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HomerRamone

(1,112 posts)
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 01:03 PM Sep 2015

Krugman: G.O.P. LIES

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/18/opinion/paul-krugman-fantasies-and-fictions-at-gop-debate.html

You’re probably tired of hearing this, but modern G.O.P. economic discourse is completely dominated by an economic doctrine — the sovereign importance of low taxes on the rich — that has failed completely and utterly in practice over the past generation...

If the discussion of economics was alarming, the discussion of foreign policy was practically demented. Almost all the candidates seem to believe that American military strength can shock-and-awe other countries into doing what we want without any need for negotiations, and that we shouldn’t even talk with foreign leaders we don’t like. No dinners for Xi Jinping! And, of course, no deal with Iran, because resorting to force in Iraq went so well...

The real revelation on Wednesday, however, was the way some of the candidates went beyond expounding bad analysis and peddling bad history to making outright false assertions, and probably doing so knowingly, which turns those false assertions into what are technically known as “lies.”...

I began writing for The Times during the 2000 election campaign, and what I remember above all from that campaign is the way the conventions of “evenhanded” reporting allowed then-candidate George W. Bush to make clearly false assertions — about his tax cuts, about Social Security — without paying any price. As I wrote at the time, if Mr. Bush said the earth was flat, we’d see headlines along the lines of “Shape of the Planet: Both Sides Have a Point.”

Now we have presidential candidates who make Mr. Bush look like Abe Lincoln. But who will tell the people?
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Krugman: G.O.P. LIES (Original Post) HomerRamone Sep 2015 OP
K&R n/t 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #1
"But who will tell the people?" That's the part that 'causes me to 1. Bang-head-against-wall 2. Cry BlueJazz Sep 2015 #2
Even my Republican neighbors are embarrassed, now. dougolat Sep 2015 #3
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #4
That really should be the last straw malaise Sep 2015 #8
We need more truth tellers passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #5
K&R Electric Monk Sep 2015 #6
The plutocracy which rules the U.S. government owns the media tabasco Sep 2015 #7
Feel the Bern! roscoeroscoe Sep 2015 #9

dougolat

(716 posts)
3. Even my Republican neighbors are embarrassed, now.
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 02:53 PM
Sep 2015

Bravado is all that's left, and apparently it doesn't feel as good as they're used to!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
4. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 03:17 PM
Sep 2015

Republicans have been lying for decades and usually with no Democratic Party challenge.

Because the lies were never challenged the dishonesty grew and grew until it has become an enormous house of cards.

The Jeb Bush assertion that Dubya kept us safe should be chased all over the media until we make him cry.

Do you hear me, people!

malaise

(268,913 posts)
8. That really should be the last straw
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 04:59 PM
Sep 2015

Last night said that Dumbya shouldn't be blamed because he was only in charge for eight months.
I found that hilarious. He didn't address that 'kept us safe part'.
9/11 happened during the Bush and Cheney tenure - nothing will change that fact.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
7. The plutocracy which rules the U.S. government owns the media
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 04:52 PM
Sep 2015

That's our big problem. Propaganda works.

roscoeroscoe

(1,369 posts)
9. Feel the Bern!
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 12:07 AM
Sep 2015

It helps a lot that Bernie took up the challenge. Gee, if we had Democratic Party debates right now there would be some solid push back on the airwaves

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