The Pope DID meet Davis!

[dorkzilla]

Well color me hoodwinked. Bad move, Frank. Now I can go back to hating the Catholic Church without reservation. Thanks!

Had to add this funny FB post from Andy Borowitz "By meeting both Congress and Kim Davis, the Pope showed compassion for people who refuse to do their jobs."


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/vatican-confirms-pope-francis-met-with-kentucky-clerk-kim-davis/comments/

[Human101948]

1. Pope turns out to be a major asshole...

Who could have known?

[dorkzilla]

5. I was *hopeful* that he’d change his stance sooner or later

But meeting with this bigoted asshole has totally turned me off to him. And why would he keep it secret unless he knew it was not going to sit well with the American public.

I’m glad he’s sticking it to the Man-he just doesn’t want a man to be sticking it in another man. Maybe he’ll do some good for the poor and the environment but he’s still the same old bigoted fuckwad that has always been in that position.

Fuck That Noise.

[Codeine]

2. Say it ain't so, Papa McDreamy!!

Bigots be crazy!!

[Peregrine Took]

3. I'm waiting for National Catholic Reporter to come out with the behind the scene story.

If he thinks she is so wonderful - why was the meeting so secretive? I read that it was all set up by some muckety muck(s) in the Vatican and the American bishops didn't even know about it.

HUGE error on his part. I bet they regret the hell out of it now.

[dorkzilla]

7. Huge error indeed.

I’m starting to see this whole PR campaign as nothing more than a ploy to try and bring lapsed Catholics back to the flock...and put money in the collection basket.

[stillwaiting]

4. Validating her is truly horrible. Seems like he's just dividing the people at this point.

Give both sides moral support (conservatives on social issues and liberals on economic issues) and then let them go at it.

Religion's been good at dividing people for a very long time.

[frogmarch]

6. He said he doesn't deny meeting with Davis, but

he won't come right out and say he did meet with her. If he met with her, why won't he confirm it by saying he did?

Maybe he doesn't want to expose a fellow hater of gays as a liar by letting it out that he didn't meet with her.

[dorkzilla]

8. As Eric Idle said “a nod is as good as a wink to a blind bat"

No what I mean, eh eh, nudge nudge, wink wink.

He wouldn’t want his newly-made and now, it seems, unfounded adoration to be tarnished for the sake of one dumb broad in America. He met her, he got “caught”, realized what a fucking tragic, stupid, careless move that was and now won’t say anything other than “yeah I met her”.

[procon]

9. This was a major PR error on the part of the pope.

By distinctly aligning himself with a partisan political agenda and giving credence to this oddball Davis and her handlers, he's planted his flag atop Bullshit Mountain.

[meow2u3]

11. I think Kimmie is lying again

The Pope was in Washington, DC, NYC, and Philadelphia. He never stepped foot in Kentucky, where Kimmie is.

I don't buy the "secret meeting with the Pope" hoax. Nor do I trust anything as true coming from Kimmie.

[dorkzilla]

12. The Vatican confirmed the meeting.

I wish it weren’t so, but alas, it is.

And so we bid farewell to the Pope’s progressive fans....

[Bluenorthwest]

13. On Friday, Davis was given an award in DC by Family Research Council and Tony Perkins

Last November FRC and Perkins were invited participants at the Vatican's 3 day anti marriage equality conference where Francis was the key speaker. The Vatican official who organized the Rome conference in November also organized the Philly conference this week.
It's a small world. Kim and the Pope have friends in common.

[dorkzilla]

17. Fucking gross, that.

I was unaware of that meeting until you responded with a link to the Times article. No wonder you were less skeptical than I was...thank you for enlightening me.

[pnwmom]

14. If the Pope meant for this to be a public event with public consequences

he wouldn't have made it a private meeting and had the Vatican issue the non-denial.

[rug]

15. Listen to this:

http://www.npr.org/2015/09/30/444790845/kim-davis-met-pope-francis-in-washington-d-c-attorney-says

The only thing confirmed is that they met for less than 15 minutes, not why, nor at whose request, nor what was said.

[Dont call me Shirley]

16. So the Catholic church continues to uphold hatred. Let it go, Pope, let it go!

[beam me up scottie]

18. And now that the denial is over the spin will begin...

But we don't know WHY he met with her!

Or whose idea it was!

Or what he said!

This means NOTHING!!1!

Stop talking about it!

[dorkzilla]

19. The former Catholic in me wants to believe this was a canny PR stunt by his enemies at the Vatican

to tarnish his newly-found popularity. Don’t want the Catholic Progressives to get ahead of themselves, or else they’ll turn into Episcopalians!

The Atheist in me says “poppycock, you’ve been had, you naive woman, you.”

And I was even more crestfallen when the Dalai Lama said that thing about a female lama last week.

I haz a sad, BMUS, I haz a sad.

