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GOP Candidates Welcome Boehner's Exit at Jubilant SummitThe House speaker's resignation filled the Values Voter Summit with applause and standing ovations as Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, and Marco Rubio celebrated the beginning of new era in Congress.
FRI SEP 25, 2015 AT 10:04 AM PDT
News About Boehner Resignation
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LadyLake
The reason for writing it is that on Thom Hartman just now, Bob Ney was on.
Bob Ney got sent up the river for dirty dealing while in congress. When he got out he wrote a book, Sideswiped, about his years in congress and told some interesting tales out of school, including some about Boehner.
He still has alot of friends and contacts in the congress and talked with them about the resignation:
He did not have the votes to ride out this latest uprising.
If he lost his speakership and remained in congress, his protection against crimes he's committed, dirty deals, ect., would come back to haunt him.
He has some huge enemies in the party, not just the tea party. The speakership protected him against corruption charges. Without the protection he's without any real help to beat them.
There are 4 people seriously being looked at for speaker. Steve Scalise, Jeb Hensarling, Kevin McCarthy and Jim Jordan.
If Kevin McCarthy, one of the infamous Young Guns, gets it it will only be with alot of concessions to the extreme wings of the party.
Jordan and Hensarling are members of the 'Freedom Caucus'. I don't know about Scalise but, I would think so because it is the extreme conservative, tea party caucus.
McCarthy is considered 'moderate and establishment'.
Hensarling is part of a group of republicans who's main cause is impeaching Obama.
Scalise is a racist and tea partier.
Ney does not think Jordan will get the spot but, if he does, he is a real reactionary.
Either way, look for alot of shut downs, alot of emotional, reactionary laws, behavior and the house in total chaos.
The one bright light is that these clowns may be the true unmasking of the republican party and their masters. One that even the corporate press cannot ignore.
hmmmmm?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/25/1424885/-News-About-Boehner-Resignation
Mass
(27,315 posts)Keyword : considered.
There is really no good alternative to Boehner.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027202804
A few reminders about our future speaker, Kevin McCarthy.
The media like to describe Kevin McCarthy as a nice guy and a moderate, but he is definitively not a moderate.
First of all, he was a poor whip and a poor majority leader (problems became worse when he became majority leader).
He is an opportunist who decided to ditch the ExImp Bank as a pledge to the Tea Party. It was his first statement when Cantor lost his seat.
Finally, while Boehner was not somebody who spent a lot of time on social issues, it seems McCarthy (and his wife) are part of the oppressed christians movement.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/kevin-mccarthys-wife-says-she-losing-her-right-be-christian
Note that, while it is Ms McCarthy speaking, he was present when she said that and does not even blink.
So, he is probably a lot more right wing that we are told.
Edit: I forgot he was also responsible for the recruitment of the 2010 Republicans (otherwise said the Tea Party). He can as well deal with the mess he created.
kpete
(71,984 posts)You are right
the alternatives are bleak
we might start to miss the Orange Man...
peace,
kp
Blus4u
(608 posts)You do good work here!
I would like to learn more on the skeletons buried in Boehner's past.
Peace
erronis
(15,237 posts)And that is, of course, the crux (interesting word) of the matter. There are no "right" minds that want this.
There may be a few Hitler-wannabes that see leading their christian foot-soldiers into a complete destruction of our little democratic experiment.
randys1
(16,286 posts)give in to the other terrorists all the time.
Boehner was horrid, but he did prevent the very worst things from happening.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Teahadist sounding
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)the mask of respectability gets ripped from the repigs and they are undeniably shown to the public as a whole to be the collection of crooks, psychotics, theocratic totalitarians and blithering morons DUers have always known them to be.
czarjak
(11,266 posts)Now's your chance, boy.
Capn Sunshine
(14,378 posts)With Hermain Caine leaving the scene the performance art royalty mantle falls to good old Louie.
For one thing, having him a heartbeat away from the Presidency would put the fear of dog into the MSM, who currently doesn't understand him.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)I fear real extremism is now empowered.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)The left has snarked too long at this pit of vipers. They are not benign, but cunning and dangerous. I am still furious with those who sat at home during the last election and did not vote for candidates to change Congress.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)John Cougar Mellencamp's song, "Hurts so Good" comes to mind. The only way this benefits us and helps to get us on the right track (maybe), is for one of these extremist to totally screw up government, which I have no doubt they will. The problem is that The Orange Man and his crew have been pretty bad for a long time and we still have half the country think Obama and the Democrats are the big problem.
I think it will help in the elections, but they are still over a year away.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)haikugal
(6,476 posts)spanone
(135,818 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)to be out of .Anarchy coming from the right wing will be very dangerous .
redwitch
(14,944 posts)against the raging hordes of complete lunatics. This may sound the death knell of the Republican Party. Which has been on life support for a really long time.
