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Yavin4

(35,406 posts)
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 07:54 PM Oct 2015

We are witnessing the implosion of the Republican party right before our eyes

No Speaker of the House, and no "reputable" candidate even wants the job. Donald Trump, Ben Carson, and Carly Fiorina, three novices who are woefully under-qualified to be president, are leading the entire field of nominees. Two "stars" of the Republican party, Rick Perry and Scott Walker dropped out of the running for the nomination months before Iowa. The former House Majority Whip is defeated in a primary election. Another former "star", Bob McDonell, is heading to prison.

No clear leader. No agenda that speaks to the American people. An oft-mocked, propaganda network posing as a news network is running the show. Losers of the popular vote in 3 of the last 4 presidential elections. Have to rely on gerrymandering, voter suppression, and low voter turnout in order to win elections. No women in leadership roles in the House. African Americans, Latinos, and Women pretty much hate them.

This is a party dying in front of our eyes.

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We are witnessing the implosion of the Republican party right before our eyes (Original Post) Yavin4 Oct 2015 OP
So does that mean after the Nov 2016 elections they won't still control the House and Senate? n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #1
Due to gerrymandering and low voter turnout... Yavin4 Oct 2015 #4
they have to defend about 24 seats and we have only 10. They're going roguevalley Oct 2015 #34
Oh how I wish. But we e heard this for years! yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #39
Hope springs eternal! nt Bigmack Oct 2015 #2
Ooohhh, I'm lovn every minute of it calikid Oct 2015 #3
I am also making a smoothie to watch the long overdue carnage. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #5
It will continue its zombie stagger as long as the plutocrats hifiguy Oct 2015 #6
That's the key: lastlib Oct 2015 #22
One can only hope. Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #7
congratulations. Yours is the 1000th post with that exact same subject line since 2004 Doctor_J Oct 2015 #8
Their good cop bad cop routine depends upon Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #18
That's it - LiberalElite Oct 2015 #38
Yeah, exactly. I wish they'd just die already, but they keep getting propped up Nay Oct 2015 #30
I don't believe they are done! I remember after 2008 the pundits said the GOP was dead kimbutgar Oct 2015 #9
Let's hope streakr Oct 2015 #10
The reasons why the Republican Party is not imploding are two-fold. stillwaiting Oct 2015 #11
You have a point. hifiguy Oct 2015 #12
Thanks for this. zentrum Oct 2015 #19
They've already started DJ13 Oct 2015 #29
I would add one more JNelson6563 Oct 2015 #57
no, we're not. KG Oct 2015 #13
Agreed Liberal_in_LA Oct 2015 #17
Don't get my hopes up. grntuscarora Oct 2015 #14
They lost the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 elections, not just 3 of the last 4. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #15
The Republican Party will never implode until . . . DrBulldog Oct 2015 #16
That's been said for years davidn3600 Oct 2015 #20
. Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #21
And yet every puke candidate is leading Hillary Reter Oct 2015 #23
I've heard this before and they always rebound. pnwmom Oct 2015 #24
I would like to think so, oldandhappy Oct 2015 #25
"Have to rely on gerrymandering, voter suppression, and low voter turnout in order to win elections" Takket Oct 2015 #26
So what? It works, and no one has the guts to call them on it or start Nay Oct 2015 #31
Too much celebrating, I'm afeared.,, tavernier Oct 2015 #27
Yes, Punx Oct 2015 #28
If the Republican party implouds, a new conservative party would Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author BigDemVoter Oct 2015 #33
Wishful thinking. Like the Big Dog said on Colbert redstateblues Oct 2015 #35
Democrats will start voting in the mid terms when New Democrats go the way of New Coke. nt stillwaiting Oct 2015 #45
Yeah, we heard the same thing in 2014 and 2012 and 2008 brentspeak Oct 2015 #36
That's nice. lpbk2713 Oct 2015 #37
MO could have been ground zero for this loyalsister Oct 2015 #40
Citizen's United comes home to roost. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2015 #42
Yep. Just not as bad yet. nt bemildred Oct 2015 #43
It is rather amusing but the Democratic Party is headed for a similar implosion between the YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #44
I can't wait until we can drown it in the bathtub. Raster Oct 2015 #46
the media will perform CPR on them spanone Oct 2015 #47
Yet they control two out of three branches of our government tabasco Oct 2015 #48
If only I had a dollar for every time I've head that. Autumn Oct 2015 #49
For our Democracy to work, we need to viable parties. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #50
Fox News killed the GOP Turbineguy Oct 2015 #51
your post reminded me of this song CatWoman Oct 2015 #52
It is like a soap opera in real time.... chillfactor Oct 2015 #53
Dead but still in control workinclasszero Oct 2015 #54
I wish I had a dollar for every post foretelling the end of the republican party. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2015 #55
The current hallucinogenic clusterfuck is something new under the sun, though. hifiguy Oct 2015 #56

