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Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:09 AM

GOPer Caught On Tape Explaining How She’ll Redistrict Black Democratic Colleague Out Of Office

GOPer Caught On Tape Explaining How She’ll Redistrict Black Democratic Colleague Out Of Office (AUDIO)
Author: Jameson Parker September 23, 2015
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/09/23/goper-caught-on-tape-explaining-how-shell-redistrict-black-democratic-colleague-out-of-office-audio/

For years now, people have been noticing that to win elections, Republicans haven’t just bent the rules, they seem to have abandoned the “democracy” game altogether. Apparently unable to win elections fair-and-square, conservatives have increasingly relied on “redistricting” areas that they would have no chance of winning into more favorable seats. And while the practice should be considered an affront to the very idea of an open democracy, it has apparently become so commonplace for lawmakers that one was just caught on tape dryly explaining how she planned to use the technique to defeat her African-American Democratic colleague.

Rep. Janet Adkins was at a private gathering during a meeting of the Republican Party of Florida. Rather than focus on things like plugging the numerous holes in the Republican sinking ship, Adkins was hatching a plan to steal the election instead. According to tapes secretly recorded and leaked to POLITICO, Adkins wanted to kick long-time liberal congresswoman Corrine Brown out of office by carefully redrawing her district to include as many prisons as possible. Prisoners, you may recall, cannot vote. But first, she made everyone swear that there were no reporters in the room that would rat on her.

“Let me give you inside ball game. Are there any reporters in here?” she said. “Any reporters? OK. So, inside ball game.”


Before saying:

“You draw [Brown’s seat] in such a fashion so perhaps, a majority, or maybe not a majority, but a number of them will live in the prisons, thereby not being able to vote,” said Adkins, a Nassau County Republican, referring to black residents.


Adkins concluded by saying the fact that so many minorities are in prisons where they are listed in the census but aren’t actually allowed to vote is the “perfect storm” to beating a Democrat if the district was redrawn just so.

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Reply GOPer Caught On Tape Explaining How She’ll Redistrict Black Democratic Colleague Out Of Office (Original post)
L. Coyote Sep 2015 OP
cantbeserious Sep 2015 #1
brush Sep 2015 #2
Vincardog Sep 2015 #26
ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2015 #3
HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #4
dixiegrrrrl Sep 2015 #6
1monster Sep 2015 #8
HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #14
1monster Sep 2015 #15
HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #16
1monster Sep 2015 #19
L. Coyote Sep 2015 #37
HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #38
L. Coyote Sep 2015 #45
HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #50
L. Coyote Sep 2015 #53
HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #55
L. Coyote Sep 2015 #61
HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #64
djean111 Sep 2015 #51
HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #56
Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #60
L. Coyote Sep 2015 #62
Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #66
Overseas Sep 2015 #5
Rex Sep 2015 #7
HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #10
Rex Sep 2015 #12
Ichigo Kurosaki Sep 2015 #27
murielm99 Sep 2015 #43
Hortensis Sep 2015 #24
perdita9 Sep 2015 #9
HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #11
CreekDog Sep 2015 #46
HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #47
L. Coyote Sep 2015 #48
HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #49
L. Coyote Sep 2015 #52
HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #57
L. Coyote Sep 2015 #63
HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #65
librechik Sep 2015 #13
mountain grammy Sep 2015 #17
packman Sep 2015 #59
zentrum Sep 2015 #18
elehhhhna Sep 2015 #20
kelliekat44 Sep 2015 #21
JDPriestly Sep 2015 #22
C Moon Sep 2015 #23
Enthusiast Sep 2015 #25
Plucketeer Sep 2015 #33
radicalliberal Sep 2015 #35
C Moon Sep 2015 #41
NonMetro Sep 2015 #28
YOHABLO Sep 2015 #31
No Vested Interest Sep 2015 #42
hifiguy Sep 2015 #29
Skittles Sep 2015 #30
valerief Sep 2015 #32
Liberal_in_LA Sep 2015 #34
Beartracks Sep 2015 #36
shenmue Sep 2015 #39
Live and Learn Sep 2015 #40
Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #44
stevenleser Sep 2015 #54
John Poet Sep 2015 #58

Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:19 AM

1. GOP Evil Knows No Limit Or Bound

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:24 AM

2. Cheating is the only way repugs can win

And they know it, which is why they spend so much time coming up with their dirty schemes.

