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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere’s what we’ve seen after 1 Democratic and 2 Republican debates:
from the comments at:
http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2015/10/master-debaters.html
Great find!
Doubledee
(137 posts)"Deeply committed democrats" have, in the recent past, had a President in the White House, a majority in the Houses and still nothing has moved forward on those issues you note they stand for. Aside from a very amusing and clever representation of the GOP , one I thoroughly enjoyed reading and chuckling over I remain unpersuaded that either major party is the solution to our myriad problems.
If I have misread history, or arrived at erroneous conclusion I would look forward to a civil response enumerating where I went wrong.
LiberalArkie
(15,708 posts)said the nation has moved to the right. I have believed the exact opposite. Our congress critters believed that the vocal minority and the people programming the voting machines spoke for the entire nation. Just remember that exit polling had been extremely accurate in all the races (local and national) until Gore vs Bush. It was at that point when for some reason they were incorrect, thus can not ever be used again.
Doubledee
(137 posts)I think it more a case of the GOP moving radically right and the Democrats rushing to fill the void left by that departure. An unfortunate strategy in my own opinion.
Qutzupalotl
(14,300 posts)When Nancy Pelosi became Speaker of the House, one of the first items on her agenda was to raise the minimum wage. Not by enough (to get working people off public assistance), and we need another increase, but that did start to address wealth inequality.
Obama appointed a green energy czar (Van Jones) to address climate change and create green jobs, but the Republicans promptly red-baited him until he withdrew. Congress was mainly focused on healthcare reform during that period. It did not help that Republicans deliberately slow-walked discussions to try to run out the clock on the Democratic majority and to minimize Democratic accomplishments.
There was only a narrow window between the time Norm Coleman conceded and Ted Kennedy died that the Democrats had a filibuster-proof majority. Outside of that window, the minority Republicans essentially had control of the Senate through an unprecedented number of filibusters.
Obama spoke out publicly in favor of gay marriage before the Supreme Court made it legal.
Its also worth noting that when W. Bush had Republican majorities in the House and Senate, he did nothing about one of his signature issues, abortion, because Rove needed it as a campaign issue to keep our country divided.
Doubledee
(137 posts)Just like real life there are always going to be isolated and rare exceptions to point to, I remain convinced that the overall history shows clearly that democrats are not the answer.
Qutzupalotl
(14,300 posts)All you have is opinion.
Doubledee
(137 posts)As do all who post here express opinion only. However closely held, however annotated, however researched we all of us express opinion. I think there is a grave danger in thinking oneself so all knowing as to believe ones own opinion unassailable, unnecessary to constant refreshing with all the facts and events as they occur.
Sorry you appear otherwise.
Qutzupalotl
(14,300 posts)and not clear on the difference between opinion and fact. I presented facts which you summarily dismissed. You then reverted to reasserting your original opinion which you appear unable to support.
Doubledee
(137 posts)Ive no inclination to engage you in sophomoric school yard caliber exchanges.
tblue37
(65,290 posts)And don't forget the DINO conservadems who vote with Republicans on so many issues.