Kasich on Social Security cuts: "You'll get over it."

[NaturalHigh]

Washington (CNN)—Ohio Gov. John Kasich said Friday that a New Hampshire audience member would "get over" cuts to Social Security payments as a result of his reform plan -- and the left is already pouncing on the comment.

-----------snip-----------

He asked audience members to raise their hands if they were far from receiving Social Security, asked them if they knew yet what their initial benefit would be and then asked them if they would be bothered if it were a little lower for the good of the country.

One person said it would be a problem.

"Well, you'd get over it, and you're going to have to get over it," Kasich joked.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/politics/john-kasich-get-over-it-social-security/index.html

[underpants]

1. Stuff happens. Things happen. Well ....anyway

Jeb
Trump
Lindsay

[Human101948]

59. Please let this asshole be the Republican nominee...

That alone will doom him to ignominy.

[rbrnmw]

110. I am afraid he could win

Most people won't see this side of him and think he's sweet as pie. You don't want him near the nomination.

[NaturalHigh]

114. Fortunately his poll numbers are in the toilet.

Trump is driving the clown car right now.

[SusanaMontana41]

118. We're 13 months from the election. Anything can happen between now and then.

People laughed at Reagan, too.

[NaturalHigh]

121. That's true.

[n2doc]

81. Seems to be the GOP slogan for this cycle

Really a Winner!

[usaf-vet]

116. The fix is simple except for the politics of the 1% and their toadies in Congress

..... Raise the income cap from it current $118,000 to make every dollar earned subject to 6.2% SS withholding. Currently Congress members making $176,000 only pay SS tax on the first $118,000. The remaining $58,000 is SS tax free. Don't punish the low end... tax the high end.

[6chars]

2. Certainly will be over it when we're dead.

Is that what he meant? Laughing all the way to the bank.

[ornotna]

3. DU rec

Gotta rec it so others will see it.


And no, I won't get over it.

[NaturalHigh]

4. Most people won't.

[hifiguy]

5. The party of sociopathy presents this asswipe

as a "sensible moderate." Nuff said.

[NaturalHigh]

6. I think he's considered "moderate" on some social issues.

He just wants us all to tighten our belts and eat cat food when we get old.

[sulphurdunn]

112. But it's for the good of the country.

Kind of your final act of patriotic sacrifice for the rich. I mean the country.

[Blus4u]

7. He tends to say..

..a lot of assholish things.

Peace

[appalachiablue]

42. Didn't Kasich say his best times were at Wall Street's Lehman Bros.? He was an investment

banker with Lehman in Columbus for about 8 years, (2001-2008) in between Congressman and governor. At Lehman, Kasich made hundreds of thousands of dollars in stock bonuses on top of his executive salary, enriching his and his wife's net worth in assets to $9-22 million. So much for the politician known for blue collar heritage.

>No John, people will not 'get over' cuts to vital Social Security benefits.

Kasich with Mitt Romney in 2012.



CNN, "John Kasich's Ties to Wall Street Could Haunt 2016 Bid", June 8, 2015.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/08/politics/john-kasich-2016-lehman-brothers-wall-street/index.html

[StarzGuy]

90. I doubt that I could add anything to what's already said...

I have an important issue that will affect me. That being, the cut to my SSDI check that will happen next year unless the congress does something about it.

I'm barely able to pay for my apartment rent now. If the 20% cut goes into effect next year, I am screwed. I will have to try to find another cheaper and less secure place to live.

I also don't make it through a month without making a visit to St. Mary's Food bank because the money I do get does not last. I also take a lot of medications. I regularly have to decide on buying food or medications. I often put off refilling my meds until I get my next deposit.

What gets me about these sh*t heads, is where do they get off telling me to just get over it. I'd like to kick Kasich in his ass all the way back to Ohio.

[emulatorloo]

58. I think that's required when you're an asshole.

[AzDar]

8. Kasich needs to 'get over' his lust for higher political office... Because it ain't happening.

[Justice]

9. For the good of the country -- I would have stood and said, Kasich, you and wall street first.

[MoonRiver]

10. Fuck you Kasich!

I know you will get over your party going into the trash can of history too.

