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My furious President (Original Post) Mira Oct 2015 OP
Glad to see him ticked at those who promote more guns. Of course, the Gun Protection Society Hoyt Oct 2015 #1
To bad he wasn't ticked when we had the house and yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #2
+1 melman Oct 2015 #4
Unfair. ellisonz Oct 2015 #5
Yes. Thank you mcar Oct 2015 #9
Actually zipplewrath Oct 2015 #36
You are correct on Afghanistan. ellisonz Oct 2015 #43
Yeah, politics really is that easy. randome Oct 2015 #8
Oh FFS sharp_stick Oct 2015 #10
How many hours do you suppose that era contained? treestar Oct 2015 #11
unrec panader0 Oct 2015 #12
Well... During that time we did get the ACA. Glassunion Oct 2015 #16
Yep LittleBlue Oct 2015 #20
Transparent alcibiades_mystery Oct 2015 #29
Oh well can't win em all. yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #46
Repeatedly debunked faux theme. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #31
Wrong! Read up! yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #47
Obama has nothing to lose, and all to gain SmittynMo Oct 2015 #18
That is how a leader should act.... Punkingal Oct 2015 #3
I'm sure his daughters are on his mind, too. Frustratedlady Oct 2015 #6
To jump thhe shark means to devolve into absurdty and uselessness. Don't you mean the tblue37 Oct 2015 #7
Agreed. Old Crow Oct 2015 #13
Thanks for your pm - I have now responded Mira Oct 2015 #22
My pleasure. Old Crow Oct 2015 #26
I was excited. Mira Oct 2015 #21
Finally Obama is comin' for my guns!!! Glassunion Oct 2015 #14
I have had it madokie Oct 2015 #15
We've all had it!!! SmittynMo Oct 2015 #17
When you "jump the shark" it basically means you've stayed too long at the fair and are out of ideas MADem Oct 2015 #19
Boiled over. Perfect! Wish I had thought of it Mira Oct 2015 #24
No worries--no crime in editing, either--you can still do it, if you'd like! nt MADem Oct 2015 #41
With all my apologies already in this thread, Mira Oct 2015 #42
Well, Mira, for whatever it's worth, I agree with your sentiment--we need to get MADem Oct 2015 #44
He's not holding back flamingdem Oct 2015 #23
This is a big part of the issue SmittynMo Oct 2015 #27
Bernie was just on Chris Hayes show flamingdem Oct 2015 #28
Obama is clearly now far to the left of Sanders on gun solutions and Clinton will be there soon. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #32
Pedant response. longship Oct 2015 #25
Appreciated. Other than that Mira Oct 2015 #33
Yes, his speech was right on target. longship Oct 2015 #34
Thanks - your understanding is appreciated. I remember that Mira Oct 2015 #35
Those damned doorbells. longship Oct 2015 #37
... Mira Oct 2015 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #30
I ony wish he would call out the NRA by name elmac Oct 2015 #38
I'm counting on it being next. Mira Oct 2015 #40
Kick &R n/t Dalai_1 Oct 2015 #45
He was so pissed, I noticed his left eye was twitching. vanlassie Oct 2015 #48
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Glad to see him ticked at those who promote more guns. Of course, the Gun Protection Society
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 06:46 PM
Oct 2015

will be here to claim Democrats should not do anything because it will cost us votes. Time to tell them to stuff their gun lust.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. To bad he wasn't ticked when we had the house and
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:14 PM
Oct 2015

60 senators even for a short time. The president doesn't even apologize for not even trying to get gun control passed during the best and easiest time to get it done. I am furious about that. But now the president with one year left with zero possible way to get something passed is mad?

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
5. Unfair.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:35 PM
Oct 2015

He was a little busy pulling the car out of the ditch: recovering from a recession, dialing down our wars and reforming the healthcare system. We barely controlled the House and the Senate, gun control is extremely divisive.

The Republicans will fight on guns tooth and nail always and forever because they are in love with the gun industry.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
36. Actually
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:22 PM
Oct 2015

At that time hew was dialing up the Afghan war by tripling the number of troops.

And it was a few years before we saw much of a recovery. He did save the bankers bonuses though.

Oh, and he didn't do much on health care. But he did nationalize health insurance regulation. And introduce the mandate.

But I actually think one would find that the democrats at the time had little stomach for gun legislation. Just like now they have little interest in revisiting health care reform any time soon.

ellisonz

(27,711 posts)
43. You are correct on Afghanistan.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:20 PM
Oct 2015

Still the goal was and still is withdrawal in time. Fuck the Taliban.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. Yeah, politics really is that easy.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:44 PM
Oct 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. How many hours do you suppose that era contained?
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:51 PM
Oct 2015

We should have made sure Congress stayed blue in 2010.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
16. Well... During that time we did get the ACA.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:15 PM
Oct 2015

That's pretty f'ing big. Like huge. Gigantic even.

He was not sitting on his hands.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
46. Oh well can't win em all.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:47 PM
Oct 2015

I got mostly positive views on my reply. Your reply has no activity but me. Sorry but I win.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
18. Obama has nothing to lose, and all to gain
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:25 PM
Oct 2015

And I think his balls might be big enough to take on the NRA. It's time to amend the amendment.

If he pulls this off, it will go down in history, along with all of his other accomplishments.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
6. I'm sure his daughters are on his mind, too.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:41 PM
Oct 2015

They will be going to college and these shootings are happening nearly every day at one grade level or another. I have several teachers in my immediate family and I worry about them each and every day. It's a trapped feeling for all.

