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bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:40 AM Oct 2015

In what universe would Trump's kid attend a free public college?

In dismissing Sanders' proposal for free state higher ed, Ms. Clinton said she didn't want the public to pay for Donald Trump's kids education. Well, I can easily support covering the 1%ers if the rest of us get in there too.

The true fallacy of that meme is the idea that a 1%er would want their kids to attend anything other that an elite private school. If they will pay for private K-12, they won't flinch at the cost of private higher ed.

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merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. True. Trump's kids, like Hugh Rodham's kids, are not likely to go to a public community college or
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:46 AM
Oct 2015

public university. However, if Trump were to pay his fair share of taxes, why shouldn't they be able to go, if they wanted to? They could have gone to public grade school, middle school and high school if they wanted to, right? And Bernie is saying that a college degree today is as necessary as a high school degree was fifty years ago.

If Trump were to pay his fair share of taxes, then he and his family should have their fair share of benefits from tax dollars, too.

Our problem now is, they are not paying their fair share of taxes AND they are using/taking more than their fair share of America's resources.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
3. Pretty lame IMO, but
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:48 AM
Oct 2015

her supporters are all over that talking point like white on rice, as evidenced by the many posts generated by the handful of her supporters that frequent this site. Seems to mean something to them.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
4. Kind of like "We're not Denmark"
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 09:54 AM
Oct 2015

How dare he compare us to Denmark? We're so much better, but it's too complicated to explain why we can't take care of our citizens as well as some small European country.

USA! USA! USA! The best, except when we're not.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
6. One in which they came out as a Bernie supporter, perhaps, and were disowned.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:07 AM
Oct 2015

Is this about means testing for free public college? I'm against it. It would be an insignificant fraction of those taking advantage of the opportunity, and a benefit to pluralism.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
7. Exactly, free is free, public is public
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:31 AM
Oct 2015

Only the for profit vultures would lose. You'd still have to do the work and put in the time, but no lifelong debt burden.

eta: If you have a different plan to make college more affordable, tell us what it is instead of a trotting out Trump or his kids.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
8. Up until the 1990s, tuition was free at all British universities
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 10:49 AM
Oct 2015

whether Cambridge or (hmm, which university do I want to insult as being at the other end? ....) Wye College (small, now closed down - I should be safe there ...). There was a means-tested maintenance grant for living expenses, but everyone took it as fair that the tuition costs were born by central and local government.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
9. Just like public vs private K-12, the wealthy don't send their kids to free schools.
Thu Oct 15, 2015, 11:14 AM
Oct 2015

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I wonder though... if college was free for the less fortunate, would there still be enough financial aid for these kids to attend private colleges? Could it actually create kind of an underclass of college graduates who would be seen as less qualified for higher paying careers?

Now, with enough financial aid and determination, poorer kids can and do attend elite private schools. Wonder if they would be shuffled off into a less prestigious system.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
10. Still think the privates would try to attract the premium students
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:51 PM
Oct 2015

They might even be inclined to provide more incentives to attract kids that could go to a top tier state school without having crushing debt.

Again, the ones with money wouldn't worry either way.

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