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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhile that "good" guy with a gun is assessing whether or not he needs to kill you - Let this sink in
http://www.guns.com/2014/12/01/editorial-20-rules-for-winning-gun-fights/
https://twitter.com/bimmerella/status/653432321765326848
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)A large group of gunowners who are claiming they need guns for self-defense are not thinking, "I hope it doesn't come down to it, but if I have to, I will use deadly force to defend myself and my family." Instead, they're buying a gun with the hope that they do get the chance to use it on another human.
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Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...I'd argue that it's irresponsible not to give that matter some serious, sober thought. Moreover, that consideration should be made before buying the weapon.
randome
(34,845 posts)If everyone were armed, we would have a hell of a lot more accidental shootings, not fewer.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]
Rex
(65,616 posts)Maybe only active and prior military should be allowed to handle firearms in public.
randome
(34,845 posts)Unless by accident.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]
uncle ray
(3,156 posts)forsaken mortal
(112 posts)Gotta watch out for those crazy pregnant ladies. Have to be a big man and be ready to defend the ice-cream with a few rounds of hollowpoints before they eat it all.
hunter
(38,309 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)except even camp guards hesitate, and they're turning Murka into a Rura Penthe-esque camp without walls, just people who've arrogated the role of guards and are given carte blanche by the statehouses
here's the hotlink to how they REALLY think http://www.guns.com/2011/07/19/could-you-shoot-your-own-son-in-self-defense/
everyone grab a copy before they firewall it!
hunter
(38,309 posts)... and nope, I'd rather be cut up and maybe die then shoot one of my own kids.
I've been in rough situations, but never once would me, hunter-with-a-gun have improved the outcome. I don't have any fantasies like that. Even when other people have had guns. Even when people were bleeding. I like to think in a war setting I'd be like my father-in-law. He was a Marine medic. His job was to patch people up, not shoot them. That's how they made him a medic. He said "no thanks" to guns.
My mom's dad went beyond that and was a Conscientious Objector during World War II. The U.S. government gave him a choice, prison or use his welding skills to build Liberty and Victory Ships. He built ships. (My mom's family tradition is draft dodging war hating pacifist. That's how they ended up in the U.S.A. "Wild West." The immigrants among them were dodging wars and religious persecution in Europe, and later the U.S. Civil War.)
I can be cold and extremely focused "just the facts" when I need to be. My wife and my sister are even better at that, as frequent and highly trained and licensed medical first responders, but I'm the sort who throws up in the bushes or nearest sink or trash can as soon as the immediate crisis is past, and then I have nightmares for years.
No thanks. I like to avoid trouble.
Gun fetishists are either clueless and inexperienced in such things, or psychopaths.
I've known and know quite a few combat veterans who have actually shot and killed people. They don't talk about their guns, mostly because they are happy to be home in a place where they don't need guns to feel safe. I've worked twice for bosses who lived through insane shit in Vietnam, and I'm friends with another. They don't talk about it. World War II vets tend to be the same.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)decided not to go after the shooter because the cops might think he was the good guy.