[demwing]

11. Lets ask Kasich

if he would be bothered if his salary were a lowered for the good of the country.

Then we could laugh and tell him to get over it!

Fucking dickweed.

[icymist]

16. That wouldn't bother him as much as if you raised his tax rate.

Let's say 75-80% for a start?! Betcha he'll yell loud and long.

[NaturalHigh]

17. See post #12.

The first thing we should do is lift the cap on the Social Security tax. Then he would at least be paying SS tax on his entire salary, and yes, I imagine he would howl like an angry dog.

[JDPriestly]

12. Not necessary if we raise the cap, and we should raise the cap.

It is not right that if you pay payroll taxes on the first $113,000 or thereabouts that you earn and then can, at your discretion, choose to save money from everything you earn over that amount in a 401(K) or IRA or other instrument while those who earn maybe $40,000 a year pay their payroll taxes and cannot save more than that.

Payroll taxes should be imposed on every cent earned on anything in the country. The rate of the tax should be reduced so that the amount placed in Social Security covers the cost of the benefits paid out and puts a little in the Social Security trust fund each year.

For many, many if not most Americans, Social Security is the only retirement savings they have. That is especially true for Americans who were in their 50s and early 60s maybe even late 40s, lost their jobs due to the 2008 crash or corporate takeovers and bankruptcies, had to spend down their savings including their retirement savings and are now completely dependent or will be completely dependent on Social Security for their entire livelihood.

Remember, we all pay taxes. We all pay sales and property taxes. When you consider how little Social Security pays most recipients in a month, you have to think that just paying one's property taxes can take a month or two or more of the benefits from Social Security.

I think the average Social Security (and it is virtually the same as the median because the benefits are capped) is around $1,337 per month. That is just a bit more than minimum wage pays per month based on a 40-hour week. (Maybe $90 more.) (2080 hours per year divided by 12 x $7.25 per hour)

http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/quickfacts/stat_snapshot/

Before Republicans reduce Social Security benefits and refuse to raise the cap, I would ask them to try living on $1,337 per month. Their lifestyles will change drastically.

I think at this time members of Congress earn $174,000 per year (if not officers in the Congress). That's about $14,5000 per month -- more than ten times the amount the average Social Security recipient is paid after a lifetime of work.

Granted, members of Congress work hard and have to maintain two households or rent something in DC, but still, they should not be willing and should not consider reducing the income of the 1/3 of seniors who rely totally on Social Security for their livings.

We have to stop the Republicans if only in order to save Social Security.

And, by the way, I do not think that Hillary Clinton is as strong a supporter of Social Security as Bernie is. That is because of the longstanding Clinton relationship with Pete Peterson arch-enemy of Social Security and with Wall Street in general. Wall Street covets the money that Americans entrust in Social Security.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

60. If we raise the cap, the rich will "get over it".

I don't think removing the cap would make them no-longer-rich.

[NaturalHigh]

72. Exactly - in fact, it would barely be noticed.

[Bohunk68]

103. $1339/Mo? Wish I got that much.

How's about trying to live on $839/Mo. If it weren't for the fact that my partner died while we were building our new house, it would not be paid for by his insurance, and I would be out in the street. And, may still soon be. I am now 4 years behind and the county is telling me they are going to seize my property and sell it for a song to some realtor, just so they can get a mere $11,000. Have had 18.5 ac on the market and only one nibble months ago. A friend of mine the same age was talking with me the other day and he has had his place on a lake on the market for the last two years and not even a nibble. In order to sell, the prices have to be dropped way down to bargain basement pricing where the homeowner gets screwed out of their built-up equity.

[SusanaMontana41]

119. What's happening to you is unconscionable.

Are the walls closing in? Can you afford a doctor?

How about groceries? Maybe the occasional night out?

How about your support system?

I'm worried about you. You matter. Talk to me.