I hope this goes viral and eventually into MSM.

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Response to brush (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 01:29 PM

26. No they use Treason as well remember RayGun and the hostages

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:36 AM

3. To the Greatest Page. We should invade her facebook page here:

 

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:37 AM

4. A couple of corrections.

 

First, the headline is inaccurate. They are NOT colleagues. Rep. Janet Adkins is in the Fl House, Rep. Corrine Brown is in the US House.
Secondly, Rep. Brown colloberated with Fl GOP in gerrymandering her district in order to carve herself out a safe seat. Her hands are not clean, it's the most gerrymandered US Congresssional District in Florida. As a result, it gave safe seats to GOP in neighboring Districts that otherwise would be more competitive. Rep Brown was self-serving, not trying to make FL's districts more fair to Democrats.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:01 AM

6. Important corrections...thank you.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:08 AM

8. True. But this just goes to show that redistricting should NEVER be left to the

politicians.

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Response to 1monster (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:19 AM

14. Fla voters passed a Constitutional Amendment several years ago...

 

...that districts could not be drawn to favor a party or create a safe seat for an incumbent. Florida Legislature has failed in several attempts to do so. The Fla House and Senate can't even agree. It's in the courts hands now.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #14)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:49 AM

15. I'm aware. But I'm not holding my breath. I've lived in Florida for over

forty years.

With the end of Walkin' Lawton Chiles term as governor (didn't he get the last laugh on Jebby by making sure that Jeb was NOT his sucessor!), Florida went off the edge of the cliff that it had been successfully negotiating up until then.

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Response to 1monster (Reply #15)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 12:01 PM

16. Been here 50.

 

I'm holding out hope. The Court deciding the redistricting is the same one that has repeatedly ruled the GOP redistricting plans illegal.
Already in TB area some Republican incumbents are filing for other offices, as they see the writing on the wall in their redrawn districts.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #16)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 12:24 PM

19. Good.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 09:34 PM

37. You are accusing a Dem Congressperson of gerrymandering Florida for the Republicans.

Give us a break!

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #38)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 07:10 AM

45. No, that's just what you say happened.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #45)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:05 AM

50. Links are right there in my post.

 

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #50)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:25 AM

53. The Rs did the gerrymandering, and now post facto you want to blame a Dem. That's absurd and wrong.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #53)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:34 AM

55. And she colloberated with the Rs.

 

And she still is. Why do you think the NAACP harshly criticized her?

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #55)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 02:48 PM

61. So, now you are admitting you were wrong. Well, keep backtracking until you are right.

Because, now you have just modified your falsehood. Time to retract it.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #61)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 02:52 PM

64. WTF? I haven't back-tracked one bit.

 

Is English not your first language?

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #37)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:17 AM

51. A Dem anything in Florida can most likely be a DINO.

 

This is the state where Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, DINO head of the DNC, both campaigned for GOP buddies, and sat out and refused to campaign for Dems because they were running against her GOP buddies.

The Democratic party reeks of self-serving Third Way, down here. And with Debbie deciding who gets support and who does not (she works very closely with the Florida Democratic party), that old admonition to elect progressives is pretty much useless, except at a very local level. Debbie is now pushing a guy for Rubio's seat who was not even a Democrat until about 2012, and only switched so he could run against the GOP incumbent. And the Florida progressive Caucus was threatened with disbandment or something when they objected to this guy and wanted a Progressive to run. That's what Florida is like now. DINO country.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #51)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:38 AM

56. Debbie's goons threatened a AA who filed to run in my district.

 

In order to clear the primary for another of Debbie's ex-GOP pets. The AA forced to withdraw was in fear for his family's safety.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #37)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 11:28 AM

60. I'm afraid this is correct. I suspect it goes on elsewhere as well.

 

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #60)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 02:49 PM

62. You know what they say about opinions and suspicions.

Neeh!

