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kpete

(71,954 posts)
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:13 AM Oct 2015

Tweety Praises Trump For Going After Bush for 9/11 - Dems ‘Never Had the Stones’

Matthews Praises Trump for Going After Bush on 9/11: Dems ‘Never Had the Stones’
by Josh Feldman | 8:44 pm, October 19th, 2015



Chris Matthews opened tonight’s Hardball by practically applauding Donald Trump for going after George W. Bush over 9/11, something he said Democrats “never had the stones” to do.

Matthews said Trump finally argued what everyone has been yearning to say for years: Bush “didn’t keep us safe”and 9/11 is a pretty huge reason why. He claimed for years the Bushes and their allies said it just wasn’t proper to question whether the administration didn’t do its due diligence in keeping the nation safe leading up to 9/11.

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He continued, “The Democrats never had the stones to go out and challenge George W… because they probably felt that would be un-nice. Trump isn’t un-nice, he’s willing to be tough.”


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http://www.mediaite.com/tv/matthews-praises-trump-for-going-after-bush-on-911-dems-never-had-the-stones/
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Tweety Praises Trump For Going After Bush for 9/11 - Dems ‘Never Had the Stones’ (Original Post) kpete Oct 2015 OP
Sometimes Tweety shows signs of intelligent life. leveymg Oct 2015 #1
Why didn't he raise it to any of the Democrats on his program? malaise Oct 2015 #11
If you consider jumping on the badwagon intelligent, sure. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2015 #41
Sad commentary on the left redstateblues Oct 2015 #2
ABSOLUTELY TRUE. Octafish Oct 2015 #3
Uh Chris, do YOU maybe know someone in the TV "news" business underpants Oct 2015 #4
Is this an allusion to Phil Donahue? Sanity Claws Oct 2015 #12
No, it was pointed at Tweety underpants Oct 2015 #15
The trickle up the leg was a tell. Octafish Oct 2015 #16
yes, while also helping cheerlead us into the war. certainot Oct 2015 #25
It's one thing to do it in 2015 treestar Oct 2015 #5
Cheerleader kpete Oct 2015 #9
It's enough to make one sick. SoapBox Oct 2015 #23
^^This^^ geardaddy Oct 2015 #28
Vomit. I remember it all. yardwork Oct 2015 #47
Pass the barf bag, hifiguy Oct 2015 #54
yes, Chris was salvating over Bush codpiece Skittles Oct 2015 #51
Chris is right, but no one in the media had the "stones" to do it either. nt City Lights Oct 2015 #6
Bingo! whathehell Oct 2015 #18
My very first reaction when I saw the OP title. bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #21
Absolutely Correct! d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #39
Chris is right, except for one minor quibble gratuitous Oct 2015 #50
During his 2000 campaign, Bush2 called for less screening of Arab men in airports AngryAmish Oct 2015 #7
This needs to be seen by millions. Stuart G Oct 2015 #8
I watched the whole Iraq debacle unfold real time. I often wondered if dems were complicit or leftupnorth Oct 2015 #10
Thanks Thespian2 Oct 2015 #31
The Detroit Lions of politics. leftupnorth Oct 2015 #32
Tweety didn't either until he could sense a change in wind direction. marmar Oct 2015 #13
Yep. ronnie624 Oct 2015 #34
Trump's motive is not getting at the truth Zambero Oct 2015 #14
He could care less about the "truth". SoapBox Oct 2015 #24
All he needs to do is look in the mirror to see chicken shit journalist. olegramps Oct 2015 #17
I may like Matthews again!! eom Duval Oct 2015 #19
"it glimmers with this man, our president, that kind of sunny nobility." GreatCaesarsGhost Oct 2015 #20
Bill Maher and Chris Matthews Tear Into Jeb: "How Can He Get Away with Saying W Kept Us Safe?!" napkinz Oct 2015 #22
I believe I could spend five minutes and find some...likely Grayson rufus dog Oct 2015 #26
I'm sorry, tweety, did I miss the parts where YOU called the bush cabal to task any time since niyad Oct 2015 #27
Tweety was too busy wanking off over Dubya's flight suit, after that carrier landing. Paladin Oct 2015 #29
that pic always makes me ill, on so many levels. niyad Oct 2015 #30
* ronnie624 Oct 2015 #35
I hear that flight suit is prominently displayed at Dubya's museum in Dallas.... Paladin Oct 2015 #36
they could not pay me to set foot in that place. niyad Oct 2015 #37
Here are some real gems deutsey Oct 2015 #44
Even worse than I recalled---especially that last one. Paladin Oct 2015 #45
Chris Matthews is a Pathetic Hypocrite Stainless Oct 2015 #33
So is Hillary Geronimoe Oct 2015 #38
Tweety never had the stones either librechik Oct 2015 #40
My thoughts too! B Calm Oct 2015 #52
I clearly remember Jon Stewart and Michael Moore going after Bush about 9/11. Deadshot Oct 2015 #42
Says the guy who swooned over Bush's aircraft carrier landing nt geek tragedy Oct 2015 #43
I think I'm going to jump off a bridge. I agree with both Tweety and the Donald. Vinca Oct 2015 #46
All you need to remember about the Democrats' courage is... Efilroft Sul Oct 2015 #48
thanks for posting. nt Stuart G Oct 2015 #49
Would it be impolite to point out hifiguy Oct 2015 #53
Dems never had the Stones, but the Stones had the Repugs ... "Sweet Neo Con" napkinz Oct 2015 #55