[Bohunk68]

134. Night outs are only with friends who pay for me.

Other than that, I am barely getting by, just like so many other seniors. When we hear that the "average" is, folks forget that 50% are below that average, so there are a lot of people out there falling behind. Tuesday, I will be calling the county offices for DSS and see about resolving the problem. Thank you very much for asking and caring.

[llmart]

108. Worked since I was 17.....

and my monthly benefit is $936 after they take out the requisite $104 for Medicare. Most women of my age didn't have access to high paying jobs even if we did have a degree. Pensions became a thing of the past - the rules changed in the '80's when corporations could file bankruptcy and not have to honor their pension obligations. I have a small pension from a publicly funded institution but that's only because I was a union member when I worked there.

The jerks in Ohio who elected this bozo are too stupid to even see how he has his hands in their pockets.

[Vinca]

13. Apparently Kasich doesn't know his base: old, white people.

Maybe he should hand out cans of cat food to the oldsters at his next rally.

[NaturalHigh]

14. Good point.

[dembotoz]

24. that is the thing, the old white people who vote for him never realize it is them that he will screw

i swear it is like jews for hitler

[MisterP]

38. yeah, they seem to think the checks are coming from some sort of lottery

[Midnight Writer]

93. As a retired senior, I am astounded by the folks on SS and Medicare who vote R

I live in a very conservative area, have been here over 60 years, and have known some of these folks since they were kids. I know some of them relied on food stamps and welfare and SSI in the past. And I know most of them would be up the creek today if not for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. But the damn fools still vote Republican every time.

To them, entitlements are something THEY are providing for lazy welfare junkies that live in "urban areas".

And they think conservatives are "looking out for them".

[Plucketeer]

69. Great campaign gesture

And he can point out that the protein content of the cat food is every bit as good as that from canned mackerel!

[central scrutinizer]

74. And refrigerator boxes

The GOP version of modular retirement housing

[NaturalHigh]

125. Don't forget newspapers.

They can use those to cover up at night when they're sleeping on the park bench.

[icymist]

15. I can't believe that Ohio keeps voting for these idiots!

There's a reason I moved away in '83.

[Auggie]

22. + 1,000,000

I moved away in '79. I'd rather do with a lower standard of living in California than ever move back. Ohio's laws and government and oppresive and fucked-up.

[Bohunk68]

104. Left on my birthday in October 1976.

Nevah, evah going back. Too damn many Republicans. I say that in the knowledge that some of my cousins are Ohio Tafts.

[NaturalHigh]

25. I only drove through there back in 1986.

I can't say that I ever wanted to go back.

[Springslips]

30. You moved because you are weak.

This is the problem with the nation. The people who are good are so, so weak. We are changing things here; hell he would not had bern elected had many stayed, or got out the vote, which is the real reason, or stayed to make the State dems stronger, another reason he was elected. Stop running, stop the narcissism.

[NaturalHigh]

33. I think you replied to the wrong post.

[Fuddnik]

47. Ever think of moving for better opportunities? Climate? A million other reasons.

[Auggie]

62. I was offered a job in San Francisco

Tough choice: Cleveland or The Bay Area?



Here's a Facebook video from the asshat republican congressman that represents my old district, Dave Joyce ("Going to vote to hold #PlannedParenthood accountable and get to the bottom of what happened in those disgusting videos&quot :

https://www.facebook.com/RepDaveJoyce/videos/vb.404318572981934/890483141032139/?type=2&theater

119 likes, and many comments in favor. Disgusting.

[awoke_in_2003]

84. Easy choice: Cleveland

Not many can afford the Bay Area.

[icymist]

70. Weak huh? You have no idea of what things were like back then.

The poverty. Watching the steel mills get torn down. The violence in the streets between biker gangs and organized crime families. All the crooked politicians; those that felt entitled to something in return for just doing their fu*king job! It was only getting worse so I left and I'm grateful for every moment now after getting out of that place. No. I would be narcissistic if I remained in that rat hole. Or worse, a victim of a society whose motto had become, "That's just the way it is and there's nothing you can do about it." Way to go, Ohio:

It's really too bad. They have some really good musicians from there.

[Liberal In Texas]

94. How ironic

That Rush uses this as his theme music.

