Comic Books/Manga /Anime

[yuiyoshida]

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	All Comic books are for kids
	0 (0%)
	Adults who read comic books are childish
	1 (5%)
	Its okay for Adults to read Comic books, Manga, and watch Anime, its great!
	3 (15%)
	Manga unlike Comic books do have adult themes and are entertaining
	0 (0%)
	Sorry I only Read the Adult Manga, considered Hentai (porn)
	0 (0%)
	I am an Adult and Love American Comic Books only
	1 (5%)
	I am an Adult and love Comic Books, Manga and Anime
	10 (50%)
	Anime, Comic Books, and Manga is Trash and even kids should not see it.
	0 (0%)
	I want to draw (or do draw) Comics and or Manga (professionally)
	2 (10%)
	other (please state)
	3 (15%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[edhopper]

1. The comic book was invented in America

that and Jazz are are only indigenous art forms.
Yet it is the only place it is considered "just for kid".

[reddread]

3. proper props

Im a comic art lover, and my interests dont extend into contemporary productions so much as original 1st 2nd and 3rd gen creators.
Nothing thrills me as much as a bit of Joe Shusters work, nothing contains the raw power and utter brilliance of a Kirby page.
Carl Burgos is quite interesting, Bill Everett brilliant, Gene Colan, Johnny Craig, Frank Brunner, Starlin, Steranko, Wally Wood, Reed Crandall, almost anything executed with skill, flair and creativity has so much merit.
It isnt the same vital field anymore.
those lauded today are really a faint shadow of those whose time has past.
Love the artform dearly.
couldnt read a comic if my life depended on it, but I could absorb the beauty of a nice page forever.

[edhopper]

9. maybe in mainstream super heroes

But there are many creators doing interesting and exceptional work today.

[reddread]

11. I wouldnt know.

These days it has more to do with the writing and less to do with graphic innovations.
as far as I can tell.

[edhopper]

23. That's

mostly true.

[hifiguy]

16. Steranko was so far ahead of his time

back in his Nick Fury days it took the industry a decade or more to catch up with him. A true genius in his field.

Back in the day I would immediately grab anything Neal Adams, Paul Gulacy, Jim Starlin or Barry Smith drew. And there was never better art on Daredevil than Everett's inks over Colan's pencils. Ever. Frank who?

And yes, at his long peak - which lasted 15+ years, Kirby was truly King. Jack had imagination enough for a half-dozen artists. Gil Kane's work always popped right off the page, too, though he didn't have Kirby's universe-spanning imagination.

I do have to put in a word for my faovorite artist of the 70s-80s generation, though. George Perez was as good and as consistent as anyone there has ever been. Subtle and dynamic, as great with an action scene as a private moment, George was and is something else.

[reddread]

27. I am a real Gulacy buff

seems to have a narrow range of women's faces he draws, but I love his work.
I had a Colan Everett Cap page that was pretty special, but that Falcon took wing and another settled
in its place.

[hifiguy]

32. For me Gulacy's work was

Some perfect, otherworldly synthesis of the most compelling aspects of Will Eisner and Neal Adams. He and Doug Moench did some of the best "Bond" stories in any medium during their "Master of Kung Fu" run.

[GOLGO 13]

46. Steranko's Shield covers were so groovy.

Steranko's covers were like, Age of Aquarius wacked out. He must of dropped a ton of acid back then. He was on point back then.

[GOLGO 13]

40. Surely you did not forget the blues, yes?

Which then begat rock N roll.

[edhopper]

42. you have a point.

But in truth, comics are a true, unique art form, as where jazz and blues are musical genres.

Either way all are under-appreciated in our own country.

[WinkyDink]

2. D.C. Silver is my thang.

[yuiyoshida]

4. I am a huge fan of

DC, Marvel, Dark Horse, Top Cow, I wish I had the extra money, I would spend an entire day in a Comic Book shop here in the City, or go to Japantown and buy manga, and or anime to watch. I used to, but it got too expensive.

[GOLGO 13]

41. Piratebay?

Just throwing it out there.

[yuiyoshida]

78. I have heard of it..I think

There are so many places on the internet now where you can watch anime for free, including entire series. I haven't watched anime at all lately as I have "graduated" to watching Jdorama, (Japanese drama) and some Korean Dramas. Its amazing to me, that in Japan, most movies and tv shows were based on manga, and anime. One of my favorites was this!