malaise

(268,595 posts)
11. Why didn't he raise it to any of the Democrats on his program?
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:42 AM
Oct 2015

Why didn't he challenge Bushco on this subject until recently. We've discussed this several times on DU.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
41. If you consider jumping on the badwagon intelligent, sure.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:34 PM
Oct 2015

Back in 2001, it was difficult to tell precisely where Bush's ass ended and Chris Hardball's lips began. Today, he slams Democrats for not having the stones to do what he didn't have the stones to do.

Seriously. Fuck Chris Matthews.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:30 AM
Oct 2015

Well, some on DU were willing to buck up. Bartcop, Smirking Chimp and a few others, too. Too few, though, when it came to the Democratic leadership; and that's where Tweety hits home.



PS: Paul Wellstone DID oppose these traitors.

underpants

(182,562 posts)
4. Uh Chris, do YOU maybe know someone in the TV "news" business
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:31 AM
Oct 2015

who could've maybe sort of brought this point up somewhere in the last 14 years? Anyone? Anything ringing a bell for ya there Chris?

underpants

(182,562 posts)
15. No, it was pointed at Tweety
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:04 AM
Oct 2015

Not only did he not bring it up (career protection) he gushingly praised W every chance he got.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
16. The trickle up the leg was a tell.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:09 AM
Oct 2015

But, now, the BFEE brand is not what it was. Change is in the air. Someone less obviously PNAC-y...

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
25. yes, while also helping cheerlead us into the war.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:18 AM
Oct 2015

all prominent critics of the iraq attack, bush, and the aftermath were attacked by the rove machine and it was spectacularly effective intimidating msm and its tweeties. got dan rather fired too, and i'd like to see the movie with redford about rather and mapes- limbaugh has been criticizing it defensively.

he and 1000 radio stations rove used to attack rather and all the other critics were the most important part of the attack machine and talk radio is largely why we still waste so much time on benghazi and still deny global warming- not talk radio's little brother fox.

one of these days the left will wake up and stop ignoring the right's best weapon and we'll be able to move forward again.

guys like him might have second thoughts, like now apparently, but the fascists would be a lot less intimidating if americans stopped letting them blast the country with that talk radio PSYOPS all day.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. It's one thing to do it in 2015
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:34 AM
Oct 2015

And another in 2002.

