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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 07:53 AM Sep 2015

Democrat Files Bill To Take Away Pay From All Congressmen Who Shut Down Government

Works for me!

http://www.occupydemocrats.com/democrat-files-bill-to-take-away-pay-from-all-congressmen-who-shut-down-government-4/

Democrat Files Bill To Take Away Pay From All Congressmen Who Shut Down Government
by Colin Taylor • September 18, 2015


As Congress gears up for yet another government shutdown battle, and Tea Party Republicans attempt to defund Planned Parenthood and take away reproductive healthcare from 630,000 Americans, one Congressman is fed up. Rep. Nick Nolan (D-MIN) has just introduced a bill, the ‘‘No Government, No Pay Act of 2015’,’ to prevent members of Congress from getting paid if they shut down the government again.

“It’s time to put an end to government by crisis management. And it’s time for Congress to start living in the real world — where you either do your job — or you don’t get paid. If hundreds of thousands of other federal employees are to go without their salaries — twisting slowly in the wind in a government shutdown — then the Congress should not be paid either” said Nolan in a statement.


Nolan introduced a similar bill during the last shutdown, and donates his shutdown pay to charities in his district. His actions send a strong message to the rest of Congress. The constant re-fighting of political battles and the brinkmanship that the Republican-led Congress has established as business as usual is a huge embarrassment to our country and a dire indictment of our political system. Congress’s 15% approval rating is evidence enough. There are huge issues facing our nation, but the right-wing insists on wasting our time on social issues that the majority of Americans aren’t concerned about. It’s far beyond time our legislators began behaving like rational adults and actually sit down to govern.
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Democrat Files Bill To Take Away Pay From All Congressmen Who Shut Down Government (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2015 OP
Should be unpaid positions, cover expenses/healthcare and nothing more. require a 5 day week work. Sunlei Sep 2015 #1
really dsc Sep 2015 #14
people who want to 'place Americans first', instead of using their Gov. job to let Corps be first. Sunlei Sep 2015 #15
To name one person who likely wouldn't be in Congress under this system dsc Sep 2015 #16
Senator Sanders is one of the few top flight Senators America has had. It's a shame people haven't Sunlei Sep 2015 #20
well just how would you expect him to eat dsc Sep 2015 #21
All 'expenses' are paid for our gov 'Leaders'. They don't pay anything out of their base salary. Sunlei Sep 2015 #22
sorry I was taking expenses to mean healthcare dsc Sep 2015 #23
My expenses include 4 brand-new Teslas jeff47 Sep 2015 #26
They're all millionaires. It won't affect them. Atman Sep 2015 #2
Maybe so, but I bet they wouldn't 'work' for nothing. nt babylonsister Sep 2015 #3
They don't work anyway. Atman Sep 2015 #5
Not only that but if it does shut down, it doesn't stop the money from going to Planned Parenthood EV_Ares Sep 2015 #11
Fined is a good idea. Fine all of them $1000 a day for every day the government is shutdown. A Simple Game Sep 2015 #17
I'm gonna guess that bill won't pass. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #4
Any vote to shut down the government should be accompanied by a resignation. Scuba Sep 2015 #6
I agree. It should never happen. LuvNewcastle Sep 2015 #8
all pay should be donated to planned parenthood..n/t BlueCollar Sep 2015 #7
RICK Nolan. mac56 Sep 2015 #9
What a useless gesture. Action_Patrol Sep 2015 #10
+ struggle4progress Sep 2015 #31
It's about time! Omaha Steve Sep 2015 #12
It's not "Republican-led Congress..." pangaia Sep 2015 #13
If they earned their $$ from a paycheck, that might have an effect. eom NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #18
I'm all fer it. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #19
Cute gimmick for someone with a conscience. That won't effect the house GOP: lindysalsagal Sep 2015 #24
What? Make them accountable? lpbk2713 Sep 2015 #25
If only it could be accomplished with an executive order? Purveyor Sep 2015 #27
Yes! oldandhappy Sep 2015 #28
Glad it is being introduced, but we all know it won't go anywhere davidpdx Sep 2015 #29
Ahem.... what about congresswomen??? cui bono Sep 2015 #30

dsc

(52,160 posts)
14. really
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 10:19 AM
Sep 2015