[hifiguy]

5. Loved comics and cartoons all my life

and still do. Grew up with Bugs Bunny, Popeye, Rocky & Bullwinkle and all kinds of comics before settling on superhero books in my early teens in 1971. Was more of a Marvel fan until my early 20s, when I trended more to DC, though I was a maniacal X-Men fan until the early-mid 1990s

In fact I finally saw Princess Mononoke last night. Kurosawa - whose films I adore - is the only possible point of comparison for Miyazawa. One of the most sheerly beautiful films of ANY kind I have ever seen. Did he retire because he knew nothing he could ever do would top that masterpiece, (a word I do NOT use lightly here)?

Not as big into Manga, but was a huge fan of Lupin III, and, when I was in law school, Urusei Yatsura, Mai the Psychic Girl (which I loved) and Ranma 1/2. To this day I still read comics, but I am down to the My Little Pony comics, which are generally as smart, sweet and snarky as the cartoons are, and the occasional graphic novel.

[yuiyoshida]

6. fantastic

[Throd]

7. I don't find anything appealing about the entire genre at all.

Like Bob Dylan's appeal, I will just never get it.

[yuiyoshida]

12. please do poll!

if you think its all trash.

[Throd]

15. Some of it is just straight up trash...

...but that can be said for just about any art form.

I just find the whole thing boring for the most part. The stories tend to be variations of the same theme, the actual animation is lazy, and the editing gives me a headache.

I responded "other" to the poll.

[yuiyoshida]

29. Thanks :)

[Nuclear Unicorn]

56. Valid observation, fairly stated. I'm not an avid fan myself but Lover Boy has gotten me to look

forward to most new comic book movies and Agents of SHIELD. Some comics do seem like trash but there is some high mythology in there.

One character I like is Harley Quinn. She started as a supporting role for the Joker in the Batman animated series. She was Joker's psychiatrist at the asylum but he twisted her mind and made her codependent. She was just a prop upon which his cruelty and disregard could be demonstrated. But fans took an immediate liking to her and she got more appearances until she became a staple. She even has a prominent role in the videogames. Since then she has split away from the Joker and is part of the Suicide Squad sent to fight him. When they confront each other Joker faults her for not being willing to descend far enough into madness but the subtext is she is no longer codependent, having become her own person up to and including being a hero.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

8. I loved the Jim Terry Manga of the 80's

Wish I could get my hands on some of the great metal toys they made back then.

And I am a huge fan of Marvel Avengers movies.

[yuiyoshida]

10. For some strange reason that reminds me of SAMURAI JACK

[MowCowWhoHow III]

13. Other

[yuiyoshida]

14. ah...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega-City_One

[Codeine]

17. GAZE INTO THE FIST OF DREDD! nt

[yuiyoshida]

84. I used to love to read Judge Dread...

Wasn't too happy with Stallone playing the part, when the movie came out. The plot was pretty crappy too, come to think of it. The comics were far superior to any of the movies.

[MurrayDelph]

18. Many of my oldest friends

have made a good living working in this industry.

[edhopper]

34. That's very cool.

[NaturalHigh]

19. Other: read whatever you enjoy.

Reading is one of the best things you can do to keep your brain active and more content. I don't know much about manga or anime, but if you enjoy them, have fun. As for comic books, I still enjoy a little Batman from time to time.

[Codeine]

20. I really don't like most manga and anime.

There are some fantastic exceptions, like right now I'm enjoying Parasyte and I loved Macross when I was in my late teens, but mostly it just seems really corny to me.

But I do love me some American comics. I just picked up a stack of mid-50s DC a couple days ago just because someone was selling cheap and I'm a DC fanboy.

I also really like Euro comics, like Asterix.

[yuiyoshida]

25. The thing about anime from Japan is the

incredible amount of creativity that comes from this. Stuff you would never imagine..and other things that were mediocre and imaginable. One story, and I forget the title at the moment, had the story of an on line game, where one of the people had died but came back to become a character in an on line game. His entire soul, memory intact became a part of the game, and he was happy to be there, though his friends were shocked. Great story...loved it and the music.