[beam me up scottie]

20. I feel for you, a lot of people wanted this guy to be different.

Don't forget the Pope hired an ex Fox news pr guy to polish up his image and sell him to the public so it's hard to believe that he didn't know how this would look.

He knew what he was doing.

[dorkzilla]

21. I didn’t know that either :(

God, I am SUCH a loser! Why don’t I know these things? Yeah, I was busy opening a business and getting a chronic disease but still, you’d think I’d know about basic shit like this.

[beam me up scottie]

22. OMG, don't SAY that!

Only truly dedicated atheists who hang out at our clubhouse know about that.

You are one of my favourite peeps, dorkzilla!

The fact that you can admit you were fooled and feel bad about it makes me love you even more!

[dorkzilla]

25. Aw, shucks, thanks BMUS!

Backatcha!

[PeaceNikki]

23. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WAS DISCUSSED!!! 11!!

[beam me up scottie]

24. They probably talked about fall foliage!

Or shoes!

[PeaceNikki]

26. Favorite shitty dress patterns. The eclipse. Dancing With The Stars.

We just don't know.

[beam me up scottie]

28. Right? Who could even hazard a guess? They have so much in common!

[ronnykmarshall]

40. I wish he would have taken one look at her and said this:

[beam me up scottie]

41. LMAO!!!

Classic!

[LiberalElite]

27. yes the small bit of warm n fuzzy

i was feeling is gone, gone, gone.

[lumberjack_jeff]

29. Hartmann had an interesting take on this.

Thom "met with" the previous Pope. During state visits the Vatican ambassador arranges "audiences" - a photo op - with several dozen invitees. They form a line and do the "hi how are you?" thing. A meeting lasts a few seconds. The entire session takes maybe a half-hour.

He speculates that Davis was the guest of some Republican elected official, he doubts that the embassy would be so stupid as to invite such a divisive figure.

I find this plausible.

[lonestarnot]

30. Andy is the bomb.

[malaise]

31. They deserve one another

[dorkzilla]

50. yes, malaise, they do! nt

[RKP5637]

32. I've gotta read more closely. At first I thought this said "The Pope DID Davis!"

[dorkzilla]

35. Bravo - your mind occupies basically the same sphere mine does LOL :) nt

[Hiraeth]

33. Perhaps he counseled her that her faith was being tested

and that true courage would be to quit her job and step out in blind faith that the good Lord will provide.

I don't get the rah-rah about all this.

[Texasgal]

36. Really?

Did no one expect this?

When was the last time the catholic church supported ANYTHING LGBT???

I have no idea why people are shocked about this!

[dorkzilla]

37. I admit I was duped

I hoped more than I rationalized. My bad.

I also believed in Santa Claus at one point.

[Texasgal]

39. Hey, I understand.

I often look for goodness as well.

A fault sometimes. I hear ya.

[dorkzilla]

43. Kinda depressing, innit?

Then again, our outlook kind of mirrors who we are - we trust because we are trustworthy, and view others through our own lens. We are apt to be disappointed by our trusting view...hopefully not so much that we cease to be who we are.

[ronnykmarshall]

44. What about Santa???

No! NO! NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

[dorkzilla]

45. Ronny, we need to talk...

...about the rabbit that comes in Spring...

[ronnykmarshall]

46. LOL!!!

I don't want hear about my baby teeth !!!!!!

[dorkzilla]

47. Erm...never mind. nt

[ronnykmarshall]

38. and he can bite the big one now.

I was digging ol' Frank. But no more. Bye!

[dorkzilla]

42. Same here.

We are hopeful creatures, are we not?

[Deadshot]

48. I've been telling everyone since day one that Pope Frank isn't that great.

I don't know why any of you are surprised by this. Many of you were duped by his PR team.

[dorkzilla]

49. Some of us are feely admitting they were wrong without being prompted

With all due respect, to say “told you so” isn’t exactly the high road. You were right. I admitted I was wrong. if you feel like patting yourself on the back go right ahead. I think the majority of us who were giving him a pass were lapsed Catholics who already found plenty to disagree with- hence the lapsed, ex, or atheist prefix.

I don’t mean any bad-will, its just I’m straight out fucking tired of hearing this after I admitted I was dead wrong.

[Deadshot]

52. The high road gets one nowhere.

[hrmjustin]

51. Sorry to see he met with her. Disappointed!

[dorkzilla]

53. Yeah it sucks, Justin. I was so naively hopeful too.

I was hoping he’d come in time to start really practicing the “Love one another as I have loved you” part of Jesus’ message and that would mean EVERYONE - LGBT, divorced, women who’ve had abortions, etc etc, but it seems my old church is just as ass-backward as they were when they put Galileo in jail.

The one good thing he did was to knock Trump out of the media spotlight for a few days, and that was kind of a miracle in itself!!!