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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 07:55 PM Oct 2015

Rudy Giuliani: No point to gun-control laws since criminals break laws.

Giuliani on Fox News recently:


"People who rob stores, people who rob banks and people who are insane and want to go ahead and murder don’t follow the gun control laws. It’s the behavior of people, it’s not the guns.”


Giuliani as NYC mayoral candidate:

In 1993, he joined those calling for a national system of gun licensing, “with stringent but realistic criteria.”


Giuliani as NYC mayor:

In 1998, he proposed a law to require New York City gun owners to buy trigger locks.

And in 2000, he said New York would file a federal lawsuit seeking tens of millions of dollars in damages from gun companies as compensation for the injuries and deaths caused by their products. The Times headline: “Giuliani Joins the War on Handgun Manufacturers.”


http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/02/after-oregon-shooting-rudy-giuliani-bashes-obama-on-gun-control/?module=BlogPost-Title&version=Blog%20Main&action=Click&pgtype=Blogs&region=Body
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Rudy Giuliani: No point to gun-control laws since criminals break laws. (Original Post) Eric J in MN Oct 2015 OP
He's right of course Turbineguy Oct 2015 #1
Or remove the laws against murder and arson as murder and arson still happen!? Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #8
The weird thing right now is that these murders yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #14
No point for Rudy to talk anymore because nobody gives a shut what he has to say. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #2
OK, then; let's repeal the laws against drunk driving. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2015 #3
I guess that makes Rudy Ghouliani an anarchist. Who knew? TexasProgresive Oct 2015 #4
He did clean up New York City for sure yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #15
The inconsistency of their logic astounds me Yavin4 Oct 2015 #5
Yet it lives! Not only in Fox but through the entire media. Astounding. I am sick of the stupid. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #9
Who then needs laws of any kind? Koinos Oct 2015 #6
Sadly, if we'd listened to him back then, some of these tragedies might have been avoided. Might be Hoyt Oct 2015 #7
Yes, if we had "stringent" criteria for gun licenses Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #19
Mass shooters have been mentally ill, not criminals. rickford66 Oct 2015 #10
Ok why stop there LiberalElite Oct 2015 #11
No point in taking a shower tonight Rudy. lpbk2713 Oct 2015 #12
Rudy Giuliani: Dumbass. PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #13
Oh, good, just think of all the money we'll save on traffic signs ! eppur_se_muova Oct 2015 #16
He is despicable tk2kewl Oct 2015 #17
...um excuse me Rudy ?.........j olddots Oct 2015 #18

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. Or remove the laws against murder and arson as murder and arson still happen!?
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 08:40 PM
Oct 2015

The childishness of the logic is unbelievable....yet the zombie logic is equalized by the media with actual living logic....that is half the problem and the solution is to remove that problem.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
14. The weird thing right now is that these murders
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:11 PM
Oct 2015

are taking place in no gun zones. That to me pisses me off. These murderers are trying to make a mockery of a good and necessary law and they need to be stopped.

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
5. The inconsistency of their logic astounds me
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 08:07 PM
Oct 2015

He says this about guns, but when it comes to drugs, we have to continue this stupid drug war.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. Yet it lives! Not only in Fox but through the entire media. Astounding. I am sick of the stupid.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 08:42 PM
Oct 2015

I am tired of my intellect being daily assaulted.

The NRA assault on intelligence is creating a societal cesspool of illogical and stupid and evil.

"A gun is comparable to a hammer". There is NOTHING to compare if your frontal lobe neurons are more than 5 years old!

The insanity of it all is no longer funny when insanity is being used to justify policy.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
6. Who then needs laws of any kind?
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 08:10 PM
Oct 2015

Since criminals break laws, laws are useless.

If we had no laws, no one would be able to break laws.

We would have no lawbreakers.

Absurdity piled on absurdity.

Has Giuliani ever heard of "enforcement"?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. Sadly, if we'd listened to him back then, some of these tragedies might have been avoided. Might be
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 08:17 PM
Oct 2015

less gunz too.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
19. Yes, if we had "stringent" criteria for gun licenses
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:56 AM
Oct 2015

...as Giuliani advocated in 1993, we may have averted at least one of the mass shootings since then.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
16. Oh, good, just think of all the money we'll save on traffic signs !
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 10:39 PM
Oct 2015

Not just speed limits, but especially those pesky stop signs ! Those things are everywhere, and criminals just ignore them anyway !

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