[Warpy]

21. Censorship sucks. Kid or adult, read what you love to read.

As for kids and hentai, whether it's that or Hustler, kids need to be told that if most of that stuff happens in real life, police will be called and someone will go to jail.

[yuiyoshida]

82. Japan in the last few years has made

an effort to ban kiddie porn, and now even anime and manga has been affected. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out, for those who are used to the bizarre in Japan. I think of course its a good thing, and rightly so.

[Half-Century Man]

22. Anime to manga ga daisuki desu yo.

10+ hours a week.

[yuiyoshida]

24. honto ni!

Kakkoii ne!

[johnp3907]

26. Other.

[yuiyoshida]

28. ah sou!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimba_the_White_Lion

Arabic – الليث الأبيض
Bulgarian – Кимба, бялото лъвче – lit. Kimba, the White Lion Cub
Catalan – Kimba, el Lleó Blanc – lit. Kimba, the White Lion
Croatian – Kimba bijeli lavić – lit. Kimba the White Lion Cub
Chinese – 森林大帝 – Sēnlín Dàdì – lit. Jungle Emperor
Dutch – Kimba, De Witte Leeuw – lit. Kimba, the White Lion
Portuguese – Kimba, o Leão Branco – lit. Kimba, the White Lion
Finnish language – Viidakon valtias – lit. The Ruler of the Jungle
French – Le Roi Léo – lit. The King Lion
German – Kimba der weiße Löwe – lit. Kimba, the White Lion
Hebrew – קימבה האריה הלבן – lit. Kimba the White Lion
Hungarian – Kimba, a fehér oroszlán – lit. Kimba, the White Lion
Indonesian – Kimba Singa Putih – lit. Kimba the White Lion
Italian – Kimba, il Leone Bianco – lit. Kimba, the White Lion
Korean – 밀림의 왕자 레오 – lit. Jungle Prince Leo
Norwegian – Kimba, den Hvite Løve – lit. Kimba, the White Lion
Persian – کیمبا، شیر سفید – lit. Kimba, the White Lion
Polish – Kimba Biały Lew – lit. Kimba, the White Lion
Romanian – Kimba, leul alb – lit. Kimba, the White Lion
Russian – Император джунглей – Imperator Dzhunglyeĭ – lit. Emperor of the Jungle
Serbian – Лео, бели лав/Leo, beli lav – lit. Leo, the White Lion
Slovene – Kimba beli levček – lit. Kimba the White Lion Cub
Spanish – El Emperador de la Selva – lit. The Emperor of the Jungle
Spanish(Latin America) – Kimba, el León Blanco – lit. Kimba, the White Lion

[johnp3907]

36. I love it!

Kimba was a big part of my youth. I still watch the DVDs.

[Omaha Steve]

30. Golden age Marvel and DC for me

Spiderman, Fantastic Four, & Batman when I was in grade school were my favorites!

K&R!

OS

[yuiyoshida]

33. Is it me or did SPIDERMAN

Just reveal his secret identity bragging to that crook?, and what is the NEW AMAZING! the writer ran out of space!

I had the honor of meeting STEVE LEIALOHA who drew spidergirl! He is an amazing talent!

[Omaha Steve]

37. Steve does good work

Amazing Fantasy #15 was the last issue. After that it became Amazing Spider Man.

I'll go with the crook is in shock and won't remember his identity.

A friend of ours wrote several Batman and Wonder Woman stories: http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Alan_Brennert/Writer

http://www.alanbrennert.com/

We will be meeting Alan again in the near future. Below he posed with Marta in 2002.

[reddread]

38. Leialoha is really something

Dude can spot an (obscure to me) inker's work so quickly.
Once I showed him some original stats from Fantastic Four #1 and he declared George Klein the inker, a question that rarely had a correct answer over the decades. Another time he spotted Steve Mitchell over Gil Kane in maybe one seconds glance.
I was incredibly fortunate to pick up what I think is the very best of Cannon strips and he assured me it was 85-90% Wood, rather than
something finished by Adkins, Reese or whoever else assisted at the time. Those differences being fairly obvious to me as well, Wally Wood had amazing skills as an artist.

