Caitlyn Jenner will not face criminal charges in auto accident.

[pnwmom]

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This doesn't surprise me since she wasn't DUI and wasn't using a cell phone. She made a mistake, like millions of drivers do every day.

I've been hit from behind twice by distracted drivers, and I wouldn't vote to send them to prison.

Jenner can still be sued for civil, monetary damages, which is appropriate.

http://www.people.com/article/caitlyn-jenner-not-charged-car-accident

Caitlyn Jenner will not be charged in the February car wreck that left a woman dead.

The Los Angeles district attorney decided Wednesday that there is not enough evidence to charge the reality star with manslaughter or a misdemeanor and that the office "cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt" that her "conduct was unreasonable," according to court papers obtained by PEOPLE.


UPDATE:

I'm wondering if the people who are criticizing her for not driving safely "for the conditions" has ever driven on one of these California roads, or any road with conditions like this. If you are driving on a highway like that and try to maintain several car lengths between you and the next driver, and/or if you poke along below the speed limit, you will immediately have multiple cars passing you in order to fill that space you were trying to maintain.

In that part of California, in the Seattle area, and on many other busy highways it is almost impossible to always drive in the safest way. The other cars simply won't let you maintain 4 car lengths for 40 mph, or 6 car lengths for 60 mph. They will fill in the "gap."

[NobodyHere]

1. It must be nice to be rich

[Drahthaardogs]

6. No shit.

The rear ender is almost always guilty of following too close. Should be facing manslaughter charges.

[Owl]

10. Exactly.

[lonestarnot]

11. Civil wrongful death due to negligence hasn't been heard yet.

[bernmobile2016]

19. not for long!

$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is coming for the victim's family

[Fumesucker]

24. A good lawyer can put something like that off for years

[Mike Nelson]

2. Wealth has...

...its privileges.

[Human101948]

3. Someone without a high powered lawyer would be sitting in jail right now...

In this case probably paid for by the reality TV production company.

[pnwmom]

4. On what basis? People have rear-enders every day and aren't prosecuted

unless there are other circumstances, like drugs, alcohol, or cell phones. She wasn't speeding, either.

[Drahthaardogs]

7. Ask your insurance agent.

I think you will find you are wrong. If you hit someone from behind it means you were following too close. There are few exceptions.

[pnwmom]

8. I don't have to ask my insurance agent. As I said in the OP, she is STILL subject

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to financial damages, which is what an insurance agent will become involved with.

Insurance agents aren't involved in pressing criminal charges.

[dembotoz]

5. no surprise here

[840high]

9. 1 person dead, 7 injured - I don't

understand this ruling.

[WillowTree]

22. The fact that she didn't cause the accident in the first place might have something to do with it.

[Initech]

12. Those assholes who sued the deceased in the accident for $20 million...

Should be the ones facing charges. Sounds like they are playing the "blame the victim" game.

[Goblinmonger]

17. She did cross the center line

And you do know that you have to include all parties in a lawsuit so that they can get released if they aren't responsible? But she contributed to things as well, so she's going to be sued.

[Initech]

25. Yeah but they are suing for like $40 million in damages.

I think these people just want some of that sweet Kardashian money.

[Goblinmonger]

27. How much would you take to have a loved one killed?

What they demand and what they want and what they think they will get are three very things.

[Initech]

28. The deceased party is the one getting sued for $20 million!!

I don't know how much clearer I can make that! Is not lower than low?

Here's a link: http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/estate-woman-killed-caitlyn-jenner-wreck-sued-article-1.2339490

[Goblinmonger]

29. Well, you talked about people wanting Kardashian money

so it wasn't as clear as you wanted it to be.

But, you do know that the deceased crossed the center line, right? That makes her culpable for at least a portion of the accident. I don't think anybody is saying she is 100% at fault, but a jury will decide the percentage of contribution she had to the accident and that will determine how much money she owes once the damages are determined by the same jury.

It's not lower than low. She contributed to the accident. Just because she died after she did so does not make her less culpable.

