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ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:38 AM Sep 2015

BOEHNER QUITTING! BREAKING.... House Speaker John Boehner to resign at end of October...

Last edited Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Can't get anything done with renegades in Congress.

This may not be a good thing, despite our position on Boehner. As Capt. Obvious so aptly puts it in post 22:

"This may be terrible news

The devil you know and all.

Will a fucking lunatic replace him?"

I've heard (Tweety on MSNBC) that it may be McCarthy. *shudder* ...

ETA link:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/25/politics/john-boehner-resigning-as-speaker/

Washington (CNN)John Boehner, the Ohio Republican who steered his party to an overwhelming House majority in 2010, told colleagues Friday he's stepping down as Speaker and will leave Congress at the end of October.

The abrupt decision comes after he faced heavy pressure from conservatives to take a harder line on their causes, most recently over defunding Planned Parenthood.

Boehner, who has presided over the House since 2011, explained during a closed-door meeting with Republicans Friday morning that he had only planned to serve two terms as speaker but decided to hold onto his post after then-House Majority Leader Eric Cantor lost his seat during a primary last year, a Republican lawmaker in the room told CNN.

Boehner, who didn't speak to reporters on Friday, also told the lawmakers that Pope Francis' visit to Congress the day before was a crystallizing moment, according to the lawmaker. Boehner then read the prayer of St. Francis to the conference after announcing his decision.