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #62)

Mon Sep 28, 2015, 12:26 PM

66. Well, don't fall in one.

 

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:54 AM

5. K&R. I'm glad this move has been exposed.

Republicans are using all their dirty tricks!

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:06 AM

7. If only gerrymandering was a crime punishable by prison time.

 

Alas, our leaders don't like fair play. Why is that?

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Response to Rex (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:13 AM

10. If that was the case, Rep Brown would be in prison also.

 

She colloberated with the Fl GOP in the original gerrymandering of her district, in order to get herself a safe seat. As a result, it created several safe seats for the GOP in neighboring districts. She is not an innocent victim.
Regardless, the redistricting is no longer in the hands of the Fla Legislature. They have failed several times. It's now in the Courts hands to redraw the districts.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:17 AM

12. Gerrymandering is one of those issues where you can say both parties do it.

 

Yes I know. Texas is in the horrible condition it is in, because back in the day dems and reps decided to carve it up so they didn't have to worry about votes.

And here we are now. A completely fucked up country with districts shaped like an octopus.

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Response to Rex (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 01:32 PM

27. Illinois is one messed up looking state gerrymander wise. [nt]

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Response to Ichigo Kurosaki (Reply #27)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 03:01 AM

43. Yes.

Look at the 17th District.

Although, I have to say that right now, I am relieved we have a Democratic statehouse. Rauner is going to destroy this state otherwise.

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Response to Rex (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 01:18 PM

24. It should be, along with vote and election tampering, with severe sentences.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:12 AM

9. Why isn't this national news?

Deliberately trying to turn someone out of office is a heck of a lot more heinous than having a private email server.

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Response to perdita9 (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:14 AM

11. Because Rep Brown is not an innocent victim.

 

See posts 4 and 10.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 07:17 AM

46. Why do you not want to talk about the racial issue here?

You'll probably say there is none.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #46)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 07:26 AM

47. What the hell are you talking about?

 

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 07:59 AM

48. You blame Dems Reps in racially aggregated gerrymandered districts. That's just ludicrous.

Talk about pinning the donkey on the tail! You are totally confused about cause and effect.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #48)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:02 AM

49. She participated in the gerrymandering.

 

She's not an innocent victim.
Links in post 38.
Rep Brown has even been highly criticized by the NAACP and ACLU for colloberating with the GOP in order to secure herself a safe seat.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/democrat-us-rep-corrine-brown-again-aligns-with-gop-in-florida/1169453

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #49)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:24 AM

52. You are conflating two distinct issues. Don't blame Dems for the gerrymandering by the Rs.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #52)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:40 AM

57. I'll blame Dems who colloberated with Rs in gerrymandering.

 

Why do you think the NAACP harshly criticized Rep Brown?

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/democrat-us-rep-corrine-brown-again-aligns-with-gop-in-florida/1169453

Quote:
"I like Corrine," said Leon Russell, an NAACP leader who has worked on election issues. "But I wish she hadn't done this. I don't think you should frustrate the process purely on basis of your self-interest, no matter who you are."

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #57)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 02:51 PM

63. You blaming someone is a lot different than the facts you falsely assert. Stick to facts instead of

accusing a Dem Congressperson of something they did not do.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #63)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 02:58 PM

65. Whatever. Peep can read my posts and links, and see you're obviously wrong.

 

Nice try...take a Tnx box on your way off the stage.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 11:19 AM

13. Step 2: Put all the black people and liberals in prison. n/t

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Response to librechik (Reply #13)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 12:11 PM

17. Yep.. the ultimate goal.

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Response to librechik (Reply #13)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 10:14 AM

59. It worked in Furguson

it kept a white power structure in office perpetuating their abusive politics and police state. Make a majority of eligible voters ineligible to vote by making them felons on BS charges.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 12:21 PM

18. Can't this be officially investigated?

On the grounds of violating human rights, fundamental rights? There has to be a way to make this a huge stink. A huge story.

