Liberals WIN in Canada!

[ronnykmarshall]

http://globalnews.ca/news/2286444/global-news-projects-a-liberal-government/

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. That is great news! Congratulations to the Canadians! n/t

[ronnykmarshall]

7. One of my friends from my hometown

is now Canadian citizen in BC.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

2. Unfortunately it has come at the expense of the NDP

Much more than the Cons, despite the fact obviously Harper is gone......

[72DejaVu]

3. Right now

it looks like the Tories and NDP will lose about the same number of seats (c.60 each), but proportionately that hurts the NDP more.

Don't overlook a bit of a comeback for the BQ, from 2 seats to probably 9, mostly at NDP expense.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

8. Screw BQ!!!

Useless party.

[a la izquierda]

32. Sure, for those of us who aren't Quebecois leftists. Or interested in protecting Quebec's interests.

[joshcryer]

14. So they basically elected their "blue dogs" to get rid of Harper?

Sounds like a good deal. If only another country would employ that strategy. Oh wait, that's what the 50 state strategy is!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

15. To compare our two systems is silly

My thoughts on our Congress aside, I'd have rather seen Liberal and NDP finish 1st and second, rather than 1st and distant third, bordering on near irrelevance.

[joshcryer]

16. I think having a majority there actually holds more weight.

Since that's how you select your PM. We can and have had Presidents that don't have majorities in congress.

[fasttense]

41. They are NOT like our Blue Dog Democrats

Or 3rd way Democrats because they promise: To increase, significantly, taxes on the rich, To leglize recreational marijuana, To bring home the troops and withdraw from airstrikes, To take concrete action on the environment.

[wilsonbooks]

4. This could be a big blow against the TPP an the pipeline.

[Jim Lane]

5. Probably not. Trudeau has supported the pipeline and waffled on TPP. (n/t)

[BlueStateLib]

6. Justin Trudeau's centrist Liberal Party

Sep 10, 2015 - Justin Trudeau renews party’s opposition to Northern Gateway pipeline, pledges support for Keystone XL, but withholds judgment on a third, controversial line through Eastern Canada.

October 5, 2015 - WATERLOO, ON – The Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, Justin Trudeau, today issued the following statement on the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), established in principle:

“The Liberal Party of Canada strongly supports free trade, as this is how we open markets to Canadian goods and services, grow Canadian businesses, create good-paying jobs, and provide choice and lower prices to Canadian consumers.

“The Trans-Pacific Partnership stands to remove trade barriers, widely expand free trade for Canada, and increase opportunities for our middle class and those working hard to join it. Liberals will take a responsible approach to thoroughly examining the Trans-Pacific Partnership. The Harper Conservatives have failed to be transparent through the entirety of the negotiations – especially in regards to what Canada is conceding in order to be accepted into this partnership.

“If the Liberal Party of Canada earns the honour of forming a government after October 19th, we will hold a full and open public debate in Parliament to ensure Canadians are consulted on this historic trade agreement.”
https://www.liberal.ca/statement-by-liberal-party-of-canada-leader-justin-trudeau-on-the-trans-pacific-partnership/

[pampango]

20. Here is Trudeau's statement on the TPP from a couple of weeks ago.

“The Liberal Party of Canada strongly supports free trade, as this is how we open markets to Canadian goods and services, grow Canadian businesses, create good-paying jobs, and provide choice and lower prices to Canadian consumers.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership stands to remove trade barriers, widely expand free trade for Canada, and increase opportunities for our middle class and those working hard to join it. Liberals will take a responsible approach to thoroughly examining the Trans-Pacific Partnership. The Harper Conservatives have failed to be transparent through the entirety of the negotiations – especially in regards to what Canada is conceding in order to be accepted into this partnership.

“The government has an obligation to be open and honest about the negotiation process, and immediately share all the details of any agreement. Canadians deserve to know what impacts this agreement will have on different industries across our country. The federal government must keep its word and defend Canadian interests during the TPP’s ratification process – which includes defending supply management, our auto sector, and Canadian manufacturers across the country.

“If the Liberal Party of Canada earns the honour of forming a government after October 19th, we will hold a full and open public debate in Parliament to ensure Canadians are consulted on this historic trade agreement.”

https://www.liberal.ca/statement-by-liberal-party-of-canada-leader-justin-trudeau-on-the-trans-pacific-partnership/

[hifiguy]

37. This rhetoric is a few light years from

Obama's "sit down, shut up and eat your peas while I cut this deal with the oligarchy" approach:

“The government has an obligation to be open and honest about the negotiation process, and immediately share all the details of any agreement. Canadians deserve to know what impacts this agreement will have on different industries across our country. The federal government must keep its word and defend Canadian interests during the TPP’s ratification process – which includes defending supply management, our auto sector, and Canadian manufacturers across the country.

“If the Liberal Party of Canada earns the honour of forming a government after October 19th, we will hold a full and open public debate in Parliament to ensure Canadians are consulted on this historic trade agreement.” (emphasis added)

I hope Trudeau is as good as his word.

