Trump on 60 Minutes tomorrow. Apparently he will say that he will renegotiate NAFTA or tear it up.

[applegrove]

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/09/26/trump-nafta-trade-deal-a-disaster-says-hed-break-it/21241230/

[leftofcool]

1. Oh hell, there are some here on DU that will fall in love with Trump if he says that.

[applegrove]

2. Yup. He's not following the rules of the right. Or left. He's an old time protectionist/nativist.

[Joe Turner]

4. Don't like Trump but I agree with him on this

[RiverLover]

12. +1

I agree with him on this, and along with Elizabeth Warren, I agree with his wanting to raise taxes on billionaires.

Plus its pretty cool he refuses to accept PAC money.

Too bad he's a misogynistic blowhard who doesn't "believe" in climate change.

[joshcryer]

15. Trump is a goddamn Rorschach test for single issuers.

Of course, when it comes to reality, single issue voters or posters or whatever are full of it. They latch on to that single issue because it's an easy argument for them, but when it comes down to it they don't actually believe the single issue that they believe in is more important than the whole.

Those that do are not very bright.

[cheapdate]

3. He can't "tear it up". It's a ratified treaty and public law. What an ass he is.

[Joe Turner]

5. A treaty can be broken

for any reason. In this case it just so happens that instead of creating new high paying jobs like it was sold to congress on, it resulted in a mass exportation of high paying jobs from this country. That alone is more than enough reason to strike this treaty down and others like it.

[cheapdate]

6. It can be "broken" under the terms of the treaty,

or it can be voted on in Congress to repeal some or all of the treaty. But it can't simply be "torn up" -- not legally anyway. A ratified treaty is public law and it takes action by congress to change it.

[Joe Turner]

7. It can be made null and void

if it is not in the public interest. Which it is clearly not. An executive order can take care of this one. I'd like to see the congressional votes to over-ride an executive order on this. WOULD NOT HAPPEN.

[MFrohike]

8. Not exactly

There's precedent to suggest that a president can do exactly what Trump suggests. Jimmy Carter and W both terminated defense treaties on their initiative. Carter's situation made it to the Supreme Court (Goldwater v. Carter) and the court declined to rule, trotting out the political question doctrine. While both of those situations dealt with areas clearly in the area of the executive's authority and expertise, it's possible that a future court could rule the same way on a decision by the executive to rescind a trade treaty, particularly if the executive could show the treaty is incompatible with the constitution.

[RiverLover]

13. Acc to the OP, the US can withdraw with 6 months notice.

OP~

COULD TRUMP 'BREAK' A TRADE DEAL?

NAFTA governs trade between the U.S., Canada and Mexico. The U.S. is allowed to withdraw from the agreement, so long as it provides six months' notice, said Douglas Irwin, a professor of economics at Dartmouth and an expert on U.S. trade policy.

And I like what he said as reported by The Hill~

"We need fair trade, not free trade."
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/255053-trump-vows-to-renegotiate-or-break-trade-pact-with-mexico-canada

lol. wow. A friend of mine who is a Democrat told me she is convinced Trump is really a Democrat. haha Maybe she's right.

[joshcryer]

16. Would require an act of Congress.

There have been attempts in the past to do it: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr156

The President alone cannot unilaterally withdraw from a treaty since treaties are ratified by Congress and therefore can only be revoked by Congress.

[RiverLover]

20. That's so disappointing. Our congress is bought by the corp's benefitting from shipping our jobs

to Mexico (& China). It would never pass congress....Its such a shame, for lack of a better word, that Clinton set up these deals in the first place.

[cheapdate]

23. Yes, the treaty includes provisions for withdrawing.

[Le Taz Hot]

18. Yeah, you might want to talk to

the Native Americans about that treaty thing. Seriously? Politically? It's a smart move. He's playing to what resonates.

[cheapdate]

24. I'm very aware of the history of the displacement of Native Americans

from their land in this country. My hometown (Mobile, AL) was Muscogee (Creek) country. In the Creek War of 1813-1814, the Choctaw (Lower Creek) sided with the White settlers. In appreciation, the then Governor of the territory signed a proclamation pledging that the people of Alabama would "never forget" the debt owed to the Choctaw Nation. Fifteen years later, the new Governor of Alabama signed the Choctaw Removal Act.

Whether or not Trump's campaign is "smart" is a matter of opinion. He's a careless loudmouth and a rising demagogue. He's "smart" in the same way that a rapist who carefully conceals his crime is "smart".

[AppalachianAmerican]

9. Broken clock.

Although I'd never vote for him, I applaud his position on this.

[lpbk2713]

10. Interesting, but I gave up on 60 Minutes a couple of years ago.

I used to watch it regularly but they stopped being what they
started out to be. It went downhill after Don Hewitt left.

[pampango]

11. The man knows his base. They also want the US out of the WTO and the UN so those may be next

on the Trump hit list.

Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump says he wants to be able to slap tariffs on U.S. companies that choose to make their products overseas, and he's willing to violate existing trade deals to do it.

He really is a 21st century Herbert Hoover/Calvin Coolidge clone. Higher tariffs and lower immigration will solve our problems. That did not solve our economic problems at the time - something that FDR understood - but they always seem appealing so each generation tries them all over again.

[joshcryer]

17. Importantly, stuff like this should appeal to some on the white male left.

Which is disturbing to say the least.

[bklyncowgirl]

14. If he wasn't an arrogant, racist, sexist blowhard with delusions of godhood I could vote for him.

I will vote for Bernie Sanders who shares pretty much the same position.

[joshcryer]

19. Please don't' mention Trump and Sanders in the same post.

[IDemo]

21. Trump: "I will teleport water to California and bend a spoon with mind-power if elected" n/t

[Katashi_itto]

22. I agree with him on this.

[AzDar]

25. Good on Trump.

He's still an Orange Nightmare...

[ChisolmTrailDem]

26. Could you please at least post an excerpt next time, instead of just a link?

I really have no reason to go to AOL to look at anything Trump says without some indication beforehand if it's the same bullshit we always here from him (in which case it's a waste of time) or if he's actually (even accidetally) speaking rationally or practically?

We had this discussion a little over a week ago: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7183756

Thank you.

[PoliticAverse]

27. Not the first candidate to promise to renegotiate it...

[kelly1mm]

28. Thanks for the link! I thought I remembered President Obama saying something similar. nt