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BOEHNER QUITTING! BREAKING.... House Speaker John Boehner to resign at end of October... (Original Post) ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2015 OP
Pressure over Planned Parenthood vote? KittyWampus Sep 2015 #1
House Democrats said they were not going to continue helping him hold on to his leadership slot. merrily Sep 2015 #2
thanks for that. I haven't been following politics too closely lately. KittyWampus Sep 2015 #15
How nice! You as well. merrily Sep 2015 #73
Maybe the Pope's speech did it???? JDPriestly Sep 2015 #66
I doubt it. Though Boehner would probably have us believe anything other than that he is being merrily Sep 2015 #70
This sounds like the most likely scenario to me. I can't stand the guy. C Moon Sep 2015 #71
Sounds good---unless his replacement is even worse. merrily Sep 2015 #72
I completely understand that...but I just want to enjoy seeing him go for now. C Moon Sep 2015 #74
Sorry. Be my guest. Enjoy thinking about yam man moving on. merrily Sep 2015 #89
Sounds like part of the reason, also can't deal with "renegades" (MSNBC) in Congress. nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2015 #3
It's the shutdown vote, and also a changing Republican party Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2015 #13
Ryan, McCarthy, Hensarling being floated as replacements Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2015 #4
Now We Know Why He Was All Teary Eyed Yesterday.....nt global1 Sep 2015 #5
Yesterday must have been especially poignant for him. In the midst Hortensis Sep 2015 #30
He is orange juce liberal N proud Sep 2015 #6
Yep. Just got through posting it on Facebook mmonk Sep 2015 #7
He listened to the pope yesterday Gman Sep 2015 #8
That's giving BONER *way* lot of credit!1 n/t UTUSN Sep 2015 #12
I don't think he is evil one bit Gman Sep 2015 #21
I agree,Gman, 1000% nt gelsdorf Sep 2015 #32
That's exactly what I think happened. CoffeeCat Sep 2015 #35
+1 hamsterjill Sep 2015 #52
He didn't have to give up his seat CoffeeCat Sep 2015 #86
Didn’t know any of that, thanks for the info dorkzilla Sep 2015 #59
There are two kinds of assholes... CoffeeCat Sep 2015 #87
I could not have said it better Gman Sep 2015 #85
Now I'm crying too, tears of joy. L. Coyote Sep 2015 #9
Be careful what you wish for, huh. We may get someone who can Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2015 #11
my sentiments entirely...we will probably get a raging RWer... CTyankee Sep 2015 #16
Hey CTY ! To me, this is a huge omen - significant disarray Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2015 #48
While I know what you mean, this will open the gates of stupid Republican hell. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author PADemD Sep 2015 #36
He'd need to switch to the House to do that. But yes, I'm sure he would love the gig. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #40
you do not need to be a Member of the House to be elected Speaker. bottomofthehill Sep 2015 #67
I had no idea. Thanks for the correction. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #69
Now the question is will his replacement be saner or crazier? ZM90 Sep 2015 #10
It's not even a question - Crazier Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2015 #19
You are correct. ZM90 Sep 2015 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Sep 2015 #20
easy bet ! Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2015 #26
No, the real question is will they gerrymander the House before voting, so a loser can win. L. Coyote Sep 2015 #88
I say: Great Start! fredamae Sep 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Sep 2015 #18
This may be terrible news Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Sep 2015 #38
He is the favorite Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Sep 2015 #43
He's a tea bagger Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #45
They're all devils and lunatics. Some just might be more cordial than others. WinkyDink Sep 2015 #80
In the speakership or OH-08? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #82
He is going take his insider trading millions INdemo Sep 2015 #24
Get ready for Speaker Gohmert (nt) TacoD Sep 2015 #25
What's the line in the commodities market for popcorn? Jack Rabbit Sep 2015 #55
Oh please, oh please pscot Sep 2015 #78
Why do I want to believe countingbluecars Sep 2015 #27
Maybe because it is there among all the roiling plans and emotions? Hortensis Sep 2015 #37
Is this a joke? libodem Sep 2015 #28
No joke. But this may backfire on us. nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2015 #39
Wow libodem Sep 2015 #46
what back fired on "us" was too much of the left sitting out 2010 and 2014 elections. saturnsring Sep 2015 #65
He wants to spend more time with his mistress? GreatCaesarsGhost Sep 2015 #29
Or spend more time in the tanning bed Yavin4 Sep 2015 #50
Boehner quit a long time ago. eo. Malraiders Sep 2015 #31
. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #33
Get ready for Speaker McMorris NYCButterfinger Sep 2015 #34
Heh. At first I saw that as '...the GOP STFU response last year.' randome Sep 2015 #47
not a chance bottomofthehill Sep 2015 #68
Well this cements the reelection of my scumbag rep Meadows Lee-Lee Sep 2015 #41
Third in line picked from a pool of freaks that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground is, lonestarnot Sep 2015 #44
Nancy Pelosi must be laughing her ass off right about now n/t Yavin4 Sep 2015 #49
Boehner tired of fighting the crazies. Insurrection in the party SummerSnow Sep 2015 #51
This is some awful news Recursion Sep 2015 #53
There's video of the crazies at the Value Voters conference erupting in cheers maryellen99 Sep 2015 #60
Sure; imagine if Reid or Pelosi had resigned. There would have been a lot of cheering on the left. Recursion Sep 2015 #61
I think we should hold off the celebrations iandhr Sep 2015 #54
The appropriate question isn't "will a fucking lunatic replace him?" Salviati Sep 2015 #56
I Think It's Too Much To Hope For, But Wouldn't It Be ChiciB1 Sep 2015 #57
is it so he can go into rehab? barbtries Sep 2015 #58
There may something to what you say. jalan48 Sep 2015 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author Lodestar Sep 2015 #84
Well, isn't that a pretty penny. Pretty much cinches this as the CR showdown to end all CR showdowns Hugin Sep 2015 #62
This is not good. EEO Sep 2015 #63
If I had to work with the lunatics in his party, I'd quit too. n/t CanonRay Sep 2015 #64
I wonder when whatever terminal illness he has will be announced? niyad Sep 2015 #76
There is no cure for Republicanism. Only a slow decline into uselessness. randome Sep 2015 #81
Was it a come to Jesus moment? Android3.14 Sep 2015 #77
Well the crazy train will go full throttle now Monk06 Sep 2015 #79
Yep.... no wonder there were tears in Congress during his rare visit there. Lodestar Sep 2015 #83
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
1. Pressure over Planned Parenthood vote?
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:40 AM
Sep 2015

WASHINGTON — Speaker John A. Boehner will resign from Congress and give up his House seat at the end of October, according to aides in his office.