The Republicans should be ashamed of themselves. They are pulling that trigger right along with the gunman.

tblue37

(65,273 posts)
7. To jump thhe shark means to devolve into absurdty and uselessness. Don't you mean the
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 07:44 PM
Oct 2015

OPPOSITE of that?

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
13. Agreed.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:11 PM
Oct 2015

Also, "Brava!" is what you say to a female performer, not a man (for whom "Bravo!" is the appropriate choice). I emailed the poster, but no response.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
22. Thanks for your pm - I have now responded
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:41 PM
Oct 2015

and thanks for the lessons. I live and learn, and I don't like to make mistakes. Usually I don't make the same ones twice

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
26. My pleasure.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:48 PM
Oct 2015

I'm impressed with anyone who's posting on DU when English is not his or her first language. Go, you!

Mira

(22,380 posts)
21. I was excited.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:39 PM
Oct 2015

I have since been told by pm that it was a poor description of what I (hopefully obviously) meant.
When I get very worked up the fact that English is my second language can rear its head, just like it did in this case.
Apologies.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
15. I have had it
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:15 PM
Oct 2015

fuck this noise about the second amendment and the bad interpretation of that by the SC

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
17. We've all had it!!!
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:21 PM
Oct 2015

I had it several shootings ago. Until someone with tremendously huge balls takes on the NRA, we will continue to look like idiots for doing NOTHING!!!! AGAIN!!!!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
19. When you "jump the shark" it basically means you've stayed too long at the fair and are out of ideas
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:35 PM
Oct 2015

I think "boiled over" might be an expression that is closer to the mark.

He was rightous after the school shooting, infuriated after the church shooting, and now he has boiled over. He's not having it.

Neither should anyone who calls themself a Democrat.

We need gun control. SERIOUS gun control. Anyone who can't hang with that needs to corrrect their POV.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
42. With all my apologies already in this thread,
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:20 PM
Oct 2015

an edit would be another way to water down the message with side issues that make me look like the foreigner I once was, and diminish the value of my saying that I was wide eyed and happy and hopeful about the vehemence of my President's address.
I think that part was clear.

So I'll just let it lie it where it was flung, and not make the mistakes again.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
44. Well, Mira, for whatever it's worth, I agree with your sentiment--we need to get
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:26 PM
Oct 2015

a handle on this gun bullshit. Enough is enough.

It's so freaky that the TV show Blackish had an episode on the issue of guns just last night--talk about seeing the future....

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
27. This is a big part of the issue
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:49 PM
Oct 2015

Their job is NOT to worry about their seat. It should be to support the American wants and needs of the people. So where has this gone so wrong? Money! Lots of Money!!! CPACS!!!! They are all bought and paid for.

I can't wait til Bernie gets in there.

flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
28. Bernie was just on Chris Hayes show
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:53 PM
Oct 2015

He was a little soft on this subject, in Vermont the attitude is pretty pro gun.

But he says there is a consensus among gun owners that could make things work -- however this is one thing a Bernie presidency will not prioritize, I think.

And I'm an ex Vermonter who knows and would be a Bernie supporter if he can win, but on guns I'm not thrilled with his history overall.

longship

(40,416 posts)
25. Pedant response.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 08:47 PM
Oct 2015

First, "jumping the shark" is a cultural reference to failure. Jumping the shark. And yes, it involves Henry Winkler as the Fonz.

Second, "Brava" is the Italian associated with a female performance. The male word is "Bravo".

Sorry, just a friendly correction.


Mira

(22,380 posts)
33. Appreciated. Other than that
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:08 PM
Oct 2015

I hope you were also pleased with the President's vigorous wading into the issue with new force and emotion with a barely restrained temper.
I'm glad he made clear grave objections and abject sadness at mass shootings are actually a political issue in the fabric of this country, and ought to be front and center all the time. Not just trotted out on sad days like today and then shelved til the next time.
That is what makes me hopeful - pulled it out for all to see his anger and frustration, and he told us it has become a priority to find help with solutions.

Sorry about my mistakes with the language. I was excited and chose a description that did not fit.
I must say though, that I am an avid theater attendee, and many many times have I stood and clapped to the audience yelling Brava to the orchestra, or to only male performers, such as soloists.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
35. Thanks - your understanding is appreciated. I remember that
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:21 PM
Oct 2015

I wanted to google "jump the shark" because I had this sneaky suspicion something was off with that phrase. Then the doorbell rang, and I forgot.

longship

(40,416 posts)
37. Those damned doorbells.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:29 PM
Oct 2015

They always get me, too. Usually right in the middle of a DU post. Either that or a fucking phone call. Either one utterly screws up my narrative.

My best to you, my good friend.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
39. ...
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:37 PM
Oct 2015
My family is nervous all over the place today.
My NC grandson moved into Brooklyn today, he just graduated from Arts school, and we are all jittery.

Response to Mira (Original post)

Mira

(22,380 posts)
40. I'm counting on it being next.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 09:43 PM
Oct 2015

I have a strong feeling that he has lost all patience, all reserve, and that in his plodding and single tracked way he has an issue he has now pulled into the front of his last year.
GOBAMA.
I have not been alone in calling him Obama-don't-care (any more)
I believe finding a way to do the public's will about mass murders and gun violence rather than that of the NRA has taken a foothold in the front pew today.

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