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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBen Carson is suing people making Ben Carson for President T-shirts, gets destroyed by logic
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/18/1422699/-Ben-Carson-is-suing-people-making-Ben-Carson-for-President-T-shirts-gets-destroyed-by-logicBen Carson has a new lawyer. An intellectual rights lawyer. His name is Clyde Vanel and he sent a cease and desist letter to CafePress for Intellectual Property Infringement.
It has come to our attention that an unauthorized use of my clients' intellectual property,
including but not limited to trademark infringement, copyright infringement, misappropriation of name and likeness, privacy rights infringement is being hosted on the CafePress.com service and platform.
including but not limited to trademark infringement, copyright infringement, misappropriation of name and likeness, privacy rights infringement is being hosted on the CafePress.com service and platform.
CafePress writes back:
Starting with the related issues of trademark infringement and misappropriation of name and likeness, we acknowledge there is a campaign organization called Ben Carson for President 2016, and you, acting on behalf of the campaign, have applied for a trademark registration for a logo that includes those words, shown in specific color pattern. But so far as have been able to discern, none of the items linked at the web page you have identified uses that logo as it appears in the registration application and on each page of your client's campaign web site.
At most, the items display the phrase "Ben Carson for President 2016," often appearing in the patriotic colors of red, white and blue. Many of them simply use Carson's name, or just his given name or his profession. You cannot use trademark theories to ride roughshod over members of the American public who either share your clients' views and favor Carson's candidacy, or for that matter disagree with their views and oppose Carson's candidacy.
At most, the items display the phrase "Ben Carson for President 2016," often appearing in the patriotic colors of red, white and blue. Many of them simply use Carson's name, or just his given name or his profession. You cannot use trademark theories to ride roughshod over members of the American public who either share your clients' views and favor Carson's candidacy, or for that matter disagree with their views and oppose Carson's candidacy.
Good point. More?
More important are the issues of fair use and the First Amendment, which apply equally to your purported misappropriation of name and likeness claims as well as to your trademark claims. Speech about a candidate for president is squarely protected by the First Amendment, hence any effort to use trademark law to quash such uses is highly suspect. Although CafePress users' products are sold, their contents are noncommercial speech, which qualifies for full First Amendment protection.
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Ben Carson is suing people making Ben Carson for President T-shirts, gets destroyed by logic (Original Post)
eridani
Sep 2015
OP
He hears "Freedom of Religion", skips the rest, and it's on to the 2nd Amendment.
pepperbear
Sep 2015
#3
The best line: "It doesn't take a brain surgeon to understand how baseless these claims are"
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2015
#6
Suich
(10,642 posts)1. Checkmate! n/t
Enrique
(27,461 posts)2. Dr. Carson has been having 1st Amendment problems lateky
maybe he didn't get that far
pepperbear
(5,648 posts)3. He hears "Freedom of Religion", skips the rest, and it's on to the 2nd Amendment.
PuraVidaDreamin
(4,099 posts)4. Them neurosurgeons
They do love them some money.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)5. You cannot trademark imagry you aren't actively using.
Come on, Mister Intellectual Rights Laywer.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,301 posts)6. The best line: "It doesn't take a brain surgeon to understand how baseless these claims are"
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2426804/levytovanel.pdf
And a nice dig at Super PACs:
"Indeed, the Super PAC '2016 Committee' caries various wares that display the phrase 'Ben Carson for President 2016'. ... Super PACs have to be independent committees, and cannot coordinate with the official campaign. I assume that you are not going to argue that 2016 Committee's use might confuse consumers into believing that Carson or his campaign committee is the sponsor of the PAC."
And a nice dig at Super PACs:
"Indeed, the Super PAC '2016 Committee' caries various wares that display the phrase 'Ben Carson for President 2016'. ... Super PACs have to be independent committees, and cannot coordinate with the official campaign. I assume that you are not going to argue that 2016 Committee's use might confuse consumers into believing that Carson or his campaign committee is the sponsor of the PAC."
Scuba
(53,475 posts)7. Evidence Carson is in it for the money, not to become President.