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GOPer Caught On Tape Explaining How Shell Redistrict Black Democratic Colleague Out Of Office (AUDIO)Author: Jameson Parker September 23, 2015
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/09/23/goper-caught-on-tape-explaining-how-shell-redistrict-black-democratic-colleague-out-of-office-audio/
Rep. Janet Adkins was at a private gathering during a meeting of the Republican Party of Florida. Rather than focus on things like plugging the numerous holes in the Republican sinking ship, Adkins was hatching a plan to steal the election instead. According to tapes secretly recorded and leaked to POLITICO, Adkins wanted to kick long-time liberal congresswoman Corrine Brown out of office by carefully redrawing her district to include as many prisons as possible. Prisoners, you may recall, cannot vote. But first, she made everyone swear that there were no reporters in the room that would rat on her.
Let me give you inside ball game. Are there any reporters in here? she said. Any reporters? OK. So, inside ball game.
Before saying:
You draw [Browns seat] in such a fashion so perhaps, a majority, or maybe not a majority, but a number of them will live in the prisons, thereby not being able to vote, said Adkins, a Nassau County Republican, referring to black residents.
Adkins concluded by saying the fact that so many minorities are in prisons where they are listed in the census but arent actually allowed to vote is the perfect storm to beating a Democrat if the district was redrawn just so.
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cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
brush
(53,475 posts)And they know it, which is why they spend so much time coming up with their dirty schemes.
I hope this goes viral and eventually into MSM.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)First, the headline is inaccurate. They are NOT colleagues. Rep. Janet Adkins is in the Fl House, Rep. Corrine Brown is in the US House.
Secondly, Rep. Brown colloberated with Fl GOP in gerrymandering her district in order to carve herself out a safe seat. Her hands are not clean, it's the most gerrymandered US Congresssional District in Florida. As a result, it gave safe seats to GOP in neighboring Districts that otherwise would be more competitive. Rep Brown was self-serving, not trying to make FL's districts more fair to Democrats.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)1monster
(11,012 posts)politicians.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...that districts could not be drawn to favor a party or create a safe seat for an incumbent. Florida Legislature has failed in several attempts to do so. The Fla House and Senate can't even agree. It's in the courts hands now.
1monster
(11,012 posts)forty years.
With the end of Walkin' Lawton Chiles term as governor (didn't he get the last laugh on Jebby by making sure that Jeb was NOT his sucessor!), Florida went off the edge of the cliff that it had been successfully negotiating up until then.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I'm holding out hope. The Court deciding the redistricting is the same one that has repeatedly ruled the GOP redistricting plans illegal.
Already in TB area some Republican incumbents are filing for other offices, as they see the writing on the wall in their redrawn districts.
1monster
(11,012 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Give us a break!
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)She colloberated with the GOP so she could have a safe seat carved out for her, even though it meant the surrounding districts then became safe GOP seats.
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/15/1402643/-One-of-the-most-gerrymandered-districts-in-America-is-about-to-meet-its-doom
http://m.jacksonville.com/news/florida/2012-07-29/story/corrine-brown-wins-redistricting-war#showInfo=http://m.wap.jacksonville.com/news/florida/2012-07-29/story/corrine-brown-wins-redistricting-war?fmt=www
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)And here's another, even more damaging:
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/democrat-us-rep-corrine-brown-again-aligns-with-gop-in-florida/1169453
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)And she still is. Why do you think the NAACP harshly criticized her?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Because, now you have just modified your falsehood. Time to retract it.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Is English not your first language?
djean111
(14,255 posts)This is the state where Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, DINO head of the DNC, both campaigned for GOP buddies, and sat out and refused to campaign for Dems because they were running against her GOP buddies.
The Democratic party reeks of self-serving Third Way, down here. And with Debbie deciding who gets support and who does not (she works very closely with the Florida Democratic party), that old admonition to elect progressives is pretty much useless, except at a very local level. Debbie is now pushing a guy for Rubio's seat who was not even a Democrat until about 2012, and only switched so he could run against the GOP incumbent. And the Florida progressive Caucus was threatened with disbandment or something when they objected to this guy and wanted a Progressive to run. That's what Florida is like now. DINO country.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)In order to clear the primary for another of Debbie's ex-GOP pets. The AA forced to withdraw was in fear for his family's safety.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Neeh!
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Overseas
(12,121 posts)Republicans are using all their dirty tricks!