[NaturalHigh]

106. I'm surprised they let him use it.

[True Blue American]

100. Kasich's Record

Kasich only won by 2% against Ted Strickland in the depth of the recession. Fools blamed Strickland.

Since Kasich took office he refused Fast Rail money that is badly needed. Then he tried to kill Public Unions. That exploded in his face with 1.3 million signatures to put it on the ballot. That won a big No vote.

He retreated to do his dirty work in private, cutting School Funds, shoveling funds into his friends Charter Schools.where we have a scandal a month exposed by Investigative Reporters. It is so bad the Republican Legislature passed a bill on strict over sight.

He did take the ACA money.

Now,he is selling the prisons to his friends. So just guess what he would do in the White House?

He built up a rainy day fund now that the economy is better. Schools have begged him to use some of that.

But he will soon be gone. As for living in Ohio. The cost of living is great. I love the change of Seasons, the lush green,plenty of rivers and aquifiers. I will stay here,thank you very much.

[whathehell]

18. "For the good of the country". Hey John, how ''bout you ask millionaires to pay a higher tax rate

for 'the good of the country'. They will definitely get over it and they can certainly afford it more than seniors on fixed

incomes.

[appalachiablue]

45. +5

[red dog 1]

120. + 1000

[ZM90]

19. ZM90 on Kasich never being president: "You'll get over it." n/t.

[NaturalHigh]

20. LOL...

"You'll have to get over it."

[Jack Rabbit]

21. Thank you for your interest in the open position, Governor

Please don't call us; we'll call you.

Please don't worry. You'll get over not being president.

[ruffburr]

23. Two words for Kasich-

Screw You !!!

[Enthusiast]

26. What would be for the good of the country and the world is if the USA

scaled back the scope of its military/intelligence foreign entanglements.

"Kasich joked." Think about that one.

What he considers funny and what I consider funny are two different things. The problem with the ideological right is they have started to believe their own propaganda.

Anyone that advocates cuts to entitlements is, in fact, an extremist. For all his posturing to the contrary, now you know Kasich for the extremist he is.

[chillfactor]

27. I get social security....

and I depend on social security to survive..and no ass wipe....i will NOT get over it....

[PatSeg]

28. How very republican

Take from the least and give to the wealthy. Whenever they talk about "cutting" anything, it is the poor, the sick, and the elderly - they have no power, so they'll "get over it".

[jalan48]

29. Straight talk from the Party of ME.

[NaturalHigh]

31. I imagine he's pissing himself realizing how inadvertently honest he was.

[jalan48]

36. Yes, they are becoming more bazen.

It's as if he was telling the senior citizen, "Sit down and shut up".

[wolfie001]

32. What a bassturd!

[Matariki]

34. I hope some old lady punches him in the snotbox

asshole.

[SmittynMo]

35. Striiiiiike 3. YOU'RE OUTTA HERE!!!!!

Na na na na, hey hey hey, goooooood bye.


I have no idea what 1 and 2 were, but it don't matter. This should end it for him.

[Angry Dragon]

37. another 1 percenter head from

[mnhtnbb]

39. I think I would have been inclined to stand up and tell Kasich

to get over his aspirations to be President and go back to fu*king Ohio, you a$$hole.

In fact, I think I'll go find his website and tell him just that.

[mnhtnbb]

43. hehe, I did just go to Kasich's website and here's the e-mail I sent:

I understand that Governor Kasich thinks that Social Security recipients should anticipate lower payments "for the good of the country" and that they'll get over it when their payments are lowered.

Here's what I think, Governor, and I am already drawing Social Security. You need to get over your aspirations to
be President and go back to Ohio and stay there. This country needs Bernie Sanders for President, not you.
So get over yourself, you a$$hole.

[NaturalHigh]

44. LOL...good stuff.

[True Blue American]

101. The sooner

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Kasich leaves Ohio,the better.