On a similar note, we were very lucky to have Trina Robbins and Spain Rodriguez over on the 4th of July years back when they were teaching a summer program at the nearby college. I would think we have one of the larger Trina collections around, and she is really something. Spain was relatively unfamiliar to me, although I did have a Daredevil piece he did which Marvel published, and is one of the very few if not the only mainstream heroes he has bothered to draw. Spain's importance staggers and shames me that I couldnt make more of the occasion due to my own ignorance. He certainly was a Johnny Craig fan, and I enjoyed so much showing them our collection.
RIP Spain, your work continues to blow me away!

[hifiguy]

65. Steve was himself a GREAT inker.

George Klein inked FF #1? Holy schnikes I thought I knew just about everything about Silver Age comics but I never knew that! George worked mostly at DC inking Curt Swan's 1960s Superman work across various titles.

The cool things one learns on DU!

A dear friend of mine is VP of sales at IDW and a collector of original comic rt. Over the years he has manafed to lay his hands on several original pages of Dan DeCarlo's work, primarily from Betty & Veronica. Gads, Dan's work was so clean and lovely. NEVER a line misplaced on the original pencils.

Gilbert Rodriguez once told me that he and Jaime used to hang out at Dan and Josie's house all the time when they were teenagers. They were aspiring artists and this living legend DeCarlo, whose work they both loved, was in the next SoCal suburb over. They'd go and watch him draw and pick up art tips from him. He also said Dan had literally hundreds of pages of pinup/Playboy pages of B&V that he had drawn for fun. (Dan did tons of girlie and other cartoons for an Army paper during his WWII stretch in the service). He used to pass them out to artist visitors.

[longship]

31. Then there's P. Craig Russell's Der Ring des Nibelungen.

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With heroine Brünnhilde,


(Note: his editor misspells her name Brunhilde.)

And of course, there's Arthur Rackham's incredible rendering of Brünnhilde riding her horse Grane onto her lover Siegfried's funeral pyre at the climax of Götterdämmerung. And yup, she does not have much clothes on.



An absolutely wonderful illustration, way before Marvel and the rest of them.
BTW, Rackham died in 1939. He was a great illustrator.

Arthur Rackham

And of course, Alice as well.


Plus, the death of dragon Fafnir, from Siegfried, by Siegfried.


My favorite illustrator.

[Codeine]

87. I think P. Craig Russel also did

an adaptation of Moorcock's Stormbringer.

[reddread]

93. He worked with Michael T Gilbert on some Elric books

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probably other things as well.
I had a fairly negative reaction to two pages I received, probably because it was on thin stock or something.
Nice pages actually, with cool scenes straight from the book.





I have a strong fondness for Moorcock and collected what I could
including some Brunner prelims from Heavy Metal and a cover prelim from the Behold the Man story in a Marvel mag.
I have the cover painting from one of the earlier Winds of Limbo/Fireclown editions and a pretty cool 1st page from Chaykins Swords of Heaven graphic. And a page by Bob Gould from Starreach.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

35. Loved silver age Marvel and a HUUUUge fan of American animated cartoons & comic strips

Looking forward the next season of Venture Brothers, which brings so much of it all together.

[Orrex]

39. The aesthetic of anime/manga does not appeal to me

I made a serious effort to get into it in the mid-90s, largely because my then-girlfriend and a number of my friends were big fans, but it simply never worked for me.

Even omitting the tentacle porn and the fondness for short-skirted schoolgirls, I don't care for the overall look of the genre, nor the staggered animation style.


It's one of those YMMV deals, I guess.

[GOLGO 13]

48. Oh hell. You picked the worst decade to get into comics.

The entire American market went into a dark, deep tailspin & a lot of comic store went out of business. It's usually agreed that the 90's is refereed as "The Great Collapse". It was all trash. The entire decade is looked back with much hatred.

[Orrex]

50. Well...

I "got into" comics in the early 80s, but I didn't wade into anime/mange until a decade later.

Unless you count Speed Racer & Marine Boy, of course, which I watched at a toddler in the early 70s!

[GOLGO 13]

100. Speed Racer was the shit back then!

I also remember Gigantor: The Space Age Robot with supercool theme song. Battle of the Planets & Raideen (another giant robot anime). Those animes were bad-ass back in the day.

[Orrex]

106. I don't remember Gigantor by name, but...

I lived for my daily dose of Ultraman. I totally had a preschool crush on Fuji.

