:47 PM
Sep 2015

he is as stupid as Jeb

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,831 posts)
30. I'm pretty convinced he was a phony.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 10:11 PM
Sep 2015

What his deal was, who he might be working with, I don't know. But his delivery of that tripe was too over the top, intentionally over the top.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
32. PUBLICITY is coin of
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 10:34 PM
Sep 2015

the realm for Trump. Only Trump himself could ensure that the actor would be called upon, for the very first question, no less. The actor, like at least one other guy I saw in the audience, was wearing a white T-shirt emblazoned with 'Trump' in big letters.

Trump is a showman, and IMO he got just what he wanted today: free publicity. In addition, how many stories about Fiorina did you see today?

Also, the actor pushed the button for 'birthers' (28 percent of Rs), and for 'Muslimers' (43 percent of Rs).

All in all, a pretty profitable day for a showman who keeps track of the monetary value of all his free publicity.

IMO it's pretty clear it was Trump himself who pulled off the Town Hall publicity stunt. What are we all talking about in this very thread?

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
34. No. He was confident and comfortable in his ignorance.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 11:30 PM
Sep 2015

There are thousands and thousands exactly like him. I run into people like him on a daily basis. Townhall meetings are an excellent place to find them. In Tennessee, we elect people like him to serve in the General Assembly.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
36. Seriously
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 11:36 PM
Sep 2015

There are people thinking that being able to stand up and ask a question requires some kind of special magic talent.

These dopes are on AM radio call in shows all damned day long.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
37. I can drop into any one of several of the offices in our suite
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 11:53 PM
Sep 2015

and be treated to this kind of lunacy anytime -- and I work with college educated professional engineers.

Some of my wife's family members regularly make statements at least as bigoted as that asshole's.

But the best of all was the morning coffee and biscuits meetings in the construction trailer in Calvert City, Kentucky. Every morning for six months. Awesome stuff.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
50. Vast stretches of PA, NJ and lower DE...
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 07:17 AM
Sep 2015

Same stuff.

Obama bought all the ammo for his secret muslin army.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
39. Trump himself seemed to believe this in 2011
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 12:00 AM
Sep 2015

So why shouldn't one of his followers still have one of his beliefs?

Liberal In Texas

(13,542 posts)
40. Not at all. There are enough of these brainwashed idiots running around that one popping up isn't
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 12:07 AM
Sep 2015

beyond the realm of possibility.

Stop reading conspiracy into the obvious.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
41. What would it matter?
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 12:23 AM
Sep 2015

It's possible, but considering Trumps history it's not the only possibility. It could well have been a true believer/follower. Couldn't it have been?

What I don't get is how it matters. After what has come out of his mouth historically, how is this a thing to his followers?

He is who he is, and what he supports what he does. He's a birther and he's a bigot and racist. His base expects such from him. It's what they love the most about him. Make no mistakes on this. This is how low we've fallen as a nation. Some 40 something percent of their racist have come out of the closet to admit this is what they want.

Yeah, such doesn't sell on a national level. So what? It's still who he's been for years and what he's been branding himself as being for this run for president. It's him, he owns it. Even if he's reluctant to do so now that there's some small semblance of backlash for him being him. This is still who he is and what he has publicly stood behind.

This is the face of the 40+% of the Republican voters out there. We need to keep that in the front of our minds at all times. This is the reality of the people we're up against.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
42. Thought so at first.
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 12:51 AM
Sep 2015

Suspected some GOP or Dem opponent figured he couldn't/wouldn't run from his record of birtherism and bringing it up could do him some damage.

However, there was no way of knowing in advance whom he would call on during a town hall. I suppose it's possible somebody planted more than one operative and told them to wave their arms and yell the loudest and TheRump would naturally call on one of them.

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
43. Not buying it - go to any small-town bar anywhere in America . . .
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 12:55 AM
Sep 2015

And you'll find ignorant drunk assholes who can speak with smooth assurance about just what they know regarding:

Obama's birth certificate

The Trilateral Commission

Chemtrails

ZOG

The Illuminati

Teh Gayz

Teh Muslins

Teh Messicans

And they can say whatever warglebargle Trump mouths with the same absolute blazing conviction that They Are Right, and the same freedom from facts the New GOP Hearthrob uses in his . . . "statements".

Response to Tony_FLADEM (Original post)

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
55. This mystery is easily solved.
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 12:13 PM
Sep 2015

Just find the guy, interview him, and check out his background. He was on TV after all. Republicans are notoriously sloppy dirty tricksters. If he's a plant he'll be like James O'Keefe's room mate or a Rand Paul staffer or some such nonsense.

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