Yavin4

(35,406 posts)
4. Due to gerrymandering and low voter turnout...
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 08:01 PM
Oct 2015

They can remain in "control", but that's due to state and local election bullshit more than a real mandate from the people. Yet, as we can see, when they get control they cannot govern. They cannot even get themselves organized.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
34. they have to defend about 24 seats and we have only 10. They're going
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:13 PM
Oct 2015

down. This is the end of them as a national party. They may keep things here and there, perhaps most of the south but as serious leadership, they're over.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
39. Oh how I wish. But we e heard this for years!
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 12:26 AM
Oct 2015

They aren't going anywhere. Boehner is still leader until one is replaced. 24/7 news cycle does the Charlie Brown on us with the football all the time.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
6. It will continue its zombie stagger as long as the plutocrats
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 08:12 PM
Oct 2015

and their propaganda networks prop it up, but relevancy to reality will be in short supply. Which is not to say that zombies can't do a lot of damage before they finally keel over.

lastlib

(23,118 posts)
22. That's the key:
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:33 PM
Oct 2015

How much damage will they do before the majority of Americans finally say, "fuck off, GOPpers, and take the horse your Gipper rode in on with you."? The carnage will be ugly, and the long-term consequences will be massive. I definitely will NOT miss the dinosaurs, but we'll be smelling their dying stench for decades.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
8. congratulations. Yours is the 1000th post with that exact same subject line since 2004
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 08:40 PM
Oct 2015

Since the dnc and their candidate want to make nice with the republicans, I don't see them imploding any time soon

Nay

(12,051 posts)
30. Yeah, exactly. I wish they'd just die already, but they keep getting propped up
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:08 PM
Oct 2015

by money and even by the Dem establishment. And the TV networks, who treat these loons like statesmen.

kimbutgar

(21,030 posts)
9. I don't believe they are done! I remember after 2008 the pundits said the GOP was dead
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 08:40 PM
Oct 2015

They came back stronger and in a new form as the tea party and we know the havoc they have done to this country.

Hate, evil and ignorance will always be with us which is a characteristic of the base of the Republican Party.

I'd love to cheer their demise but it's not going to happen especially when our MSM or their media enable them.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
11. The reasons why the Republican Party is not imploding are two-fold.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 09:01 PM
Oct 2015

The media will legitimize them and rehabilitate them whenever needed. WHENEVER needed.

The Democratic Party will prop them up instead of destroying them. MOST elected Democratic politicians fall all over themselves to strive towards being bipartisan with politicians that are cravenly corrupt and sociopathic. By not truly fighting the Republican Party (and they have TONS of ammunition), it allows for far too many Americans to conclude that both parties are corrupt. Hence low voter turnout. Hence Republican control of the House, Senate, and a large majority of state legislatures and governorships.

The Republican Party is absolutely pathetic (and has been for a very long time). And they control a large majority of federal and state government positions right now.

What does that say about our current Establishment Democratic politicians?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
12. You have a point.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 09:04 PM
Oct 2015

Without the media's ass-covering and legitimizing, the Repigs would have degenerated into something near a shooting war when the teatalitarians escaped their dungeon. But honest reporting in the M$M is as dead as the dodo.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
19. Thanks for this.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:18 PM
Oct 2015

You're absolutely right.

It's part of what Warren means when she says "the system is rigged". The establishment power elite is in deep cahoots, with different brand names so people will root for "teams" instead of policies.

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
29. They've already started
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:53 PM
Oct 2015

CNN ran a 10 minute segment this evening claiming Trump (with his large lead) is already planning an exit strategy.

The MSM has promoted him non stop for months, and now that the GOP itself is in trouble they would like nothing better than to push him aside for a party hack like Bush.

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
14. Don't get my hopes up.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 09:13 PM
Oct 2015

I've read such before, only to watch the Rethug party rise again like a zombie hoard.
We're stuck with them forever, but can fend them off with bright candidates, good ideas, hard work, and lots of garlic.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
15. They lost the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 elections, not just 3 of the last 4.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 09:40 PM
Oct 2015

As against that, the unpleasant reality is that there are more Republicans in the House than there have been in decades.

Overall, I'd say the GOP is in better shape than it was after the Goldwater debacle. Some people back then thought we were seeing the beginning of the end of the Republican Party.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
16. The Republican Party will never implode until . . .
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:09 PM
Oct 2015

. . . the millions of morons who continue to vote for them and thereby against their own best interests implode as well.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
20. That's been said for years
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:29 PM
Oct 2015

As dysfunctional as they are, they'll still stick together against a common enemy (Democrats).