I liked Battle of the Planets ok, but I swear that my local channel didn't air the episodes in any sort of order, so it was impossible to follow the plot (not to mention the various edits to package it for the American market). Star Blazers was the same way--I swear they never aired two consecutive episodes back to back!

[hifiguy]

67. Oh brudda, the mid-1990s.

I managed a sci-fi/comic shop from 1990-1995.

Companies were popping out of the ground like mushrooms. That was the heyday of the "instant collector's item" limited edition covers and huge events to artificially pop sales. Remember The Death of Superman?"

When a new X-Men title came out - with SIX cover variants - preorders were in the 5 million range. I kept telling the owner of the store that the ludicrous print-run numbers represented a gigantic bubble fueled by speculators, and that it was going to pop. He and the assistant manager told me I was nuts and that the boom would go on for years. It popped a few months later and damn near took the industry down with it.

But somehow Rob Liefeld still finds work. Someone explain that to me. An ape with a Rapidograph could draw better comics.

[GOLGO 13]

101. LIEFELD!!!!!!!!

Is there a more despised name in all of comicdom? I think not.

[hifiguy]

103. He's a truly incompetent and horrendously gawdawful artist

and his writing is so indescribably ghastly it makes his art look like a combination of Neal Adams, Paul Gulacy and George Perez.

Res ipsa loquitur



That wouldn't pass muster in a sixth grade art class. That is so far beyond embarrassing that words fail me. For the uninitiated, that is NOT meant to be a failed attempt at cubism. This is the actual way Rob Liefeld thinks human anatomy works. And these roided-to-the-stars bodies balance on barely-drawn, tiny little pointed feet, like those on this chibi version of Applejack, from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic:



Yet he still works regularly. The GW Bush of the comic industry - total incompetence that somehow succeeded.

[kentauros]

43. When I did read (and semi-collect) comics up through the 90s

I didn't read the superhero stuff, unless it was unique (like FemForce or The Flaming Carrot.) I have many long-boxes of non-superhero comics, all independent stuff, including some manga, such as Akira, Nausicaa, and 2001.

As far as the anime characters you've depicted above, I only recognize a few of them. My favorites tend toward the works of Miyazaki, Takahata, Otomo. I admit that I haven't seen all of their movies, though I have seen most of Miyazaki's. The rest of the anime I've liked in the past (sometimes enough to buy the DVDs) includes the following, to give an idea of my tastes in stories and overall animation quality:

Last Exile
Ghost in the Shell (all movies and series)
Cowboy Bebop
Akira
Metropolis
Howl's Moving Castle
Grave of the Fireflies
Only Yesterday

The stuff Adult Swim shows is sometimes good, but most seem to be of the juvenile variety and quality, which usually turns me off (and thus the channel switches.)

I don't seek out anime like most fans. When I'm in the mood, I'll have a look at what's out there that I haven't seen and that piques my interests. Most likely what I'll do is seek out the movies of the above directors and watch those, both seen and never seen


And for those readers of this thread that are into the Golden Age comics, here are a couple of fine archives of comics from that era (other than comics from the big guys because they're so protective of their "intellectual property&quot :

The Digital Comic Museum
Comic Book +


This is the only comic I'm reading currently, and I'm several years behind the latest pages: Girl Genius by Phil and Kaja Foglio

Great thread!

[yuiyoshida]

60. By the way some of the characters in the photo are from the following

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anime:

Naruto
Inuyasha
Yugioh
Full Metal Alchemist
Death Note
Bleach
Dragonball Z

I have loved comics all my life. Loved the superheros, like Superman, The Flash,Green Lantern, Wonderwoman, Which is all DC. Later got into Marvel, and went to a comic book store one day and discovered TOP COW and Dark Horse Comics. Like Most, I got into Manga and Anime much later.. But there was a time when I came into a lot of money, and went crazy with a place in Japantown, that sold Anime. I bought a lot of anime, that was not being shown here in the states..though later the Cartoon Network starting showing Inuyasha, and Naruto...and many of the titles above. People on the internet started to finally catch up with many great Japanese anime series, that were being shown on free Anime websites. You could go though and watch what people recommended or find one that interested you.

