Florida mom vows to stop her children from learning about Ay-rabbic numerals and Shee-harrah law.

[trusty elf]

A Florida mom posted a rambling 15 minute video to her Facebook account complaining that her son’s high school world history class textbook spends an entire chapter on Muslims and advances in the Islamic world, including the “origin of Ay-rabic numerals.”

She went on to state that she will go as far as she needs to go to get the textbook pulled, saying, “My children aren’t going to learn this.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/watch-conservative-florida-mom-vows-to-stop-her-children-from-learning-about-islam-and-arabic-numerals/comments/

[leftofcool]

1. Two words, momma.......home school

[ladyVet]

2. Homeschooling only sets the kids up for failure and ridicule.

And hardly anybody uses Roman numerals anymore. Which reminds me, the Romans were heathens and pagans, so that's out anyway. What to do, what to do? Wampum? No, those people were heathens, too. Savages.

Oh, hell. Who needs numbers anyway?

[leftofcool]

10. We don't need no stinkin' numbers!

Or spellin' either.

[NCjack]

16. "Don't know much about history, don't know much about biology, etc." Wonderful

World Lyrics (by Sam Cook).

[leftofcool]

19. And sadly, that is how some parents see education.

[DetlefK]

20. Romans are heathens, pagans... or even worse: Catholics.

[woodsprite]

23. Long division in roman numerals has to suck! n/t

[BarackTheVote]

48. But Roman numerals are very important for

letting you know in what order to watch the Star Wars movies

[BarackTheVote]

46. I was homeschooled and

graduated from Columbia College Chicago, summa cum laude with a GPA of 3.975, after graduating with a 4.0 from junior college (my classmates hated me--I absolutely annihilated the curve in every class I took LOL). The caveat is that both of my parents were University of Illinois graduates, my father from the hard sciences, my mother from art and history, and neither of them were fundamentalist Christians.

That is to say, I believe homeschooling can work under very specific conditions. If you're doing it because you believe your child can benefit more from a one-on-one, personalized educational experience, and you yourself have the knowledge, resources, and open mind to effectively teach them, then fine; if you're doing it because you want to make sure your kids are indoctrinated into a wildly ignorant view of history and science, then you're doing it wrong, and I believe you're guilty of child abuse.

[Gormy Cuss]

55. Yeah, homeschoolinh can be done with educated, dedicated parents in charge

but when it's done to indoctrinate a child in a narrow world view IMHO it's child abuse.

[workinclasszero]

71. We are 'Merican

We dont need no stinkin araby numbers!

[malaise]

3. Florida Mom wants her kids to be as

ignorant as Florida mom.

[trusty elf]

4. A fambly that dumbs down together...

staze tuggeather!

[malaise]

5. Seriously

the stupid burns

[RKP5637]

27. Yep, proud of their ignorance and stupidity! n/t

[Xyzse]

31. Staze Teebagger?

[Hortensis]

40. Seriously, a lot of homeschoolers are protecting their kids from Satan.

And many parents of public school kids here in the South. Information is very dangerous because it can lead to a belief that not all knowledge comes from the Bible. Probably yet another reason why football is preeminent in our local high school. Playing may damage minds, but it doesn't open to them to dangerous influences.

An acquaintance who teaches college classes locally, history/current affairs, is often frustrated by seeing some students mentally turn him off when information he's teaching conflicts with what they already "know." They have been warned by parents and ministers to watch out for minions like him, so they recognize him as soon as he reveals himself. In his experience the turnoff is pretty much permanent, at least for the duration of the course.

(What are they risking their souls in college for? Passport to the middle class, of course. Money. Status.)

[Arugula Latte]

43. That's one reason the reverence for "faith" in this country sickens me.

It's pushed on us that it's desirable that people are willfully ignorant and embrace evidence-less mythologies. And nobody is ever supposed to question any of this supernatural nonsense lest they offend someone.