[gregcrawford]

40. Malicious skid mark n/t

[Dont call me Shirley]

41. No Fuckhead, We won't get over it!

[DisgustipatedinCA]

82. And remember, he's the "sane, good" Republican in the race.

And this has nothing to do with anything, but while I was never a bully in my school days, there's just something about Bobby Jindal that makes me want to push him against a wall and take his lunch money away. I resent him for making me feel like that.

[Capt.Rocky300]

46. Maybe he has a lot of stocks.....

in companies that make cat food.

[dmr]

48. How about a pay cut, Governor?

And, no pay increases or perks waiting in the wings to slip past us.

It's for the good for the country and the American people. You'll get over it. You'll have to, after all you are patriotic, aren't you?

[TBF]

49. Rec for visibility -

I think he's forgetting who votes. Does he really think people are going to go for this? We know that "good of the country" is just another way to say "the rich folks don't want to pay for this anymore".

[Oilwellian]

79. It's more like the rich...

don't want to pay back the $2.7 trillion surplus they stole from us.

[TBF]

80. Yes, that is more accurate

[SoapBox]

50. &@$£€*%**#!!!

Gawd I hate these fucking PUKES!

[ladjf]

51. "Let them eat cake" nt

[kairos12]

130. I think it's more like Let Them Eat Kibbles.

[NaturalHigh]

131. Well, maybe the generic Kibbles. The real stuff is too expensive.

[ladjf]

133. The meaning of "Let them eat cake".

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/let-them-eat-cake.html

[WI_DEM]

52. If he's a nominee for VP or President there is the sound bite.

[NaturalHigh]

61. Exactly!

He'll never get the presidential nomination, but he might get picked as the "moderate" to be VP.

[Skittles]

53. completely out of touch elitist asshole

he just DOES.NOT.GET.IT.

his greedy old pig party made sure jobs were pimped offshore, wages stagnated and pensions cut, and now we're told we have to GET OVER cuts to Social Security?

[dawnie51]

54. Finally!

I was wondering when our fine governor would show himself. He can make nice for a while, but long term, the asshole-ishness just pops out. And at the worst times too. Life the $115,000 income ban, Kasich! You know how to get this fixed.

[NaturalHigh]

75. I was blissfully unaware of this jerkoff until a few months ago.

[allan01]

55. no i wont get over it

would he like it if he got his salary cut . these idiots have been going after s.s since its founding and theyd have a rebelion on their hands .

[Unknown Beatle]

56. Why doesn't Kasich suggest

that a 10% cut in the military budget would do wonders for infrastructure. Or a 20% cut in their salary.

Just leave our SS and medicare/medicaid alone.

[NaturalHigh]

63. I think we could probably cut 10% from the military and never notice.

I'm sure at least that much is waste.

[sakabatou]

57. Republicans have no empathy.

[KamaAina]

64. KamaAina on Kasich's lousy poll numbers: "You'll get over it."

[99th_Monkey]

65. ...and Kasich is "the sane one"? What does that leave?

When Trever Noah pressed Rachael Maddow with the question "if someone held a gun
to your head, and forced you to say 'If you were a Republican, which GOP candidate
would you most support?" .. Rachael couldn't answer, kept trying to not say, laughing
her ass off, etc .. but finally blurted out "... OK .. Kasich" ..

I kind of thought the same, watching the first GOP debate. So this just goes to illustrate
just how bankrupt the GOP is, in terms of having any humanity or sense of doing what's
right for the "little people".

FUCK THEM ALL!!!

I seriously don't think they even want to win , not really, or they wouldn't act like this; which
is curiously related to this OP of mine, about how lame the DNC/Democratic Party is these
daze, and why that is.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251660366

[hobbit709]

66. I wonder if he'll get over a short ride in a tumbrel?

[bearssoapbox]

67. That's our governor!

I call him Kashits.

[NaturalHigh]

71. Kashits...I like that.

[blackspade]

68. And he is the 'sane' one....

[pansypoo53219]

73. Republicans used to just be stingy & fiscal. NOW they are just MEAN & GREEDY asshole

publicans.

[turbinetree]

76. Two words for this tin foil hat........................go home

Honk------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

[Punx]

77. More Wisdom

From the party of compassionate conservatism.