Takket

(21,524 posts)
26. "Have to rely on gerrymandering, voter suppression, and low voter turnout in order to win elections"
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:45 PM
Oct 2015

yeah but.... unfortunately.... they are allowed to get away with it and it is proving successful. whether they poison our government by winning elections fair and square or cheating, the end result is the same: poisoning.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
31. So what? It works, and no one has the guts to call them on it or start
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:11 PM
Oct 2015

a lawsuit. Who's gonna stop them? The Democrats? The media? Don't make me laugh.

Punx

(446 posts)
28. Yes,
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:51 PM
Oct 2015

But due to gerrymandering, voter suppression (or outright election fraud), Ciitizen's United, not to mention a 24/7 propaganda network they will be around and have significant influence for at least a while longer.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
32. If the Republican party implouds, a new conservative party would
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:12 PM
Oct 2015

Appear to take its place.

It's happened before.

Response to Yavin4 (Original post)

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
35. Wishful thinking. Like the Big Dog said on Colbert
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:20 PM
Oct 2015

Until Democrats start voting in the mid terms nothing will change. I would add to that: Until we win back the State Houses and redraw the congressional districts the Rs will control the House.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
36. Yeah, we heard the same thing in 2014 and 2012 and 2008
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:28 PM
Oct 2015

And then look what happened.

No indication at all that the GOP won't still be the majority power in Congress yet again. They may be clowns, but they're clowns in charge. Wishful thinking won't change that.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
40. MO could have been ground zero for this
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 02:23 AM
Oct 2015

In fact, MO may have been ground zero for a lot of this crap beginning in 2003 when republicans gained majorities in both chambers. What followed was chaos not unlike what we have seen in congress.

When term limits kicked in in MO, we had a new class with tons of first time reps. They were a lot like the tea partiers in their naivete and devil may care attitudes. They didn't "waste time" trying to get along with Democrats because they weren't invested enough in the job to gather allies.

In 2005, they lpassed Medicaid cuts that actually eliminated funding for optional services, including ambulatory oxygen. It was overturned in the SC. They passed a photo ID bill in 2006 that was also overturned. They went nuts with poison pills, and passing unconstitutional laws to gather symbolic votes to hold against Dems. ie Banning all picketing at military funerals, etc. We were one of the first states to pass a Marriage bigotry amendment in 2004.

They were also absolutely hateful. The difference between the the term limited GA has been so depressing.

It was so much like the tea party the first couple of years and has since settled into true red state governing. The important difference is term limits and the fact that republican spending on elections is out of control and dominated by Rex Singquefield.

In the house we have 163 districts with around 30,000 people in each. Thus there are far enough suburban and rural districts to overpower the small number of districts in the more progressive areas in the cities. Unfortunatel they have made inroads to bringing pieces of cities into surrounding rural districts and it has been very effective.

So, inexperienced legislators took over and made every effort they could to pass the most radical legislation possible. They repealed all campaign limits and having Rex Singquefield has put Dems at a funding disadvantage similar to that of our congress people. Sadly, republicans have expanded their majority and it has gotten worse.

With term limits, we have an endless stream of self interested fools (whose agenda was to make it as difficult as possible) looking for a line on their resume for a golden parachute lobbyist position.

Back when it first started there was gossip that there were national people behind it. I wonder if that was happening in other states?

So, on one hand, I worry that it could get worse. On the other hand, the fact that congress is not term limited gives me hope that the electorate will be sick of it enough that you are correct.




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YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)
44. It is rather amusing but the Democratic Party is headed for a similar implosion between the
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:33 AM
Oct 2015

corporate party members and the liberal and progressive democrats.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
48. Yet they control two out of three branches of our government
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 11:31 AM
Oct 2015

When that changes, I will believe that they are waning.

It can't happen soon enough. They want to destroy this country.

Autumn

(44,958 posts)
49. If only I had a dollar for every time I've head that.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 11:33 AM
Oct 2015

I don't want them dead though, I would like a few to listen to once in a while when I want to laugh at stupid.

Turbineguy

(37,278 posts)
51. Fox News killed the GOP
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:38 PM
Oct 2015

They got their watchers to vote for incompetent idiots. The reality is that it takes smart people to run the government.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
54. Dead but still in control
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 04:15 PM
Oct 2015

If we put up a weak national presidential candidate the dead party wil have full control of all political power in this country including SCOTUS.

I'd hold off on celebrating the teahaddists demise just yet.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
56. The current hallucinogenic clusterfuck is something new under the sun, though.
Sat Oct 10, 2015, 04:38 PM
Oct 2015

I can't recall seeing the 'pukes assembling this many circular firing squads before.

They're not dead yet but they've got one foot in the grave, the other on a banana peel and they're holding on to a kite.

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