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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:45 PM Oct 2015

"Renoir Sucks at Painting"

A new movement born of an Instagram account has one central complaint: Pierre-Auguste Renoir - the French impressionist – was a terrible artist, and his paintings should be removed from museums.Holding signs that said “ReNOir”, “Take ’em down! Renoir Sucks” and “God Hates Renoir”, members of the Renoir Sucks at Painting movement protested outside the Museum of Fine
Arts in Boston on Monday. The group, led by organizer Max Geller, demanded the museum remove Renoir paintings – of which there are many, including the famous Dance at Boufival, 1883 – from its walls.


The Renoir Sucks at Painting movement was inspired after Geller visited the Barnes Foundation in Philadelphia, which houses a large collection of Renoir paintings, or, as Geller called them, “empty calorie-laden steaming piles”.



The Instagram account has more than 2,400 followers, and has even received the wrath of Genevieve Renoir, who says she is the painter’s great-great-granddaughter. On one photo, Genevieve commented: “When your great-great-grandfather paints anything worth $78.1m dollars … then you can criticize. In the meantime, it is safe to say that the free market has spoken and Renoir did not suck at painting.”

Geller, who turned her comment into its own post on the account, said: “I think that is one of the most absurd and insane arguments for anything, the idea that we should let the free market dictate quality.” He replied to Genevieve on Instagram with a list of items that have “been unleashed upon us by the free market”, and, like Renoir, “decidedly suck”, including climate change, the prison industrial complex, slavery, settler colonialism, the destruction of sea otter habitats and TV commercials.




http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2015/oct/06/renoir-sucks-at-painting-protest-boston-max-geller

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"Renoir Sucks at Painting" (Original Post) octoberlib Oct 2015 OP
This, my friends, is genius... joeybee12 Oct 2015 #1
Teabaggers with lotsa free time? nt valerief Oct 2015 #2
Reminds me of Westboro Church...God Hates renoir...nt joeybee12 Oct 2015 #4
I wonder what they think of the films of Renoir's son, Jean. valerief Oct 2015 #6
The Rules of the Game is WONDERFUL! joeybee12 Oct 2015 #10
Ha! I haven't seen it in a long time. I should watch it again. nt valerief Oct 2015 #12
I was always fascinated by the fact that a great painters son was a great director CBGLuthier Oct 2015 #31
Meant to post this yesterday. Best I can tell he is not a teabagger underpants Oct 2015 #33
I thought the article was funny when I read it. octoberlib Oct 2015 #3
It does make you think they're just doing it as a lark... joeybee12 Oct 2015 #5
I assume it's some sort of performance art Bradical79 Oct 2015 #9
That mnakes more sense than actually hating such brilliance...nt joeybee12 Oct 2015 #11
Sounds old-hat: tRump has him beat by a mile. Next? Monet! Lo-o-o-oser. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #37
ISIS is recruiting Generic Other Oct 2015 #7
I saw Renoir's paintings at the Barnes Foundation katmondoo Oct 2015 #8
Renoir's never been one of my favorites, but who is Max Geller? closeupready Oct 2015 #13
What I've been able to find on him underpants Oct 2015 #34
Um, no. Some of his work is flawed (proportions are off in a few), but, well, see for yourself: tblue37 Oct 2015 #14
Those are beautiful. octoberlib Oct 2015 #17
Renoir = So much beauty in color and light effects: tblue37 Oct 2015 #19
Flowers: tblue37 Oct 2015 #18
in paintings 3 and 4... dhill926 Oct 2015 #21
At the MFA in Boston?! CTyankee Oct 2015 #15
I think this has got to be a stunt. octoberlib Oct 2015 #16
well, it disgusting if it is. Jeebus... CTyankee Oct 2015 #20
Geller is an agit prop anti Zionist who fashions himself a political organizer. I'm guessing he Monk06 Oct 2015 #24
And a very funny one. PassingFair Oct 2015 #42
Of all the stupid things to get worked up over! smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #22
I hope you didn't mean to direct that at me... CTyankee Oct 2015 #23
No, no!! Not at all! I mean the protesters! smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #43
Oh, good! I'm relieved. Thanks so much... CTyankee Oct 2015 #45
This is more interesting than I thought it would be; Geller is a troll, but the argument he's making el_bryanto Oct 2015 #25
Agree. Another point to be made is that Renoir uses too much color. randome Oct 2015 #26
"Renoir uses too much color" COLGATE4 Oct 2015 #30
+1000 for an excellent reference. CBGLuthier Oct 2015 #32
YES! brush Oct 2015 #35
Impressionism: A beautiful, sunny day after a 2 bottles of wine. YEA! Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #38
^^^ So noted. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #41
That innertube approach is getting dated, like bellbottoms... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #40
What makes a great painting? Deadshot Oct 2015 #27
Technique plus insight into the human condition BeyondGeography Oct 2015 #29
Zippity Dada. nt raouldukelives Oct 2015 #28
all art must show no influence of the painter and focus only on uplifying the peasants! MisterP Oct 2015 #36
"The unbearably handsome face of a Nazi youth..." Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #39
Max Geller is not making a good Impression on me Bucky Oct 2015 #44
 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
1. This, my friends, is genius...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:50 PM
Oct 2015

They're at the Louvre...incredible to see in person.