Someday people are going to wake up. Have to wonder how he'll get over the guillotine.

[Agnosticsherbet]

78. Everybody dies, so at that point they are over it.

This will help the elderly get over it sooner.

[d_legendary1]

83. Some people will get under it

since they will die from malnutrition, homelessness, or suicide. What have the poor done to piss off the right wingers other than being poor?

[NaturalHigh]

107. "What have the poor done to piss off the right wingers..."

Many of them truly believe that all poor people brought poverty on themselves and that their own wealth is a sign of their own righteousness.

[ZX86]

85. A multi-millionaire Republican

Jokes about cutting payments to social security recipients. So typical.

[YOHABLO]

86. "A little lower for the good of the country"???? WTF How about a little less military spending

FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY? What about getting rid of the cap on FICA taxes for the wealthy? HUH?

[daleanime]

87. "Good of the country..."?

since when does that mean less then 1% of us?

[NaturalHigh]

105. To people like Kasich, the 1% is the country.

[Paka]

88. I would not get over it, not at all.

I had to leave the country so I could actually live on my social security. Otherwise it was a choice between roof or food. I decided I wanted both. Good nutrition and quality rest are both important to me, so NO, I will absolutely not get over it.

[lastlib]

89. Hey, Johnny, does the number "47%" ring a bell to you?

You just had your Ronmey moment, dude. That little fumble is going to be in every anti-Kasich ad run from now to doomsday!

[SmittynMo]

91. This guy is like the lowest of the lowest

Yep, let's take more from the 99%.

How friggin low is this?

[TheKentuckian]

92. No, not never ever. Not no way now how you twisted motherfucker.

[Liberal In Texas]

95. I'll be getting over Kashch.

Put one hand on my SS benefits, I'll come after you.

[rpannier]

96. I'm sure he'd say the same thing to a bunch of bankers if their billions were cut

"Well, you'd get over it."

But that would require him to consider that as a plan

[Feeling the Bern]

97. where did the GOP find these worthless skid marks?

[NaturalHigh]

124. Unfortunately there are plenty to go around.

[Bernblu]

98. What a creep!

And he was supposed to be the reasonable Republican candidate.

[Lunabell]

99. I'll never understand their lack of compassion

Someone who woks hard all their life deserves better than to just "get over it".

[Turbineguy]

102. With a republican healthcare plan

you won't have so long to wait either.

[rbrnmw]

109. I wish I could get over you being Governor of Ohio

Raping our state and selling the rest.

[UCmeNdc]

111. Well he is telling you he plans to cut Social Security and Medicare upfront.

He is not hiding anything.

[NaturalHigh]

113. You're right.

He gets +2 points for honesty (undoubtedly a brief lapse of judgment) and -100 for being a callous, selfish dickhead.

[whathehell]

127. Good. That's what got people to vote against Romney/Ryan -- Keep talking, Kasich!

[NCjack]

115. This is a fine fix the Tea Party has put us in. Their politicians' number 1

objective is to fund tax cuts for the 1%. And, the GOP politicians are now bold enough to say in public that they intend to take SS money from us and to give it to the rich. Vote Democratic -- the ass you save may be your own.

[HockeyMom]

117. Hold Harmless Clause of Social Security

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/08/medicare-part-b-premiums-to-rise-52-for-7-million-enrollees.html

I would bet that the majority of Republican candidates would like to see this "hold harmless clause" be eliminated (so what if your Social Security goes down?), besides which they would want ALL "welfare" Social Security and Medicare programs to end totally.

Too poor and cannot save enough for your old age? Just beg on the streets, or die.

[NaturalHigh]

122. A guy I know is always talking about how Social Security is a scam.

He's sixty years old now. Who wants to bet he'll be glad to accept that monthly check in two years?

[red dog 1]

123. Kasich is another heartless Republican assclown who wants to be POTUS

[SummerSnow]

126. another re-thug hating the elderly..nothing new here

[riversedge]

128. and so many believe this vile man is a moderate

[NaturalHigh]

129. He tries to present himself that way on some social issues.

On economic issues, he's strictly a 1% guy.