Manga and Anime are really for all ages. I have heard stories of Seniors riding the train in Tokyo and reading their favorite manga that they picked up on the way to the train station. Its a shame that the attitude in this country is, that only kids and stupid adults read comic books. They are not only an art form but share great stories.

I loved Inuyasha (dog demon)

I have to include the ending credits of Inuyasha, as the song is beautiful and so very Japanese

Another popular anime was LOVE HINA

One anime not shown in the US is my all time favorite, called KAMICHU! which shows a lot of influence from Japanese Shinto.

Another popular anime in Japan was Onegai Teacher which was shown on the Cartoon Network. It also had a product placement for Pocky, a confectionery treat that became popular in the USA, soon after.

[kentauros]

64. I know, firsthand, that some of that dismissive attitude

stems from artists and art teachers. I recall showing my watercolor instructor some illustration pages from some graphic novel I was reading at the time. She practically did the snotty *sniff* and dismissed the art as merely "illustration." Academia seems to have a big problem with comic books of any kind. You'll always find the type that will take the literary-snob attitude towards it (as well as anything that isn't Pulitzer material), and they influence plenty of people. I wonder how many of them remember that scene in "Fahrenheit 451" where the 'newspaper' is nothing more than wordless comics. If comics didn't exist, that scene couldn't have been made.

I did watch Full Metal Alchemist for a little while, but there were some things they did with the characters and the animation style that made me lose interest (an example was when a character got angry, suddenly the style switched to low-quality and over-the-top exaggeration of expression.) If that kind of thing hadn't been included, I likely would have watched the series to the end.

Admittedly, the Tachikomas of Ghost in the Shell fascinate me, even with their high-pitched and almost childlike voices. They're AI, so I guess it can be surmised that their personalities are childlike, even as they are fighting machines for Section 9. Still, nothing in that series ever wavers from the quality and animation style I like in anime. I do need to look for "Serial Experiments Lain" as I started it on the old cable channel G4 and never got to finish it.

As far as my beginnings with comics, while my brothers certainly had some superhero comics around, like Ironman and The Metal Men (anyone remember that comic series?) I never bought any and wasn't as interested. Things changed in the late 70s when my next oldest brother began subscribing to the American version of Metal Hurlant ("Heavy Metal.&quot That I liked, and still have those first few years. Heavy Metal showed me what comics could be like, beyond the tame stuff of American comics.

That let to going to comic shops in the later 80s and seeing the new world of "Alternative Comics" such as Concrete, Stinz, Reid Fleming: World's Toughest Milkman, Maus, Hepcats, Omaha the Cat Dancer, and various TPB of European artists. I haven't been through my collection in so long that I can't remember everything I have in it. I do know there are plenty of one-shots and obscure titles, but I liked most anything that wasn't from Marvel/DC/Image, and often more enjoyable, such as with the few manga titles listed above

[yuiyoshida]

66. Great post, thank you!

A LOT OF people loved Full Metal Alchemist, including me!

[kentauros]

96. You're welcome :)

Last Exile is still one series that draws me back to it again and again, especially the opening music (GitS music is great, too, as it is for Cowboy Bebop.) I love steampunk and steampunk-inspired

[GOLGO 13]

102. "Reid Fleming: World's Toughest Milkman"

I thought I was the only one who ever read about the ribald tales of Reid Fleming: World's Toughest Milkman. You have proven yourself today good sir. I salute you!

[kentauros]

105. "Gimme 78 cents or I'll piss on your flowers!"

Who can't love a guy like that?

Do you know that at one point someone was considering making a movie, with Jim Belushi as Reid? I'm still not sure how well that would have worked out...


And who can't also love Milk and Cheese - Dairy Products Gone Bad!

[hifiguy]

108. One of my all-time favorite comics EVER.

M (singing): "If I had a hammer..."

C: "Milk, I HAVE a hammer."

A few panels later, Cheese is reading a newspaper with the headline "Hammer maniacs go on rampage."

[kentauros]

109. Oh, I wish I'd known they made those figures

I certainly would have gotten a pair! And taken them to parties

Aaaaand, here's the perfect panel for this whole thread:

[hifiguy]

110. "To save them in plastic bags and hide them

LIKE OUR MAILMAN COLLECTION!"