Promethean
(468 posts)Boehner is gone if not now then soon and they are going to be putting one of the crazies up in his place. Then we are going to have nearly a year of their mismanagement and insanity to point to as a major election is coming up. Bernie gaining ground and republicans running full tilt towards insanity. This election has the potential to be the tipping point where we pull our country out of this corrupted pool of filth it has been wallowing in.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)What would replace it though? Maybe our corporate democrats might form a new Party of business types that could take up the banner of conservatism. I would be thrilled. I want my Democratic Party to go back to it's ideals of being for the worker and the ordinary people.
underpants
(182,763 posts)Not a fan of his but he worked deals with Obama on several issues then walked back into his caucus and they were screaming like lunatics. Deal after deal fell apart which lead to the shut down as well as other things.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)All 435 U.S. House of Representative seats are up for election in 2016.
leftieNanner
(15,081 posts)the key word here is GERRYMANDERING. We may not be able to get the House back until after the 2020 census - and that's only IF we can take back some state legislatures. Dems have been asleep at the wheel. I am afraid of what comes next. It's like driving by a terrible car accident - don't want to see the carnage, but can't look away.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)leftieNanner
(15,081 posts)While we go through the next year. This could get ugly. I keep thinking that the republicans couldn't possibly elect ........ (enter name of crazy person here), but then we get Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and Joni Ernst in the Senate. I think even my conservative late father would be gagging at what has become of his party.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)If they get crazy enough that discipline will fail. They either don't vote at all or vote for the other guy thinking there is always next election.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Without that, the Far Right GOPers will remain entrenched. The Democratic Party is NOT in that strong position, and may not want to be.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)in all 435 Congressional Seats? Radical idea, I know. Nope, I'm sure DWS will go to the usual 6-state, 20-congressional races strategy that has been a proven loser in the last two elections.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)But the scuttlebutt is because he favors giving legal status to undocumented immigrants, (his district in Bakersfield is full of them), the extreme tea baggers in the caucus won't consider him for that reason, but he would be the logical choice in a sane Congress. We'll see.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)edbermac
(15,937 posts)Just a rumor though.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Everyone would be semi-coated in sweat and orange spray tan.
Not pretty.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)You know, the part when he burst into song??
randys1
(16,286 posts)Kim Davis husband "I dont like you"
I wish he would have been more honest and admitted he hates him because he is Gay and wants rights.
But he only said "I dont like you"
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)I just can't stand him . . .
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)a clown car this time.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)Yep. A Democratic one.
dpatbrown
(368 posts)but I taught 4th grade for 26 years and just retired. I can't tell you how many times I told my students that "alot" is two words, and the reason is that teachers teach them that. Go figure. I strongly believe that it should be added next year as a new word to the dictionary.
Anyway (I apologize) the real reason for responding, is the only thing I know for sure, it's going to be funny to watch.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)further instead of farther. As my fifth-grade teacher said: Far = distance. Farther - more distance.
kpete
(71,984 posts)Please never apologize for teaching.
peace,
kp
Bucky
(53,993 posts)(kinda figures Breitbart would run headlines in all caps)
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/25/exclusive-mark-levin-warns-house-republicans-not-support-kevin-mccarthy-speaker/
MARK LEVIN WARNS HOUSE REPUBLICANS: DO NOT SUPPORT KEVIN MCCARTHY FOR SPEAKER
Popular talk radio host and best-selling author Mark Levin is warning Republicans in Washington: dont replace outgoing House Speaker Rep. John Boehner with Rep. Kevin McCarthy.
Levins a tirelessly warrior against Speaker Boehner and the Washington establishment. Kevin McCarthy is Eric Cantor with ten less IQ points, Levin declares in an exclusive interview with Breitbart News.
The radio star adds Republicans must learn their lesson and not repeat the mistakes they made following Eric Cantors historic fall from powernamely that Republicans must replace Boehner with a principled conservative.
That's a cut-n-paste job by me. So, yes, Breitbart editors actually write commentary like "Levins a tirelessly warrior {sic} against Speaker Boehner..." and slips like syntactically pairing "mistakes they made" with "replace Boehner with a principled conservative."
kpete
(71,984 posts)Scariest thing I have read today.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Take that with a grain of salt.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Asked if "some" members of the GOP conference have unrealistic expectations:
Absolutely theyre not realistic, Boehner said. Change comes slowly, and obviously too slowly for some.
There are people out there spreading, uh, noise about how much can get done. I mean this whole idea that we were going to shut down the government to get rid of Obamacare in 2013 just plain never had a chance.
We got groups here in town, members of the House and Senate, her in town, who whip people into a frenzy believing they can accomplish things that they know they know are never going to happen.
(Mr. Boehner would know. The GOP has spent over 35 years tearing down the progressive accomplishments of the previous 60 years and still has much work to do. Dismantling Social Security and Medicare, of course, being particularly resistant evils that require more time. And now Obamacare.)