Did Tweety, who claims to be a Democrat, say anything like this back in the days after 911? No, he was tingling over Bush, or something. So he is one to talk.

kpete

(71,954 posts)
9. Cheerleader
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:37 AM
Oct 2015

Chief among the cheerleaders was MSNBC's Chris Matthews. On the May 1, 2003, edition of Hardball, Matthews was joined in his effusive praise of Bush by right-wing pundit Ann Coulter and "Democrat" Pat Caddell. Former U.S. Rep. Robert K. Dornan (R-CA) also appeared on the program.:

MATTHEWS: The president there -- look at this guy! We're watching him. He looks like he flew the plane. He only flew it as a passenger, but he's flown --

CADDELL: He looks like a fighter pilot.

MATTHEWS: He looks for real. What is it about the commander in chief role, the hat that he does wear, that makes him -- I mean, he seems like -- he didn't fight in a war, but he looks like he does.

CADDELL: Yes. It's a -- I don't know. You know, it's an internal thing. I don't know if you can put it into words. [...] You can see it with him and the troops, the ease with which he talks to them. I was amazed by that, frankly, because as I said, I was originally appalled, particularly when I heard he was going in an F-18. But -- on there -- but the -- but you know, that was --

MATTHEWS: Look at this guy!

CADDELL: -- was hard not to be moved by their reaction to him and his reaction to them and --

MATTHEWS: You know, Ann --

CADDELL: -- you know, they -- it's a quality. It's an innate quality. It's a real quality.

MATTHEWS: I know. I think you're right.


http://mediamatters.org/research/2006/04/27/mission-accomplished-a-look-back-at-the-medias/135513

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
23. It's enough to make one sick.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:12 AM
Oct 2015

I can't stand Matthews...he's all over the map...it gives me whiplash.

Skittles

(153,103 posts)
51. yes, Chris was salvating over Bush codpiece
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 08:48 PM
Oct 2015

but Obama told us all we needed to LOOK FORWARD which was a bunch of BULLSHIT

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
39. Absolutely Correct!
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:14 PM
Oct 2015

If anything they were blaming Bill Clinton for not killing Osama Bin Laden, which why 9/11 happened. And don't even get me started on the whole "casket blackout" thing...

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
50. Chris is right, except for one minor quibble
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 04:46 PM
Oct 2015

Any Democrat who did indeed have the stones to challenge the official version of events didn't get to be on Chris' program for some reason. Or if they did get on, there was a panel of at least three as counterbalance, as well as the baying spittle of the host to contend with and try to talk over.

It's just a total mystery why nobody ever brought this up before T Rump started yammering.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
7. During his 2000 campaign, Bush2 called for less screening of Arab men in airports
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:35 AM
Oct 2015

How did that work out?

Stuart G

(38,403 posts)
8. This needs to be seen by millions.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:36 AM
Oct 2015

Last edited Tue Oct 20, 2015, 03:26 PM - Edit history (1)

And just as important, many others in the media need to the same thing..

leftupnorth

(886 posts)
10. I watched the whole Iraq debacle unfold real time. I often wondered if dems were complicit or
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:39 AM
Oct 2015

Just cowards. Then I wondered which was worse.

Still haven't comemto a conclusion on that...

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
31. Thanks
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:39 AM
Oct 2015

I had a similar reaction...complicit or cowards...


These days, Democrats seem to work very diligently...to lose...

Zambero

(8,961 posts)
14. Trump's motive is not getting at the truth
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:00 AM
Oct 2015

It has more to do with capitalizing on very palpable Bush Fatigue, and thereby destroying the credibility of Jeb "My brother kept us safe" Bush. Getting him out of the way once and for all as was done with Walker and Perry, and then moving on to the next target.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
24. He could care less about the "truth".
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:14 AM
Oct 2015

It's all about him and advancing himself.

And America falls for it.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
17. All he needs to do is look in the mirror to see chicken shit journalist.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:34 AM
Oct 2015

The Fourth Estate has totally failed the citizens. They allow FOX to spread outright lies without one word of challenge just as they did during the run up to the Iraq war. In this regard Obama also failed us. He refused to investigate an evil administration that cost nearly 5,000 American service people the lives and left tens of thousand devastating injuries that will ultimately cost trillions of dollars. The loss of Iraq civilian lives is staggering. The media still refuses to challenge Cheney and call him out as a damn lying bastard as he goes for station to station spreading his propaganda.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
26. I believe I could spend five minutes and find some...likely Grayson
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:20 AM
Oct 2015

But I ain't your Monkey Boy Tweet.