Mr. Boehner was under extreme pressure from the right wing of his conference over whether or not to defund Planned Parenthood in a bill to keep the government open.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. House Democrats said they were not going to continue helping him hold on to his leadership slot.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:41 AM
Sep 2015

Whenever his own delegation has tried to replace him, Democrats have saved his teary sweet potato-colored ass. They've said, "No more." So, rather than get voted out, he's trying to play hero.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
70. I doubt it. Though Boehner would probably have us believe anything other than that he is being
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:10 PM
Sep 2015

forced out because his caucus wants him out and Democrats have stopped propping him up.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
71. This sounds like the most likely scenario to me. I can't stand the guy.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:11 PM
Sep 2015

I don't care if he's not considered a Tea Party Republican, or not. He was part of the Party of No and did nothing but slow down recovery of our country. Good-bye jack ass.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
13. It's the shutdown vote, and also a changing Republican party
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:50 AM
Sep 2015

The rank and file want to take their agenda waaaaay further to the right.

So now, the speaker will essentially be PT Barnum. Nothing will get done, but we'll have weekly grand spectacle. Hearings; shutdowns; more controversial joint session addresses.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
4. Ryan, McCarthy, Hensarling being floated as replacements
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:45 AM
Sep 2015

NBC saying basically Boehner had to depend on Dems to retain the speakership, and thought that this put him in a no-win situation.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Yesterday must have been especially poignant for him. In the midst
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:03 AM
Sep 2015

of such much going wrong, and having made the decision to resign, yesterday's address by Pope Francis was also an important high point for him. He even compared the problems his continued presence would cause Congress to the prior Pope Benedict's to the Catholic Church.

He's far too conservative for me to regret, and his inability to control what may have been uncontrollable very bad for the nation, but I do feel for him personally and am glad he has yesterday to remember.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
8. He listened to the pope yesterday
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:46 AM
Sep 2015

And I'll bet his conscience got the best of him. He said I can't do this anymore.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
21. I don't think he is evil one bit
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:53 AM
Sep 2015

Never have His conscience, upbringing, and religion yesterday.through to him. His conscience, upbringing, and religion yesterday duct through to him. When he says he can't get anything done these likely referring to accomplishing the things the pope referred to yesterday

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
35. That's exactly what I think happened.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:12 AM
Sep 2015

All you had to do what look at the turmoil on his face.

This was a man who knows that what he's been playing, is in direct conflict with his religion and his God. You can make jokes all you want, but Bohner sees himself as a "good Catholic" and his faith is important to him. He was the one who got Pope Francis here. Having the pope address congress has been a long-time dream of Bohner's.

The Pope met with Bohner just prior to the congressional address. Bohner wept through the entire thing. He practically broke down when the Pope talked about people using religion to justify the horrors of war.

Oh yes. Bohner quit because he could no longer participate in the farce. We can only imagine the evil and depravity that goes on behind the scenes. Bohner has seen it all.

While I applaud his conscience, I do not think that he will do the right things and expose the pathology that exists in Congress today. He will consider that he is "right with God" by resigning and not participating.

Bohner may be someone we don't like--but he is miles ahead of 80 percent of Congressional members--who are full-fledged psychopaths and sociopaths.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
52. +1
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:16 AM
Sep 2015

I'm just catching up on all of this now...

Okay, am I just stupid, or could he have given up his chairmanship without resigning his seat? I think it's pertinent that he is actually leaving Congress.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
86. He didn't have to give up his seat
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:47 PM
Sep 2015

Bohner didn't have to give up his Congressional seat.

The Speakership isn't tied to being a House member. A Senator can be speaker of the House. You don't even have to be a Congress member to be Speaker. Sarah Palin could be speaker (sorry, I know that is jarring).

That's why all of this is so telling. He just chucked the whole thing out the window. He's done with the bullshit.

The Pope made it clear that Bohner and his ilk are on the wrong side of God. To Bohner, the Pope is "infallible." To Catholics, that means that the Pope is God-like.

Bohner is either going to drink himself silly or he's going to get sober and tell us all of the delicious details about the sociopaths who have stolen our government. That is…if they allow him to live. A guy who has been on the inside, who has a sudden epiphany, is probably seen as a loose cannon/threat to the power structure.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
59. Didn’t know any of that, thanks for the info
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:40 AM
Sep 2015

I thought it was a portent of something bad - - “leadership” promised Wall Street there would be no more shut-downs and I thought he was resigning because he felt he couldn’t control his party in Congress, and therefore could not make good on that promise.