[Hortensis]

45. Yes. I feel we do need to somehow respect freedom of

religion, even at the expense of their children, but without having it affect mainstream education. That, of course, means getting "evidence-less mythologies" out of public education.

The problems with opposition to real, secular education that are a big reason, of course, for right-wing opposition to common core standards and standardized testing -- they already have problems doctoring tests so that comparisons don't shock people into demanding change.

[trusty elf]

53. I feel the same way.

[malaise]

57. Some are protecting themselves from child abuse arrests

including sexual abuse.

[Hortensis]

67. Horrible thought, but of course true in a certain percentage.

[yardwork]

68. Part of the problem is that the rewards of education are no longer obvious.

For earlier generations, a college degree meant a good job and middle class income or more. That was a strong incentive to rebel against mom and dad's teachings if they conflicted with getting an education.

But now.... I'm not sure that college students today feel the same confidence that their degree will result in opportunities.

[mainer]

6. So she wants them to learn binary numerals?

or just skip math altogether?

They'll definitely have to skip that A-rabic algebra stuff.

[-none]

9. Binary numbers using Roman numerals?

There is no zero with Roman numerals.
Now convert that to hexadecimal.

[ProfessorGAC]

18. Try Multiplying!

III times VIII is XXIV? Only if you convert to actual numerical values, you know, like arabic numerals.

[tanyev]

7. OK, but math is going to be really cumbersome using Roman numerals.

[Marrah_G]

8. LOL

[Cal33]

11. You're right. With Roman numerals you can't get further than addition, subtraction, multiplication

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and division. And it's cumbersome at that. Also, she'd have to take the Arabic numerals out of
her computer.

[jwirr]

34. And most likely out of her address and telephone number.

[MisterP]

52. pssh, you just chunk 'em up!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_abacus

[tanyev]

65. Nossir, that article says the Roman abacus is based on the Babylonian abacus.

And we all know that Babylonia is in that Eye-rack place. Nice try.

[MisterP]

66. and Ayrab numerals were introduced by Sylvester II and Fibonacci

PAYPIST WAYTCH-CRAFT!!!

[NightWatcher]

12. Please let your child break free from the trap of ignorance you have been stuck in.

Give him a chance at working in a world full of opportunity and not be relegated to the 2nd shift at Family Dollar as you have been...until you win the lotto.

[trusty elf]

13. It's sad, isn't it.

sigh

[onehandle]

14. Newsflash, Moron. Our alphabet's roots is traced back to the 'Ay-rabs' themselves.

Who developed the written language mainly to foment capitalism (drive trade, if those last two words are too fancy for her).

[Lizzie Poppet]

35. Moreover, those "Arabic" numerals are from India.

I pity that woman's children...

[Octafish]

15. A real Zero.

Think about it, ma'am.

[Victor_c3]

17. I never liked Muslim math

Good riddance al-gebra!!

[leftofcool]

21. I was never very good at it myself, probably because its..................Moooooslim

[Bettie]

22. She'll probably decide to home school him now

poor kid. At least he's in high school, so he's got the basics....like those "ayrab" numbers learned already.

[Solly Mack]

24. That was painful to watch.

I couldn't even laugh at her. My funny bone crawled off to the still dark corner of the room - where it convulsed in agony on the floor.

I may have to sleep this one off.

[darkangel218]

33. Lol your post is funny though!

[MineralMan]

25. Damned right. Schools should use Old Testament Hebrew numbers.

Of course, they'll have to do without the zero, but that number has no value, anyhow....

[Lizzie Poppet]

37. "that number has no value, anyhow"

[MineralMan]

42. I knew you would!

[treestar]

26. So idiotic

afraid her son is going to learn Muslims aren't necessarily so bad.

[underpants]

28. Ironically those Ay-rab numerals created the perfect description of her

0

[whatthehey]

29. My pedantic side cannot resist pointing out they originated in India

Al-Khwarizmi himself referred to them as Hindu numbers in his seminal works, and they, including the zero, were in use in India long before Arabs adopted and adapted them.