I know it's been going on for over a hundred years but with this tape, can't something else happen now?

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 12:48 PM

20. That's RICO shit right there. Conspiracy. Fed charges

 

Taking about it no, doing it, yes.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 01:00 PM

21. Lani Guinier tried to explain how the prison-census-voter link worked and I have been explaining

 

this to DUers for a long time. This is precisely the reason Dr. Guinier was not able to become AG under Clinton when he was forced to back down from her appointment to appease the RW pols. (Never quite forgave him for this move). This relation between prisoners and the census is the primary reason that so many red states and red jurisdictions fight to have prisons built within their districts.

Prisoners count as residents for census purposes thereby entitling more Congressional representation for those districts BUT the prisoners are not allowed to vote. Blue districts and states have lost representation as prisons have been moved and built outside those districts. It is amazing how politically ignorant American voters are about what is going on around them. And the media does a good job of not exposing so many of these ploys. We are lucky to be no worse off than we are, America.

http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/guinier/

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 01:06 PM

22. That is ugly, ugly, ugly.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 01:15 PM

23. She apologized so all is good...

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Response to C Moon (Reply #23)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 01:21 PM

25. True.

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Response to C Moon (Reply #23)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 08:14 PM

33. God forgives her

 

who couild trump that???

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Response to C Moon (Reply #23)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 08:33 PM

35. Adkins: “I apologize if my statements offended anyone."

I've heard this stupid, insulting line many times. This is NOT an apology! It's classic, insincere BS. Public relations baloney.

This person should suffer some repercussions, but I bet there won't be any.

Folks, the moral of the story is "Don't get caught!"

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Response to radicalliberal (Reply #35)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:46 AM

41. True. That's more like an eye-roll than an apology.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 06:44 PM

28. Gerrymandering Leave Millions Of People Without A Voice In Government

In Michigan, on the tea party surge in 2010, the GOP gained control of congress, and gerrymandered this state, using sophisticated software, to the point where it is now not possible for the Democrats to get a majority in either state chamber. And Democrats are a majority here, voting for Obama both times, and we have two Democratic Senators - the only seats the Repiblicans couldn't gerrymander away. There should be a law against this. Minority rule is the opposite of democracy.

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Response to NonMetro (Reply #28)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 08:06 PM

31. So does the electoral college.

 

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Response to NonMetro (Reply #28)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 01:29 AM

42. SAme thing has happened in Ohio nt

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 06:51 PM

29. There really is no end to Repig sleaziness

 

and neo-fascism.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 07:11 PM

30. they know they cannot appeal to black voters with their ideas

so what choice do they have?

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 08:08 PM

32. K&R

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 08:15 PM

34. Ugh

 

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 09:03 PM

36. GOP thinks politics is "played" like Survivor. Which means...

... lie and cheat your way to winning the money/power.

It has nothing to do with public service, in the eyes of conservatives.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2015, 10:42 PM

39. Hello, federal charges!

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 12:01 AM

40. No wonder thay support a high incarceration rate. Disgusting! nt

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 04:24 AM

44. Vile and disgusting.

Thanks for the thread, L. Coyote.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 08:26 AM

54. Before even reading this I guessed it was a Florida Republican.

 

The Republicans down in Florida have an arrogant air about them going back to the mid 1990's.

They have had such a lock on the Florida state legislature that they think they can get away with just about anything down there.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Sun Sep 27, 2015, 10:07 AM

58. Most Republican officeholders are criminals, IMHO.

 

They just need to be investigated.



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