I had no idea he was even Catholic. Nor did I know about his bringing the Pope here or the meeting between Francis and the Weeping Orange. I thought it was more Weeping Orange Theater.

I actually feel badly for the bloke now. No wonder he’s a drunken mess most of the time.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
87. There are two kinds of assholes...
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 03:50 PM
Sep 2015

The first kind is the full-blown psychopath. They feel nothing and actually enjoy the pain they inflict.

The second kind a half-measure kind of person. These people are tortured, because they do feel. They know that what they are doing is wrong. They're in pain. However, denial keeps them running like little Energizer bunnies. In Bohner's situation, I think he drinks his pain away.

If that man gets away from the horrors that is our government and gets sober--there's no telling what we could learn from him.

He should probably avoid small aircraft.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
85. I could not have said it better
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 02:45 PM
Sep 2015

You are exactly 100% correct. I have never thought he was a bad person. Like many in the GOP, they are trapped by the ideology of the far right wing. They are ambitious, so they play that game. This reminds me somewhat of JC Watts. And African-American republican congressman from Oklahoma. He could no longer be there token and play their game.

I don't really expect many others to follow suit. If anything this is a rare occurrence

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
11. Be careful what you wish for, huh. We may get someone who can
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:49 AM
Sep 2015

actually get some of their batshit ideas done

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
48. Hey CTY ! To me, this is a huge omen - significant disarray
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:55 AM
Sep 2015

in the party. Who quits smack dab in the middle of an election cycle?

makes me think they (the half way sane ones (who used to be insane - but now looking half way compared to others)) know the party is doomed.

No one likes Jeb - their moderate ace in the hole. rubio can't win. Probably why they are polling on Romney's chances. Actually don't know who the "they" is - PTB in party or Mittens himself.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
14. While I know what you mean, this will open the gates of stupid Republican hell.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:50 AM
Sep 2015

God knows what degenerate they'll choose to replace him.

Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #14)

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
67. you do not need to be a Member of the House to be elected Speaker.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:05 PM
Sep 2015

Maybe we will get Speaker Trump. That would make for fun times in the House.

ZM90

(706 posts)
23. You are correct.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:54 AM
Sep 2015

Will it be Huckabee crazier, Cruz crazier, or Trump crazier? Taking all bets! Taking all bets!

Response to ZM90 (Reply #10)

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
88. No, the real question is will they gerrymander the House before voting, so a loser can win.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 04:12 PM
Sep 2015

Kidding, but i'm sure they will elect a loser.

Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Original post)

Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #22)

Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #42)

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
45. He's a tea bagger
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:32 AM
Sep 2015

but he's been working with Boehner to reign in the crazies.

Now he has to lead - will he go full teabag or lead?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
82. In the speakership or OH-08?
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:21 PM
Sep 2015

In OH-08, my money would be on Sheriff Jones, a violently xenophobic 'deport them all' type to try a run. The Repub party machinery talked him out of it a couple of cycles ago, but he's well liked among the red-leaning types.

countingbluecars

(4,766 posts)
27. Why do I want to believe
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 09:56 AM
Sep 2015

that this is because Boehner took what the pope said yesterday to heart and no longer wants to be part of the hate that is the Republican party.

Just read Boehner's statement-Guess not.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Maybe because it is there among all the roiling plans and emotions?
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:17 AM
Sep 2015

You know, only about a third or so of conservatives are the hating kind. Boehner's a pretty traditional conservative, the kind Buckley referred to when he said, "A Conservative is a fellow who is standing athwart history yelling 'Stop!'"

This era is remarkable for Big Money corrupting conservatives into forgetting that (because business LIKES the profitable change technology brings) and retraining them in a soulless ideology with one belief: The need to stop the Democrats.

I'd be weeping too.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
46. Wow
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:37 AM
Sep 2015

I'm amazed. The Pope really does make miracles.

Off to lobby land with his insider trading millions.


Schmuck.

