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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDrug Goes From $13.50 a tablet to $750.00 Overnight
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/business/a-huge-overnight-increase-in-a-drugs-price-raises-protests.htmlSo now we have hedgefund managers doing to medicines what people like Romney did with businesses. Sickening!!
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)15 recs and counting
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Thanks for adding nothing to the discussion though.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)I guess it is time for me to consider quitting this place. Obviously I add nothing of value.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)..other DUer's crawl your ass.
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)It DID add the nasty feeling a poster gets when they realize someone is being an utter ass towards them. Why would you do that? Do you enjoy saying mean things to people?
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Skittles
(153,104 posts)thanks for posting
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uppityperson
(115,677 posts)clicking on the link. I really appreciate your taking time to add the link to the other thread.
brer cat
(24,513 posts)I don't go to the NYT paywall based on little information.
This is becoming a common problem. Big pharma is pricing too many people out of any hope of getting meds. I have a fairly good drug plan with medicare but I recently ordered a drug from Canada because it was too expensive here. My doctor was livid when I told him what it cost because it is an old drug and he is sure it costs pennies to produce.
My problems are minor. I can't imagine having a serious, life-threatening illness that can only be managed by drugs that would bankrupt anyone other than top earners. Sad situation.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)Naturally, insurance doesn't pay for veterinary scrips, and the price of his particular insulin, the one that works best for him, has tripled in a few years' time, and it was pretty damned expensive to begin with. I could buy it then because his dose is so small that one vial lasts a long time. Now I really can't afford it.
And never mind my diabetic cat. If he ever gets to where I can't control his blood sugar, his organs are being damaged, and he's feeling rotten all the time, I'll take him in to be put to sleep. What about all the PEOPLE for whom this particular insulin product is the best choice? What about them? They need a lot more of it than my cat does, and they're just fucked if their insurance doesn't cover it, or if their co-pay is high.
Last month I got some from diabetic person who has changed to a different insulin and had some of this on hand that she couldn't use. That works for me because of my cat's tiny dose, her one month's supply might last a couple of years for him. A person who uses much more of it every day can't really depend on finding that kind of source often enough to meet their needs.
brer cat
(24,513 posts)for your cat's meds. People whose life depends on prohibitively expensive drugs are often left with few or no choices. That is really a screwed up situation.
freeplessinseattle
(3,508 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)This is too important to miss, IMO.
freeplessinseattle
(3,508 posts)And more worthwhile than a lot of OPs! (Esp in lbn these days)
Matariki
(18,775 posts)unfortunately does not work on the parasitic infection that purchased the company that makes it.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)I think people like that should be charged for oxygen.
Initech
(100,027 posts)TBF
(31,999 posts)is not in bed with the bankers. This crap needs to stop.
Omaha Steve
(99,486 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)I work in healthcare, and I've heard every excuse from Republican colleagues. . . ."We have to spend that money to develop new drugs. . . ." ya da ya da ya da. . . . All lies. . . .
It was Smirky Fuck (GWB) himsellf who came up with the bright idea of not allowing the Federal Government to negotiate drug prices with pharmaceuticals for Medicare/Medicaid. . . .
THAT is one of the PRIME reasons it's good to have a government helping out. It's for JUST that reason alone that citizens are protected from being gouged by greedy ass speculators for HEALTHCARE.
Makes me want to VOMIT. . . .
On edit: Smirky Fuck approved it, but I'm sure his stupid ass wasn't smart enough to come up with the idea; it was his HANDLERS who did.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)Like drag that former hedge manager into a alley and beat his face in with an axe. Not that I would do it but I'm certainly capable of doing it.
struggle4progress
(118,211 posts)I got an antibiotic prescription with medical instructions not to fill it unless the infection persisted four or five days
At the time the prescription was written, the cited cost was about $4
Five days later, when I went to fill it, I was told the price had been hiked to $350
I went back to the doc and got a different prescription
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Thanks for posting
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)A couple of her meds that were name brand, went generic. She was so excited, thinking that she was going to be able to stop worrying herself sick over these pills.
Well...nope! The co-pay on the generics was HIGHER than on the name brand...and then the name brand was moved to a highest tier and no longer "covered" by her Medicare plan.
Between the Medicare insurance company monopolies in many states and pharma...well, just die quickly.
