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If I remember it right I believe the Teamsters supported Reagan over Carter in 1980. And they also supported Reagan in 1984 as well despite what he did to the air traffic controllers. Perhaps I am wrong, but I was at DOL then and was puzzled by that support.
In fact a lot of unions never came to the aid air traffic controllers. There seemed to be this attitude by the trade unions and others that government employee unions were NOT one of them. Now we see the result of the lack of support.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)NOT supporting the air traffic controllers was the biggest mistake in union history. They left Reagan an open field to over run them.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)I remember when Carted deregulated trucking. I had been a traffic manager for a large liquor wholesale company in the early 1970's and rand 4 long haul trucks to back east picking up loads from our distilleries. So I was very familiar with trucking. What you said now explains the Teamsters support.
Carter was similar to Clinton in some ways in that he supported some GOP ideas that eventually screwed him. Yet Carter would still probably have won if the Reagan team had not committed treason. They made a secret deal with Iran to keep the hostages. And suspiciously Casey had a brain fart before he could testify before Congress.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)to further attack unions.
YabaDabaNoDinoNo
(460 posts)Proof all the non Union American built toyotas, Hondas, Kia's, Hyundais sitting in Americans driveways
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)YabaDabaNoDinoNo
(460 posts)Would drive a Union built car
Not much love for union workers here
CrispyQ
(36,446 posts)& that labor wants everything for nothing. I think most Americans don't consider themselves 'labor' & that's how the repubs got away with it. 'Labor' is the kid working at McD's. 'Labor' is the plummer who fixes your toilet. 'Labor' is not a mid-level accountant at a corporation. Except, that it is! But they've been convinced they are not labor & then vote against labor.
I was a the local grocery store a few years back at the time the union was negotiating with mgmt. I asked the young clerk how the union negotiations were going. "Oh, I would never join a union," she said with total disgust. I told her, "If it weren't for unions, you wouldn't have vacation time, health benefits, & safe working conditions. Read some history." I know I sounded like an old fart, but I couldn't help it.
raccoon
(31,110 posts)CrispyQ
(36,446 posts)I saw a bumper sticker a long time ago & wish I'd bought it:
The Labor Movement: The Folks
Who Brought You the Weekend
olddots
(10,237 posts)a bad point in the evolution of capitalism , a time of experimenting with selling out .Things have gotten bad enough so that unions are much needed again to reinstate a middle class .
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)poor folks could not get to the polls to vote against Rick Perry whom they supported. Tarrant County was the only major Texas city that did not have a huge election day turn out (which favored Dems) that year.
Quid pro quo is the most likely reason. Plus, the GOP can hold up the Teamsters as a symbol of union corruption in their efforts to paint all unions as corrupt in their never ending quest to kill unions in this country.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Those chickens came home to roost a bit sooner.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Karma's a bitch, I guess.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_Air_Traffic_Controllers_Organization_%281968%29
closeupready
(29,503 posts)In terms of how much I really should sympathize with them for what happened.
Wow. That's gotta be the most interesting thing I've read here on DU for quite some time. Thanks.
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Octafish
(55,745 posts)Proud to be called "Macomb Democrats" in metro Detroit. Most of them I've spoken with about it really regret it now.