One has to wonder if these people are serious, and if they are, don't they have jobs?

valerief

(53,235 posts)
6. I wonder what they think of the films of Renoir's son, Jean.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 07:01 PM
Oct 2015

Grand Illusion, bah!
The Rules of the Game, phffft!
The River, puleaze!

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
31. I was always fascinated by the fact that a great painters son was a great director
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 10:22 AM
Oct 2015

Like a true straight line connection between the old arts and the new.

underpants

(182,626 posts)
33. Meant to post this yesterday. Best I can tell he is not a teabagger
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 10:34 AM
Oct 2015

A political activist with some connection to Norteastern U concentrated in universal health care. Can't find any relation to Pam Geller, at least I can't. I thought that I read that he was anti-Isreal but one of his complaints about Renoir was that he was anti-Semitic so I guess not.

This appears to be Max Geller's way of blowing off steam.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
3. I thought the article was funny when I read it.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:54 PM
Oct 2015

I can think of a lot of things to protest about but Renoir isn't one of them.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
5. It does make you think they're just doing it as a lark...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:56 PM
Oct 2015

Of all the things to get worked up about...

katmondoo

(6,454 posts)
8. I saw Renoir's paintings at the Barnes Foundation
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 07:02 PM
Oct 2015

If you studied his paintings you would be amazed at how he blended his colors especially women's skin tones. I paint but no way could I come close to his genius. The scale and composition were beautiful. The women in those days were plump so that was how he painted them. The whole exhibit was wonderful and I thank my son for taking me there.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
13. Renoir's never been one of my favorites, but who is Max Geller?
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 07:16 PM
Oct 2015

Pamela's husband or something?

And why does the Guardian think we should give a shit what he thinks?

underpants

(182,626 posts)
34. What I've been able to find on him
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 10:38 AM
Oct 2015

A political activist with some connection to Norteastern U concentrated in universal health care. Can't find any relation to Pam Geller, at least I can't. I thought that I read that he was anti-Isreal but one of his complaints about Renoir was that he was anti-Semitic so I guess not.

This appears to be Max Geller's way of blowing off steam.

dhill926

(16,314 posts)
21. in paintings 3 and 4...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 08:10 PM
Oct 2015

the bearded guy with the hat seems to be the same guy. Could this possibly be kind of self-referential? Anybody out there smarter than me know about this? Thanks in advance...

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
15. At the MFA in Boston?!
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 07:34 PM
Oct 2015

Holy shit!

That is one of the most wonderful art museums in the country!! I LOVE the MFA!

The MFA has fabulous exhibits and great lectures by art experts. I enjoy them when I go to Boston to see my daughter. We have a terrific time.

I would think that Boston is OUTRAGED by this. They LOVE their MFA...jeez...get me a xanax...sheesh...

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
24. Geller is an agit prop anti Zionist who fashions himself a political organizer. I'm guessing he
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 09:21 AM
Oct 2015

knows little and cares less about Expressionist painting except the dogmatic feminist critique of French painting which he appears to have swallowed whole, head to foot shoes and all.

He is just doing this as part of a second rate Situationist happening to draw attention to his anti Israel projects.

I don't think he cares about art at all.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. Of all the stupid things to get worked up over!
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 08:39 PM
Oct 2015

God, get a life people. Or at least go out and protest something that is actually worthwhile. Geeze!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
43. No, no!! Not at all! I mean the protesters!
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 04:58 PM
Oct 2015

Sorry if it came off that way. I just think they are idiots for protesting art that they don't like instead of something that really has a negative effect on people's lives.

So sorry if you thought that was directed at you. I will choose my words more carefully next time! I love your posts!

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
25. This is more interesting than I thought it would be; Geller is a troll, but the argument he's making
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 09:29 AM
Oct 2015

is one that resonates on some level. We live in an age of the democratization of opinion, which has been decried by people on both the left and the right. Basically anybody who can get access to the internet can express an opinion regardless of qualifications. And in many cases those opinions are taken seriously. With Twitter you don't even have to be particularly articulate - just pithy.

Who decides what opinions in a society are worth listening too?

Bryant

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
26. Agree. Another point to be made is that Renoir uses too much color.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 09:41 AM
Oct 2015

I disagree that his paintings are awful but I could see someone disliking them in the same way they dislike Thomas Kinkade's stuff.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
30. "Renoir uses too much color"
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 10:19 AM
Oct 2015

Reminds me of the line from Amadeus where the Austrian King tells Mozart that, while his music is fine, it "just has too many notes".

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
40. That innertube approach is getting dated, like bellbottoms...
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 02:10 PM
Oct 2015

Surprised this bathroom scrawler doesn't see that. Like Steve Marche said in Esquire, soon the best web sites (or whatever) will edit.

Too much crap, and old repetitive crap-syle at that.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
44. Max Geller is not making a good Impression on me
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 05:55 PM
Oct 2015

if he wants to point a list of better painters out to us, it would be more constructive. But I would want him to really think about who these better painters are, and not just name off a few impasto.

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