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damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 08:28 PM Sep 2015

Never Woman Enough: How Trans Women Are Held to Unrealistic Standards

The word transgender can otherwise be defined as a person whose self-identity does not conform to the conventional notions of being a man or a woman. By definition, being transgender means being a non-conformist. So, it is an excitingly rare occurrence that the issue has been on the forefront of so much media coverage recently.

*However, for many transgender people, such a dramatic transformation is simply unrealistic and from a practical standpoint, unaffordable. If Caitlyn had come out in 1976, the year she received an Olympic gold medal, such a medal would never have been received. This is because it is of upmost difficulty for a trans individual to participate in sports, being that sports are primarily divided into girls teams and boys teams. Struggles like these are ones that trans people face every day, and that the media often fails to cover.

This became especially evident to me upon my conversation with Delfin Bautista, who is the head of the LGBTQ center at the university I attend and who identifies as being trans, specifically Two-Spirit or genderqueer. For people like Delfin, the only way to attain the proper hormones needed in order to become a "woman" or a "man" in the eyes of the public would be to become properly diagnosed with a mental health problem saying that you need these drugs because of this issue which you are unfortunate enough to have been born with.

"This is who I am. It's not a diagnosis," Delfin says, "However, there are many who are willing to, if you will, play the game and admit to having a problem in order to be who they need to be." While many trans people have sadly developed mental health issues due to the ridicule they have received from their peers or from simply feeling outcast, being transgender in itself is an identity, NOT a mental health issue."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/unwritten/never-woman-enough-how-tr_b_8166308.html?utm_hp_ref=transgender

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Never Woman Enough: How Trans Women Are Held to Unrealistic Standards (Original Post) damnedifIknow Sep 2015 OP
"being transgender in itself is an identity, NOT a mental health issue." grntuscarora Sep 2015 #1
You're welcome damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #9
K&R nt Mnemosyne Sep 2015 #2
How would it have been fair for Caitlyn Jenner to compete as a woman in 1976, pnwmom Sep 2015 #3
My impression grntuscarora Sep 2015 #4
I don't think she would have been barred from competing as a male. pnwmom Sep 2015 #5
Would they have accepted her on the U.S. male Olympic team at that time? grntuscarora Sep 2015 #6
She would have passed a DNA test. Did they have some other test? pnwmom Sep 2015 #7
Seriously? grntuscarora Sep 2015 #8
She would have been ostracized gollygee Sep 2015 #19
Women were not allowed to compete in the Decathlon in 1976 davidn3600 Sep 2015 #10
Not this canard again? Aerows Sep 2015 #15
Caitlyn did not win gold, Bruce did. Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #11
Same person only it is polite to refer to her as Caitlyn nt LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #13
Of course it is correct to refer to Caitlyn as Caiitlyn. Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #16
Great post! Here is hoping the transphobe don't ruin this thread LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #12
All women are held to unrealistic standards ecstatic Sep 2015 #14
mine as well. nt End Of The Road Sep 2015 #18
This is true, however in this situation this comes off just like gollygee Sep 2015 #20
^This exactly! nt LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #21
K & R beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #17

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
1. "being transgender in itself is an identity, NOT a mental health issue."
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 09:10 PM
Sep 2015

Yes, yes, & yes.
Proud parent of a transgender 18year old, who last week found the courage to come out to extended family and friends.
My child does not suffer from a mental health issue--he is a well-adjusted, caring and productive member of society.
Good article--thanks for posting the link.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
3. How would it have been fair for Caitlyn Jenner to compete as a woman in 1976,
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 10:16 PM
Sep 2015

with essentially a male body?

Are all women to be denied the chance to compete only against each other, with the only possibility being competitions open to anyone regardless of gender?

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
4. My impression
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 10:24 PM
Sep 2015

reading the article was that she would not have been allowed to compete at the Olympic level at all, had she come out at that time.
But perhaps I misinterpreted the wording of the article.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
5. I don't think she would have been barred from competing as a male.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 10:50 PM
Sep 2015

They would have thought she was a male with a mental illness, but that wouldn't have been a bar in itself.

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
6. Would they have accepted her on the U.S. male Olympic team at that time?
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 10:55 PM
Sep 2015

I doubt it.
But we'll never know for sure, I guess.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
19. She would have been ostracized
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 07:18 AM
Sep 2015

even if she was able to by Olympic rules, she wouldn't have been accepted on the team by her teammates.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
10. Women were not allowed to compete in the Decathlon in 1976
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 12:15 AM
Sep 2015

There was no female equivalent of that event at the time.

Author may have forgot about that as I didn't see it mentioned.

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
11. Caitlyn did not win gold, Bruce did.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 12:25 AM
Sep 2015

I don't really get the point about this competion/gender thing. I do remember something about Renee Richards attempting to play women's pro tennis. (I don't care enough to look it up.)

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)
16. Of course it is correct to refer to Caitlyn as Caiitlyn.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 12:56 AM
Sep 2015

But I bet even Caitlyn would say it was Bruse who won gold.

LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
12. Great post! Here is hoping the transphobe don't ruin this thread
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 12:37 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:07 AM - Edit history (2)

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]But given that quite a few posts are already hidden from my view I guess that is too late.

Maybe one day transpeople will find full acceptance on DU and then in society as a whole.[/font]

Edit: meant to say "don't ruin"

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
20. This is true, however in this situation this comes off just like
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 07:20 AM
Sep 2015

All Lives Matter when said in response to Black Lives Matter. Yes, all lives matter, but black people face much greater threat.

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