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Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 05:28 PM Sep 2015

Saudi Arabia: Can this possibly be happening?

I thought I was as jaded and cynical as anyone here but......!!!!!!??????

>>>>Saudi Arabia is about to behead a 21-year-old man and then crucify him to display his body in public. This same country was just chosen to head a U.N. Human Rights Council panel. If it weren’t so serious this would be funny!

Ali Mohammed al-Nimr was arrested when he was 17 for participating in demonstrations against the government, then he was convicted under torture. But his case is not an exception in the kingdom -- Saudi Arabia has executed more than 100 people this year, that’s a rate of one every 2 days!

France has already requested that Saudis stop this execution, but the US, Germany, and the UK also have very cosy relationships with the regime. The best way to get urgent action is to channel our outrage to these leaders who can persuade their Saudi allies. Sign up now to save Ali, and then stop this human rights farce, his execution could happen anytime.>>>

There's an online petition:
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/stop_saudi_beheadings_loc/?fzPDdcb&pv=103

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Saudi Arabia: Can this possibly be happening? (Original Post) Smarmie Doofus Sep 2015 OP
SA is the anus mundi - hifiguy Sep 2015 #1
The present head so-and-so in charge, Salman, is regarded as fishy..... MADem Sep 2015 #2
That does not change the fact that the current regime is a US ally... Fumesucker Sep 2015 #19
No, it doesn't. But it's interesting that this coup plot is getting MADem Sep 2015 #21
They are our good friends like communist China. Rex Sep 2015 #3
China is different. There are a billion people in China. If we can sell each one an aspirin... Hoppy Sep 2015 #15
Yes Jesus Malverde Sep 2015 #4
Can we send Dubya? He'll give'em a kiss! WinkyDink Sep 2015 #5
Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #12
Who are you to argue with Allah? snagglepuss Sep 2015 #6
Sam Harris is right. hifiguy Sep 2015 #10
proxies tend to take after their puppetmasters MisterP Sep 2015 #7
Sure it can be happening gratuitous Sep 2015 #8
Shouldn't we have invaded those clowns after 9/11? whatchamacallit Sep 2015 #9
... napkinz Sep 2015 #11
They are going to crucify him first angryvet Sep 2015 #13
Absolutely horrible, isn't it. polly7 Sep 2015 #14
They have a death sentence that is more strict than the USA, thats for sure. But we place people in Sunlei Sep 2015 #16
This is a kid jailed for protesting the government, arrested and tortured as a minor. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #18
Look at the number of people released from death row in the US Fumesucker Sep 2015 #20
If we were serious about ending human rights abuses, we'd go after them instead of Iran or wherever XemaSab Sep 2015 #17
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
1. SA is the anus mundi -
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 05:33 PM
Sep 2015

the asshole of the world.

Zombie apocalypse would be the best thing that could happen there.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. The present head so-and-so in charge, Salman, is regarded as fishy.....
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 05:33 PM
Sep 2015

There is an INTERNAL COUP being fomented against him. Shit like this might be part of the reason.

The papers are cutely calling it a "regime change" -- an internal one, certainly -- but we're talking COUP, here.

We'll see if the princes who are trying to pull this off are successful, or if they end up crucified.

FWIW, you are missing a LINK to your story and petition.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
21. No, it doesn't. But it's interesting that this coup plot is getting
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:54 PM
Sep 2015

play in major papers here, in UK, in France, all over the Middle East, etc.

We have no role in how the leadership is chosen, there. There are a shitload of princes, and there is a pecking order.

I would venture to say that pressure is being put upon Salman to step down to a cushy retirement--or else. We'll see if he can withstand the slings and arrows. I hope he does not prevail, frankly.

If I were Salman, in the meantime, while he tries to decide if a life looking over his shoulder, with power, is preferable to one relaxing by the pool, I'd change out my food tasters regularly--and I'd never once have a meal without one on the job.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
15. China is different. There are a billion people in China. If we can sell each one an aspirin...
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 08:01 PM
Sep 2015

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
4. Yes
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 05:34 PM
Sep 2015

In fact the murderous Saudi regime is killing any opponents in a desperate bid to keep their Monaco lifestyle alive.

Appears they are killing people every two days.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-executions-amnesty-international-beheadings-death-sentences-rate-under-king-salman-10470456.html

According to a new 44-page report released by the charity today, at least 2,208 people have been executed in Saudi Arabia since January 1985.

Nearly half of those, 48.5 per cent, were of foreign nationals, who Amnesty said suffer disproportionately under the Saudi justice system because of a combination of xenophobic prejudice and a lack of Arabic to understand proceedings.

Response to WinkyDink (Reply #5)

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
6. Who are you to argue with Allah?
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 06:04 PM
Sep 2015

(surah 47:4): “When you meet the unbelievers strike their necks till you have bloodied them.”



“those who fight God and his Messenger” and fail to repent are “to be killed, crucified, have their hands and feet cut off on opposite sides, or to be banished from the land” (surah 5:33).

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
10. Sam Harris is right.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 06:16 PM
Sep 2015

And anyone who can't see that is willfully blind and deluding only themselves.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Sure it can be happening
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 06:12 PM
Sep 2015

And if the United States hadn't shot its credibility on this very issue over the last 15 years or so (and persisting to this day, cf. Oklahoma), we could publicly protest this barbaric act. As it is, we can only shrug and mutter, "Whaddaya gonna do?"

angryvet

(181 posts)
13. They are going to crucify him first
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 07:26 PM
Sep 2015

and then behead him. While I agree this is deplorable....you ought to try living there... the other order makes no sense.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
14. Absolutely horrible, isn't it.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 07:32 PM
Sep 2015

That poor man.

Here's a little more on our 'best friends' in the ME and the appointment to the Human Rights Council.

They are a sick, sick country (gov't).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016132745

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
16. They have a death sentence that is more strict than the USA, thats for sure. But we place people in
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 08:24 PM
Sep 2015

horrible jails for decades, their families lives are ruined. Their communities are disadvantaged because of our criminal justice 'system' That's torture too for a lot of people.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. This is a kid jailed for protesting the government, arrested and tortured as a minor.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:46 PM
Sep 2015

It is interesting that you are so willing to equate a 17 year old protester with those convicted of actual crimes in order to excuse an extreme example of abusive government.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
20. Look at the number of people released from death row in the US
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:11 PM
Sep 2015

I think it's a given that innocents have been executed in America.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
17. If we were serious about ending human rights abuses, we'd go after them instead of Iran or wherever
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 08:30 PM
Sep 2015

What can it po$$ibly be about the $audie$ that make$ them $uch good allie$?

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