Fuck him and his kind.

He provided cover for the bullshit stories, and if true, had Donahue tossed.

Again FUCK OFF Tweety

niyad

(112,974 posts)
27. I'm sorry, tweety, did I miss the parts where YOU called the bush cabal to task any time since
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:21 AM
Oct 2015

sept 11 2001? I don't recall ever hearing about you doing so here on du, for example. DID hear an awful lot about that funny feeling in your leg, though.

Paladin

(28,241 posts)
29. Tweety was too busy wanking off over Dubya's flight suit, after that carrier landing.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:28 AM
Oct 2015

"Mission Accomplished" my ass.

Paladin

(28,241 posts)
36. I hear that flight suit is prominently displayed at Dubya's museum in Dallas....
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:03 PM
Oct 2015

....sacred codpiece and all. That's what I hear from acquaintances, you understand---I've never visited that museum, nor will I ever.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
44. Here are some real gems
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:43 PM
Oct 2015
http://mediamatters.org/research/2006/04/27/mission-accomplished-a-look-back-at-the-medias/135513

MATTHEWS: What do you make of the actual visual that people will see on TV and probably, as you know, as well as I, will remember a lot longer than words spoken tonight? And that's the president looking very much like a jet, you know, a high-flying jet star. A guy who is a jet pilot. Has been in the past when he was younger, obviously. What does that image mean to the American people, a guy who can actually get into a supersonic plane and actually fly in an unpressurized cabin like an actual jet pilot?

[...]

MATTHEWS: Do you think this role, and I want to talk politically [...], the president deserves everything he's doing tonight in terms of his leadership. He won the war. He was an effective commander. Everybody recognizes that, I believe, except a few critics. Do you think he is defining the office of the presidency, at least for this time, as basically that of commander in chief? That [...] if you're going to run against him, you'd better be ready to take [that] away from him.

MATTHEWS: We're proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who's physical, who's not a complicated guy like [former President Bill] Clinton or even like [former Democratic presidential candidates Michael] Dukakis or [Walter] Mondale, all those guys, [George] McGovern. They want a guy who's president. Women like a guy who's president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits. We don't want an indoor prime minister type, or the Danes or the Dutch or the Italians, or a [Russian Federation President Vladimir] Putin. Can you imagine Putin getting elected here? We want a guy as president.


Paladin

(28,241 posts)
45. Even worse than I recalled---especially that last one.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 02:41 PM
Oct 2015

And Chris Matthews thinks he has standing to lecture Democrats about a lack of "stones" when it comes to Dubya? Fuck that.

Stainless

(718 posts)
33. Chris Matthews is a Pathetic Hypocrite
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:53 AM
Oct 2015

He was a cheerleader for Bush during the entire fiasco of his presidency.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
38. So is Hillary
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:06 PM
Oct 2015

Yet some how she is the front runner, inevitable candidate. Something is very wrong.

Deadshot

(384 posts)
42. I clearly remember Jon Stewart and Michael Moore going after Bush about 9/11.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 01:36 PM
Oct 2015

But Matthews is right, not a single Democrat did.

Efilroft Sul

(3,578 posts)
48. All you need to remember about the Democrats' courage is...
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 03:10 PM
Oct 2015

...that when it came time for a joint session of Congress to certify the 2000 presidential election results on January 6, 2001, not one damn Senate Democrat stood with the Congressional Black Caucus. Had just one Senator done so, it would've forced Congress to adjourn, and each house would have had to overcome the CBC's objection by simple majority votes.

Only the CBC had courage then, but most people didn't know it and still don't know it.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
53. Would it be impolite to point out
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 08:55 PM
Oct 2015

that Tweety spent years publicly fellating Cheney 'n' the Chimp and talking about the thrill running down his leg?

No?

Then consider it pointed out.

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