 

saturnsring

(1,832 posts)
65. what back fired on "us" was too much of the left sitting out 2010 and 2014 elections.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:01 PM
Sep 2015

they have consequences and one of them is too many of the opposition gets voted in

 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
34. Get ready for Speaker McMorris
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:10 AM
Sep 2015

She is a star in the GOP. She may be the GOP vice presidential running mate. She can connect with the voters, like she did in the GOP SOTU response last year.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
47. Heh. At first I saw that as '...the GOP STFU response last year.'
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:42 AM
Sep 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
68. not a chance
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:08 PM
Sep 2015

she has had the chance to move up the republican ladder and has not. She is as dumb as a bag of hammers.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
41. Well this cements the reelection of my scumbag rep Meadows
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:23 AM
Sep 2015

As he was leading the charge against Boehner- now he will be the darling of every teabaggers ball...

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
44. Third in line picked from a pool of freaks that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground is,
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 10:31 AM
Sep 2015

well, business as usual. SNAFU.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
53. This is some awful news
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:21 AM
Sep 2015

God knows what paleolithic troglodyte monstrosity they're going to dig up to replace him

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
60. There's video of the crazies at the Value Voters conference erupting in cheers
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:45 AM
Sep 2015

When it was announced during Rubios speech that Boehner was resigning.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
61. Sure; imagine if Reid or Pelosi had resigned. There would have been a lot of cheering on the left.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:46 AM
Sep 2015

"Finally, we can get a non-DINO!" "Time for someone with backbone!" etc.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
56. The appropriate question isn't "will a fucking lunatic replace him?"
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:26 AM
Sep 2015

but rather, which fucking lunatic will replace him...

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
57. I Think It's Too Much To Hope For, But Wouldn't It Be
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:31 AM
Sep 2015

SUPER if Boner had enough of a spine to give more than the standard speech of I'm resigning to spend time with my family, yatty yatty! How amazing would it be if he could/would repudiate his Repuke Party and be specific and up front with his reasons.

But, hearing some "gossip" that he may be connected to some weird scandal that may soon hit the airways who knows. Even if they elect a WORSE person to ride the wayward horse of the Party it may in some ways shine a brighter light on the these high and mighty religious zealots!

Yes, I wish for too much and what I'm speculating about here is probably far too much to hope for. No matter, it's apparent his fellow Congress Critters really, really dislike him

UNLIKE our very own Democratic Party who can't seem to grasp the fact that so many of us so fiercely want to be rid of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz!

I'm a Bernie supporter and because of how I feel right now I'm seriously thinking of changing from a Democrat to NPA after the FL primary. Fl is a state that requires you to register a party affiliation to vote. So depending on what happens in 2016 I will make this decision. Not a decision I ever thought I would do, but this Democratic Party isn't anywhere close to the one I joined when I became eligible to vote. Even before my eligibility I always knew my thoughts were with the Democrats.

Ok, nuff said!

jalan48

(13,856 posts)
75. There may something to what you say.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:38 PM
Sep 2015

It's obvious the man has a serious drinking problem. At some point he just can't function anymore.

Response to barbtries (Reply #58)

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
62. Well, isn't that a pretty penny. Pretty much cinches this as the CR showdown to end all CR showdowns
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 11:47 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Fri Sep 25, 2015, 06:04 PM - Edit history (1)

As deeply tempted as I am to say something, I will resist. Instead, I only wish John Boehner a future filled with enlightenment and release.

On to Speaker Gohmert! Yick.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
81. There is no cure for Republicanism. Only a slow decline into uselessness.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:07 PM
Sep 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
77. Was it a come to Jesus moment?
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 12:43 PM
Sep 2015

"Boehner then read the prayer of St. Francis to the conference after announcing his decision."

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
83. Yep.... no wonder there were tears in Congress during his rare visit there.
Fri Sep 25, 2015, 01:26 PM
Sep 2015

When you live for power and wealth, it's an empty life indeed. But how often does something happen, such as the Pope's visit, that holds up the mirror so powerfully.
Rather than take Boehner to task on his less than saintly activities, when alone with Boehner, the Pope offered him a loving embrace, asked the politician to pray for him and reminded him about work for children and education.

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