We...Need...Bernie!
fingrin
(120 posts)wants to do to New Zealand. Remove the Governments power to negotiate for cheaper drugs.
djean111
(14,255 posts)be fooled or bullied into signing these things. I think there is something in the agreements that lets Pharma dictate formularies to countries. Have to snoop around more for that. The agreements are really between corporations and countries.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)HeartoftheMidwest
(309 posts)..................... TIME TO NATIONALIZE BIG PHARMA.
appalachiablue
(41,102 posts)appalachiablue
(41,102 posts)BERNIE is on top of Big Pharma's plunder increases and continued exploitation of sick people in need.
Hopefully this case will catch his eye or one of his staffers.
Thanks for the news.
Thekaspervote
(32,689 posts)I'd like to wipe the smirk off that young mans face. Wait till he or someone he loves needs those drugs!
You can mail order drugs out of Canada and they are really quite reasonably priced. Don't let those SOBs slow you down. It's really easy to do, and no you are not breaking any laws
Kablooie
(18,605 posts)If they do things like this they deserve to be discontinued.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)and exception for corporations. Some of them just need to die. As Bernie says "If they are too big to fail, they are too big to exist."
KT2000
(20,567 posts)for a month supply. It is now $400. It is a very old drug - generic. It works for me but the doctor told me it doesn't really work even though he has been prescribing it to me for 6 years. He wanted me to quit the drug. I am not sure if I am being treated economically or medically.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)PatrickforO
(14,557 posts)Medicare for all Americans.
Medicare for all Americans!
Medicare for all Americans!!!
FUCK Turing Pharmaceuticals. Those bastards would let people DIE for the sake of a few dollars of profit - blood money, really.
brer cat
(24,513 posts)medicare for all, remember that GWB made sure that medicare couldn't negotiate for lower drug prices. Even with good drug insurance, too many drugs remain prohibitively expensive. Obscene profits, excessive executive compensation, and expensive advertising to consumers drive up the prices charged without adding any value.
PatrickforO
(14,557 posts)When drug costs in other nations are much lower than in ours, then we're being gouged.
brer cat
(24,513 posts)that one of my meds is labeled "manufactured for" US company, but is actually produced in India. I guess once a generic is available even big pharma goes shopping overseas, but of course only after we have been gouged as long as possible.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)kcr
(15,313 posts)That is outrageous
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)closer to the "democratic socialism" of Senator Bernie Sanders than to the perverse pirate "capitalists" that are currently destroying America.
Roosevelt broke up th Great Northern Railroad Trust.
While Eisenhower presided over a thriving entrepreneureal economic system, corporation were held accountable to their workers and their customers, and anti-competitive practice were effectively regulated. CEO's were compensated 20 time the rate of an entre lever worker, and the top tax rate was 91%, rather that being paid hundreds of times the pay of their employers, while many paid a lower tax rate than their secretaries. And America prospered, in start contrast to the stagnation caused by a culture of non-productive pirate "capitalists".
Under Eisenhower, American heros like Jonas Salk put their very lives at risk, saved millions from a crippling disease, and willingly gave up patent rights to their work.
The 1950's had a "capitalism" that created value, saved lived, and offered rewarding careers to those willing to work hard to help others.
It bears no resemblance to the so called capitalism in which valuable, low priced technologies created by those working in a more functional America are cornered by pirates, all of whom lack the intelligence, the skills, the work ethic, and the sense of morality that characterized earlier generations of Americans like Salk and Sabin to create abetter America. If Salk and Sabin had the values and goals of the un-American creeps that have secured control of Turing Pharmaceuticals they could not have functioned in 1950's America.
In 1956, Eisenhower's GOP platform bragged about its expansion of Social Security coverage, and its labor friendly policies.
The reality is that the trust-busting "capitalism" of Theodore Roosevelt, and the policies of Eisenhower, the first Republican leader to recognize the vital importance of preserving and expanding FDR's policies, is much much closer to the "democratic capitalism" of Senator Sanders, than to any of the perverted souls currently running as a Republican. The only Republicans with whom Theodore Roosevelt and Dwight Eisenhower would have found shared values, are the former Republicans who have left the GOP, and those leaving:
Here's Jonas Salk, in a less dys-functional era:
And here's the poster child for what now passes for "capitalism" in 2015 America, a world where these sorts develop business plans based on identifying older cheap products developed in a more functional age, and a more functional culture, and who plans for profits consist solely of raising the price from $13 to $750 per pill:
This is the type of evolution that might make the founders weep.
And would liklely induce Adam Smith, (who warned that persistent attempts to establish non-competitive conditions by business interests would require diligent regulation),to vomit..
tblue37
(65,212 posts)area51
(11,893 posts)greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)What an evil little prick this Martin Shkreli is.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)set up a government agency that has the right to order a price rollback. if teh company refuses then seize the companies assets and let another company make the drug