[pampango]

38. I think "light years" would be opposition to TPP which was the New Democrats position.

Promising a "full and open public debate in Parliament" is not the same as opposing the TPP. Since the Liberal Party will have a majority in the Parliament, if they want to defeat it they can.

[CanSocDem]

43. In our experience...

...when it comes to being "consulted" on trade deals, it means 'This is what we're going to do. If you don't like it write a letter to the editor of one of our newspapers. They'd love to hear your opinion.'

We had some brilliant spokespersons railing against NAFTA, pointing out the intrusion of American corporations into our established social order. That message created a historical coalition of Canadian citizens: The tree huggers, the bible thumpers, organized labour, seniors, liberals of all persuasions. Even the Liberal gov't. at the time, after publicly voicing opposition, quickly signed on after they were elected.

All I can say is that Trudeau has his father's charisma and his mother's 'good intentions'. Hopefully that will be enough to face down the raging power of the marketplace.

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[Overseas]

42. Insisting that the details of the agreement be shared openly with the Canadian people

will be equivalent to opposing it because the secrecy is one of its key features.

I hope he will stick to his principles on the government having an obligation to share all the details with the people.

[ronnykmarshall]

9. Love watching this coverage.

[lovemydog]

10. Congratulations Canada!

[DesertRat]

11. Good riddance, Harper!

[pablo_marmol]

12. Outstanding! I have a lot of Canadian friends.

Guess I'll be busy the next few days sending out congratulatory e-mails!

[Kenjie]

13. Congratulations Canadians!

[Donald Ian Rankin]

17. And unlike Australian "Liberals", in Canada the Liberals really are liberal. N.T.

[LeftishBrit]

18. Good news!

It's not the most left-wing of the parties, but much better than what they'd had.

[mmonk]

19. Yes they did ronny

Refreshing.

[ronnykmarshall]

45. Look at this picture ...

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Justin and his mother.

Isn't that beautiful?

I wish his dad could have seen this day.

[niyad]

21. it cracked me up when they were talking about the grueling pace of their SEVENTY-EIGHT day

campaign. would that ours would be as brief.

[OnlinePoker]

23. It was a good thing it was 78 days

When Harper called the election, the Liberals were in a distant 3rd. All the Conservatives did was bash Trudeau, saying he's not ready to be PM. By extending it from the normal 36-40 days, it gave people an opportunity to actually look at what was being said and judge Trudeau on how he spoke and acted during the campaign. I think this was the key to his majority win. Unfortunately, it also gave people the opportunity to judge the NDP message as well and become dissuaded by party leader Thomas Mulcair, a man who, though he believes in his message, came across as a bitter man with little charisma. It really cost the party. My one hope with the new government is the Liberals enact election reform and bring in a proportional system rather than first-past-the-post like we have now.

[KamaAina]

25. Why should they?

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The present system seems to have worked out quite well for them.

[OnlinePoker]

33. Because it's one of their party platforms.

By making a system of proportional representation, it will more clearly follow the will of all Canadians, not just certain regions (Ontario and Quebec, for instance) that can swing an election to one party. One of the great things with proportional rep is a party like the Greens which only got one seat in parliament this election would actually hold 10 if they went by the vote counts across the country. It would be very rare that a party could get a majority which means draconian rule like we've endured under Harper would be much more unlikely as minority governments have to form a consensus across party lines to get things done.

[dsc]

34. because it could keep conservatives out of power forever

and make them much more likely to either win out right or share power with another left of center party.

[LiberalArkie]

24. If we had 78 day election cycles our government would be entirely different.

For one there would be more parties as it would be cheaper to run for office.

[knightmaar]

26. Our spending limits are much lower.

Consequently, the television and radio ads are much, much shittier.

Imagine the guy on PBS who asks for pledges doing political ads like that for 78 days straight ...

[LanternWaste]

28. I'd love a short campaign season.

I'd love a short campaign season. As it stands, an American election more than a year out has already become nothing more than editorials and commentaries outdoing each other to say the same thing in as many different ways as possible.

[niyad]

40. I would love a MUCH shorter one, as well. and you are quite correct about what the current

US election cycle is sounding like.

[hedgehog]

22. K&R

[lark]

27. Whoohoo! The red tide is turning blue.

[ronnykmarshall]

44. and ironic

In Canada the Liberals color is red and Con are blue.

[Liberal_in_LA]

29. Dennis prager haz a sad over this

[Warpy]

30. A lot of people switched from NDP to Liberal

probably because they thought that was the best way to get rid of Harper, who is pretty universally hated outside Alberta. Whether they were right that a slightly mushy left of center government is any better than a right of center government headed by a repulsive figure remains to be determined. For now, giving the conservatives a solid boot to the arse has them jubilant--outside Alberta.

What really needs to be noted is that 66% of the vote went to the left of center parties.

[hifiguy]

36. Yep. The cons have less

than 30% of the seats. That is a brutal beat-down.

[a la izquierda]

31. Canadian Liberals are not like

American Liberals. So, yes, it's not Harper...but this is not some sort of leftist, revolutionary victory.

[hifiguy]

35. And not just a win.

A landslide.

[Puglover]

39. I am THRILLED for Canada!

I would LOVE to hear some of our Canadian DU'ers weigh in!