[kentauros]

111. I've been told (secondhand) that Evan Dorkin

is as crazy in person as the stuff he writes and draws

BIG PANELS--
--MEAN BIG TROUBLE!

I wonder if his mailman knows what his characters like to collect...

[LostOne4Ever]

70. Also Fairy Tail, D-Grayman, and One Piece

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]The only one I haven't seen is the character in the bottom left corner.

Speaking of Inu Yasha, the mangaka of that series also wrote two of my all time favorite manga Ranma 1/2 and Urusei Yatsura

Ranma was, and remains my all time favorite Manga

But Urusei Yatsura was just as good

And there are actually references to UY in Star Trek:[/font]

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-movie-jokes-you-missed-if-you-only-speak-english/

[yuiyoshida]

72. I love Rama 1/2

Its amazing how many of these Anime never reached American Tv, and yet many fans of Anime and Manga know many of them. I myself, still have the first 14 manga of Inuyasha. Those are collector items now, I guess. One of my favorites too was Ghost in The Shell, which sadly some idiot Producer here in the US wants to make a movie out of, based in Los Angeles instead of Tokyo and with no Japanese Actors!! Baka!!

[LostOne4Ever]

77. Zettai

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]I have the original American release of the Inu Yasha manga 1-12,14, and 22.

I also have the original american release of the Ranma 1/2 manga 1-15, and 18. I also have volumes 22 and 23 but stopped collecting after that because they changed the shape and design of the books.

However, not long ago I bought the entire collection (1-38) in Japanese so that I could practice learning Japanese with them

Currently, though, I am still kinda fixated on the new Fate/Stay Night series!

Well I better get off of DU and get back to studying studying Japanese so I can translate those manga!

[font style="font-family:'kaiti','MS Mincho','Fangsong',fantasy;" size=5 color=teal]今では、またね。[/font]
As for now, see ya later![/font]

[yuiyoshida]

81. A note of warning...

A few years ago I was in a chat room and met this guy who spoke Japanese, but it was very rough language. I asked him how he had come to learn Japanese, and he had told me by watching Anime. I told him, that while I applauded his desire to learn Japanese, the best way is by a formal class.

He scoffed and said he could not afford Japanese and said, he was efficient enough to go to Japan and get by.

I told him, that with the way his language was, he would most likely insult the people he met. You just don't learn Japanese that way. It would be like learning English by only listening to Rap Music. You will probably be made a fool.

In Japan, the language is very proper. It requires that you know what to say and how to say things in the proper fashion, and by using rough language used in some Anime, you may not only insult the people you are speaking to, in some cases you may end up with a black eye and bloody nose.

Japanese has various forms, from formal to informal and YOU MUST KNOW how to use them and when. I can give you an example.

This would be formal: Doumo Arigatou Gozaimasu.(Thank you)
This would be semi formal: Doumo Arigatou
This would be casual formal: Arigatou
This is casual: domo.

You will not learn this by listening to Anime. There are ways you talk to your boss or people of higher status such as Doctors, lawyers or Politicians, or even to customers. For good friends it will be different. You have to know how to use the language in the Japanese tradition.

[LostOne4Ever]

83. Thanks for the warning

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]But worry not, I just plan to use it as an aide and supplement.

I bought a CD on learning the language properly and am also using a website designed to teach the language properly.

Though, looking back, I might have been too informal by saying mata ne, instead of sayonara*. if so,

[font style="font-family:'kaiti','MS Mincho','Fangsong',fantasy;" size=5 color=teal]すみません[/font]

my apologies.


*It is my understanding that [font style="font-family:'kaiti','MS Mincho','Fangsong',fantasy;" size=5 color=teal]さよなら[/font] is considered very final so I went with a casual farewell.[/font]

[yuiyoshida]

85. Its funny, the guy I mentioned

Told me that he was going to go to Japan, and no, he wasn't going to learn Nihongo formally.
I told him well, I bet you will have problems there, how about meeting me in this chat room when You get back, and telling me of your experiences.

He never did come back to the chat room, nor did I hear from him. He had been adamant that he could get by with his language skills, but I know for a fact, he would probably end up with the tag baka gaijin.

Many Japanese, especially in Tokyo, are probably used to the stupid American foreigner who thinks its cool to show off their uncouth skills in the language.. and doing silly things like not learning taboos before going to Japan results in an unsatisfactory trip to another country.