I would presume you don't like the fact that Congress is rich just whom do you think would serve under that system?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
15. people who want to 'place Americans first', instead of using their Gov. job to let Corps be first.
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 10:32 AM
Sep 2015

you presume wrong, I don't mind 'rich' people at all.

dsc

(52,160 posts)
16. To name one person who likely wouldn't be in Congress under this system
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 10:40 AM
Sep 2015

is Sanders. Given his current net worth there is no way he could have afforded 20 years with no salary.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
20. Senator Sanders is one of the few top flight Senators America has had. It's a shame people haven't
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 11:25 AM
Sep 2015

paid much attention to what he had to say over the past decades. I don't think he wanted to be elected for the paycheck or the cushie contacts for personal wealthbuilding

America would be a very different better place today if 'the people' & other elected, listened to Sanders years ago.

dsc

(52,160 posts)
21. well just how would you expect him to eat
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 11:30 AM
Sep 2015

He has had a six figure salary for 20 years and has a net worth of a bit over 300k exclusive of his house or houses (I don't know if he bought in DC or rents in DC). That leads me to believe he actually needed a goodly portion of that salary to eat, put a roof over his head, pay his heating bill, etc. Under you system he would get no money at all to do those things. And he isn't the only example, he just is one in the news now.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
22. All 'expenses' are paid for our gov 'Leaders'. They don't pay anything out of their base salary.
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 11:41 AM
Sep 2015

Except normal base taxes everyone pays who has enough 'income' to file yearly with the IRS.

dsc

(52,160 posts)
23. sorry I was taking expenses to mean healthcare
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 11:46 AM
Sep 2015

but that still leaves things like college education for his kids.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
26. My expenses include 4 brand-new Teslas
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 10:35 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Sun Sep 20, 2015, 04:54 PM - Edit history (1)

a Gulfstream V, and a yacht. Oh, don't forget the multiple houses I'll need the government to buy for me.

Your idea is not a good idea.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
2. They're all millionaires. It won't affect them.
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 08:11 AM
Sep 2015

Hate to say it, but the grandstanding sobs should get heavily fined. A shutdown will only last a short time, then they'll get paid anyway. No BMW payments will be missed, no spawn kicked out of prep school for missing tuition, no dinners at The Four Seasons cancelled.

It's a nice, but totally symbolic, gesture.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
11. Not only that but if it does shut down, it doesn't stop the money from going to Planned Parenthood
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 09:11 AM
Sep 2015

anyway as it will still come from Medicaid. Their ignorance & hate is such they don't even see through all the good & the necessity of Planned Parenthood for those they serve.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
17. Fined is a good idea. Fine all of them $1000 a day for every day the government is shutdown.
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 10:46 AM
Sep 2015

All fines to be used to pay down the national debt. Over half a million per day, not bad, and don't forget weekends, many if not most people have to work weekends.

Punish the people that refuse to do their job and reduce national debt, win win, how could the Republicans be against that?

Hurt them in the pocketbook just like they seem to want to hurt us in the pocketbook.

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
10. What a useless gesture.
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 09:06 AM
Sep 2015

It's unconstitutional. This is a show and a waste of time.
I don't disagree with the concept but it is pointless.

struggle4progress

(118,281 posts)
31. +
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:07 AM
Sep 2015

27th Amendment: No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

lindysalsagal

(20,679 posts)
24. Cute gimmick for someone with a conscience. That won't effect the house GOP:
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 10:10 PM
Sep 2015

They'll always be willing to destroy america for their b.s. ideology. They're shameless.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
29. Glad it is being introduced, but we all know it won't go anywhere
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 12:25 AM
Sep 2015

The sponsors would have to get quite a few Republicans on board in both the House and Senate and then get the leadership to allow a vote. The day Congress starts acting like rational adults, I'll run around city hall naked.

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