Rex
(65,616 posts)Alas, our leaders don't like fair play. Why is that?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)She colloberated with the Fl GOP in the original gerrymandering of her district, in order to get herself a safe seat. As a result, it created several safe seats for the GOP in neighboring districts. She is not an innocent victim.
Regardless, the redistricting is no longer in the hands of the Fla Legislature. They have failed several times. It's now in the Courts hands to redraw the districts.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Yes I know. Texas is in the horrible condition it is in, because back in the day dems and reps decided to carve it up so they didn't have to worry about votes.
And here we are now. A completely fucked up country with districts shaped like an octopus.
Ichigo Kurosaki
(167 posts)murielm99
(30,657 posts)Look at the 17th District.
Although, I have to say that right now, I am relieved we have a Democratic statehouse. Rauner is going to destroy this state otherwise.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)perdita9
(1,142 posts)Deliberately trying to turn someone out of office is a heck of a lot more heinous than having a private email server.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)See posts 4 and 10.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)You'll probably say there is none.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Talk about pinning the donkey on the tail! You are totally confused about cause and effect.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)She's not an innocent victim.
Links in post 38.
Rep Brown has even been highly criticized by the NAACP and ACLU for colloberating with the GOP in order to secure herself a safe seat.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/democrat-us-rep-corrine-brown-again-aligns-with-gop-in-florida/1169453
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Why do you think the NAACP harshly criticized Rep Brown?
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/democrat-us-rep-corrine-brown-again-aligns-with-gop-in-florida/1169453
Quote:
"I like Corrine," said Leon Russell, an NAACP leader who has worked on election issues. "But I wish she hadn't done this. I don't think you should frustrate the process purely on basis of your self-interest, no matter who you are."
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)accusing a Dem Congressperson of something they did not do.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Nice try...take a Tnx box on your way off the stage.
librechik
(30,663 posts)mountain grammy
(26,573 posts)packman
(16,296 posts)it kept a white power structure in office perpetuating their abusive politics and police state. Make a majority of eligible voters ineligible to vote by making them felons on BS charges.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)On the grounds of violating human rights, fundamental rights? There has to be a way to make this a huge stink. A huge story.
I know it's been going on for over a hundred years but with this tape, can't something else happen now?
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Taking about it no, doing it, yes.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)this to DUers for a long time. This is precisely the reason Dr. Guinier was not able to become AG under Clinton when he was forced to back down from her appointment to appease the RW pols. (Never quite forgave him for this move). This relation between prisoners and the census is the primary reason that so many red states and red jurisdictions fight to have prisons built within their districts.
Prisoners count as residents for census purposes thereby entitling more Congressional representation for those districts BUT the prisoners are not allowed to vote. Blue districts and states have lost representation as prisons have been moved and built outside those districts. It is amazing how politically ignorant American voters are about what is going on around them. And the media does a good job of not exposing so many of these ploys. We are lucky to be no worse off than we are, America.
http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/guinier/
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)C Moon
(12,188 posts)That's all GOP candidates need to do, right? Apologize after being caught?
http://jacksonville.com/news/florida/2015-09-23/story/rep-janet-adkins-apologizes-comments-saying-convicts-key-defeating-us
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)who couild trump that???
radicalliberal
(907 posts)I've heard this stupid, insulting line many times. This is NOT an apology! It's classic, insincere BS. Public relations baloney.
This person should suffer some repercussions, but I bet there won't be any.
Folks, the moral of the story is "Don't get caught!"
C Moon
(12,188 posts)NonMetro
(631 posts)In Michigan, on the tea party surge in 2010, the GOP gained control of congress, and gerrymandered this state, using sophisticated software, to the point where it is now not possible for the Democrats to get a majority in either state chamber. And Democrats are a majority here, voting for Obama both times, and we have two Democratic Senators - the only seats the Repiblicans couldn't gerrymander away. There should be a law against this. Minority rule is the opposite of democracy.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)No Vested Interest
(5,157 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and neo-fascism.
Skittles
(152,967 posts)so what choice do they have?
valerief
(53,235 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Beartracks
(12,761 posts)... lie and cheat your way to winning the money/power.
It has nothing to do with public service, in the eyes of conservatives.
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shenmue
(38,503 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,112 posts)Thanks for the thread, L. Coyote.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)The Republicans down in Florida have an arrogant air about them going back to the mid 1990's.
They have had such a lock on the Florida state legislature that they think they can get away with just about anything down there.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)They just need to be investigated.