Funnily enough even today license plates in Saudi Arabia have to have both numbers and letters transliterated into Western norms

[MattSh]

30. Tired of Florida Man getting all the attention, it seems.

https://www.google.com/search?q=florida+man&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com&gws_rd=ssl

[Paladin]

32. ....thereby trashing their chances at Rhodes Scholar status. (nt)

[odd_duck]

36. When she....

pronounces 'Arab' as "Ay-Rab", it is a pejorative.

[olddots]

38. I have mismatched socks smarter than this "mother "

sometimes this shit back fires on parents and their kids crave knowledge .

[marmar]

39. I feel bad for her children.

But hopefully they'll get to college and get exposed to knowledge and information, and meet different kinds of people, and free their minds. This moron doesn't realize it but she's damaging them.

[RockaFowler]

41. So she doesn't want her kids to learn anything

Ah yes - welcome to Floriduh!!

[Archae]

44. This is the Onion, right?

It is satire, right? Er...isn't it?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

47. Reminds me of the Maryland dad who went beserk because the school made his daughter include Islam...

....in a social studies report about the world's major religions.

http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/2014/10/31/islam-taught-in-classroom/18224863/

[Iris]

73. Did these people not go to school themselves?

I went to school up until 7th grade in Maryland and we learned about world religions in 4th grade.

[Rex]

49. I always wonder about people that are scared of facts, events, certain words.

Nah kidding, I know they are about the dumbest people to ever exist on this planet!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

50. I smell congressional run. nt

[liberal N proud]

51. She needs to remove the font from their computers too

[KamaAina]

56. Okay, Florida Mom, what's LXV times VIII?

[matt819]

58. Ok, fine

If a train leaves Chicago at one in the afternoon (she probably dont have no truck for Latin, either) traveling at cx miles per hour and another train leaves Peoria at eleven thirty in the morning at LXXXV miles an hour, at what time will the trains pass each other.

Or, when your moron child gets a job paying VII dollars and LV cents an hour for XXIII hours per week, with XX per cent taken out for the gubmint, what will be left over for beer and bullets?

BTW, her telephone number would look something like this: VIII VI VII V III blank IX because without those Ay-Rabs there's no zero.

[Monk06]

59. Sorry she's too bone ignorant to watch. I quit when she pronounce sharia SHEE Rah. Surely

she must have heard this word pronounced properly since sharia is an particular obsession of the right wing.

She can't even read the English language at middle school level from a printed page. I can confidently say that she has no fear of ever learning Arabic., even if they tortured her.

[Orrex]

61. Well, the asteroid will destroy us on X/VII/MMXV anyway, so she should be fine.

[Retrograde]

63. If she wants 'Merican, how about good old Mayan notation?

She'll have to learn to deal with the concept of base 20 rather than base 10, but it's a least home-grown. Sorta.

[sakabatou]

64. I feel sorry for her children

[lindysalsagal]

69. Don't tell her about the super-bowl: Last year was XLIX.

They're using 50 instead of L this year. The attack on Romans!

[workinclasszero]

70. I'm ashamed to be an American

at times like this.

How can someone be so......ignorant. And better yet, lets get on the worldwide internet and show our massive ignorance to the whole friggen world!

I feel bad for her kids and I blame fox news, the republican party, hate radio and most likely the randian/prosperity/dominion church she goes to.

I bet she is a faithful republican voter. SMH

[Bucky]

72. What's the alternative, ROMAN numerals... a probable PAPIST PLOT?!

[COLGATE4]

74. Proof positive that you can't fix Stupid. nt

[yuiyoshida]

75. I had to see

it to believe it.

[Warpy]

76. She sounds shitfaced drunk in that video.

I have to hope someone local to her has dropped a dime to CPS.

[lapfog_1]

77. if she doesn't like them "Ay-rabic" numbers

she is really going to hate Al-gebra...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_algebra

[ms liberty]

78. This whole thread is a DU'zy! K&R. n/t