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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 03:16 AM Sep 2015

Why Are Two Aging Pacifists on the Federal No-Fly List?

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/09/21/why-are-two-aging-pacifists-federal-no-fly-list

You might think that the no-fly list is old news, a relic of the panicked early days following the 9/11 attacks. In fact, as recently as 2012, there were still more than 21,000 names on the list, and it seems unlikely to have gotten any shorter since then, though we do know of at least four names that, with some legal prodding from the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR), were recently removed from it: Muhammad Tanvir, Jameel Algibhah, Naveed Shinwari, and Awais Sajjad. All four men were American citizens or permanent residents who ended up on the list as retaliation for refusing to become FBI informers and tell tales on their neighbors and others in Muslim communities in this country. For years, they could not visit wives, children, or ailing relatives in countries like Pakistan and Yemen.

According to a suit filed by the CCR in 2014, as reported by Conor Friedersdorf in the Atlantic, Jameel Algibhah’s troubles began in 2009, when he refused the FBI’s request to infiltrate a mosque in Queens, New York. The legal complaint continues:

“When Mr. Algibhah declined to do so, the agents then asked Mr. Algibhah to participate in certain online Islamic forums and ‘act like an extremist.’ When Mr. Algibhah again declined, the agents asked Mr. Algibhah to inform on his community in his neighborhood. The FBI agents offered Mr. Algibhah money and told him that they could bring his family from Yemen to the United States very quickly if he became an informant. Mr. Algibhah again told the FBI agents that he would not become an informant.”

So the FBI retaliated. Since 2010, Jameel Algibhah has been unable to visit his wife and three daughters in Yemen. Not content with preventing Algibhah and the other three from flying, the FBI began interviewing their friends, family, acquaintances, and employers, generating suspicion about them. “They lost jobs, were stigmatized within their communities, and suffered severe financial and emotional distress,” reports the CCR.

In June 2015, just before their case was to go to court, the men received letters from the government officially informing them that their names had been removed from the list. The CCR believes that "the letters are a de facto acknowledgment that the men never posed a security threat of any kind and that the FBI only listed them to coerce them into spying on their faith community."

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Why Are Two Aging Pacifists on the Federal No-Fly List? (Original Post) eridani Sep 2015 OP
Enemy of the State..........brought to life. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2015 #1
The whole article is an interesting read- a question TexasProgresive Sep 2015 #2
Just as a switch from posting only the first 4 paragraphs n/t eridani Sep 2015 #3

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
1. Enemy of the State..........brought to life.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:22 AM
Sep 2015

Concerns me a lot that people are growing up in this country and becoming used to the things that Orwell and Huxley warned us about.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
2. The whole article is an interesting read- a question
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:53 AM
Sep 2015

Why post a snip of the article that is completely out of context to the headline? I see that tactic frequently at DU and I really don't understand the logic. If it wasn't for the phrase "aging pacifists" I would have just moved on without checking out the piece.

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