[Snobblevitch]

13. I don't know why there was not at least a misdemeanor charge.

I might get flamed for this, if there was a charge, Caitlyn would be charged for Bruce's crime, an odd juxtoppsition.

[pnwmom]

14. On what basis? The fact that someone died does not determine the charges.

He was not under the influence of anything, distracted by a phone, or speeding.

This is exactly why we have civil courts for pursing non-criminal damages.

[Snobblevitch]

15. I know a guy who made a left turn in front of a car and they collided.

He got a citation for failure to yield. Isn't rearebding another car some sort of traffic violation?

I hope the family of the victim is awarded a huge judgement from Jenner. She can afford it and should probably negotiate freely with the victim's family's lawyer to get it done with the least hassle. She needs to take tesponsibility for her actions.

[pnwmom]

16. I'm sure whoever is the beneficiary of the victim's estate will get a substantial settlement,

one way or another.

But since the victim had already cut her stepchildren out of the will, I doubt that it should be them.

[WillowTree]

23. Rearending another car is not a traffic violation in and of itself anywhere as far as I know.

In this case, one car stopped in the roadway for reasons that were undetermined reasons last I heard. The lady in the Lexus rearended that car. And then Jenner ran into that collision. That's a fairly well traveled roadway and, as on many such roads, it isn't always possible to maintain that old "one car length for each 10 mph" distance from the car in front of you. From all I've read about it, there was no evidence that Jenner was speeding or impaired or distracted or otherwise in violation of any traffic laws that I can find record of anywhere online (though it's entirely possible that I may have missed something, I suppose). So why should she be held to account for something that hasn't been shown to be any fault of hers when the lady who was killed was at least as much at fault?

[Goblinmonger]

18. Traveling too fast for conditions

Just because she was going under the speed limit that was posted does not mean that that is the speed limit that was safe given the conditions. People are charged all the time even though they are under the posted limit because they should have been going even slower than they were and not following as closely as they were.

[pnwmom]

21. But just because there was a collision isn't prima facie evidence that a crime occurred.

The police, unlike us, had access to all the evidence.

Now it will be up to the civil courts to provide a measure of justice here.

[pnwmom]

30. But obviously these conditions changed very quickly. And California has pile-ups very

frequently. If you are driving on a highway like that and try to maintain several car lengths between you and the next driver, and/or if you poke along below the speed limit, you will immediately have multiple cars passing you and filling that space you were trying to maintain.

It is almost impossible on busy roads in many areas to always drive in the safest way.

[hrmjustin]

20. Wealth and fame helped her.

[Eleanors38]

26. Celeb, now.

[REP]

31. I live in California, daily driver on one of the most dangerous highways in California

'Making a mistake' my ass. She's old enough to know how to drive in California by now, but the rules don't apply to the rich. Fuck her.

[pnwmom]

32. What law did she break? The prosecution didn't find one.

Multiple-car collisions occur on busy California highways all the time, and people who have been following the law don't go to jail for them.

[REP]

33. Right. Because they don't want to foster friendly relations with celebs in LA County.

They probably are trying to avoid any controversy since she has come out publicly with her trans status since she caused a fatal wreck by following too closely. Because the rich, well-connected and famous gets no perks anywhere.

[pnwmom]

34. How do you not follow too closely when all the cars are following too closely?

If you leave enough space, how do you prevent other cars from passing you and filling in the gap?

How can you predict when conditions will suddenly change because someone in front of you suddenly stops?

[REP]

35. Geezus, I'm not going to teach you how to drive.

Maybe you should look into one of those "Mature Driver Defensive Driving" courses. You'll get a discount on your insurance (if you pass).

[pnwmom]

36. You can't provide a logical, reasoned answer, so you resort to a personal insult.

Typical.

[REP]

37. If you say so. I'm not the one who can't figure out how to drive in traffic.

You go ahead and post something and have the last word.

[alphafemale]

38. The person following on front of Bruce at the time managed o come to a stop.

Bruce hit that car at such a high rate of speed that she was pushed into another lane of traffic and died.

He was obviously distracted by something.

It is horribly bad driving if you kill someone who is stopped.