If one is going to Japan, one needs to learn what is proper and what is not. The Japanese love and respect their traditions and etiquette very highly and frown on those who simply scoff or disrespect it, in some cases will not think lightly of grabbing someone and teaching them a very hard lesson.

[LostOne4Ever]

86. I can't help but imagining that person going up to Kouban and referring to the police officers as:

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal][font style="font-family:'kaiti','MS Mincho','Fangsong',fantasy;" size=5 color=teal]お前[/font]

or

[font style="font-family:'kaiti','MS Mincho','Fangsong',fantasy;" size=5 color=teal]てめえ[/font]

or

[font style="font-family:'kaiti','MS Mincho','Fangsong',fantasy;" size=5 color=teal]貴様[/font]

I would imagine that someone might get the impression that is a fine and proper way to refer to people that way if they learned all their Japanese from anime alone.

I have no plans currently of going to Japan, but who knows what the future holds and I plan to be prepared

I mainly want to learn it because I want to better enjoy things like anime and manga, and also because I think the written language is beautiful.

Though at the rate I am going I probably will be in my sixties before I reach any level of proficiency. But, it is fun and that is what matters most right?[/font]

[hifiguy]

92. So learning Japanese from some types of cartoons

is rather like learning English from the likes of South Park or Beavis and Butt-head. That makes sense.

I am aware of the many levels of formality commonly used in speaking most Asian languages. They can be quite confusing to Americans, but that's our problem.

[yuiyoshida]

94. yes...

Imagine someone learning English by using Rap lyrics as a guide. Try getting by in the US, trying to get a job, try to buy a car, or rent an apartment. You will most likely not succeed.

[hifiguy]

80. Those and Mai the Psychic Girl were my introduction

to manga back in the 1998s, and I managed a sci-fi/comic shop. Loved 'em all back in the day.

[GOLGO 13]

44. I recognize about 90% of those characters & their respective manga/anime.

Not a fan of all of them but there's good stuff there. I tend to swing towards the horror/supernatural genre so...y'know.

Death-Note was just great. Both the manga & the anime. Haven't seen the live action movies yet.

I'm all in with Attack on Titan right now. English translations can't come fast enough for me. The anime is just really, really top shelf quality. I hear the live action movies are utter garbage. Hopefully, an American studio will grab the rights and make a big LOTR type of epic that this IP deserves. Just please Hollywood, no fucking Tom Cruise.

Watching the Parasyte anime now & the voice acting is spot on. Finished reading the manga & I like the open way it ended. It felt right.

Big, big fan of the horror master Junji Ito's manga work. So disturbing...I love it. I haven't read everything he's done, I'm slowly savoring it. I'm currently also following "I Am A Hero" by Hanazawa & "HIVE" by South Korean artist KIM Gyu-Sam. Hanazawa's artwork is damn nice. Kim...eh, well, he tells a really good story. Hero could be a really good TV series. HIVE is just perfect for big budget Hollywood trilogy production.

So between all the manga & regular horror stuff like Hellboy/The Goon/Crossed my Marvel/DC stuff has been pushed further & further back. Nice problem to have.

[Xyzse]

45. I like all of them.

However, lately I find myself reading fan translations of light novels as well as Wuxia.

That is pretty much all I have energy for at the moment.

[GOLGO 13]

49. I picked up a stack of discount Wuxia comics in th 90's

from a store in NYC/Chinatown. Couldn't read any of it but the artwork was spectacular.

[Xyzse]

54. Yes, it usually is.

Lately, I've been stuck on the following novels:

-Coiling Dragon
-Against the Gods
-Long Live Summons

Although I follow around 30 different web novel translations just so that I have something to read every day.

[ileus]

47. I never was impressed with that comic books as a kid.

[Marr]

51. The best comic I've read in recent years was, believe it or not,

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GI Joe: Cobra, from IDW.

Mike Costa intended to tell a much more sophisticated, complex, adult sort of story and to use the most absurd characters in GI Joe to do it. Sounds like a project doomed to failure but my god, it was fantastic. It would honestly make a great movie, or pair of movies.

It's a very dense, tense sort of spy drama with lots of twists and turns and he actually makes Cobra seem terrifying and believable. It's halfway between a religious cult and something like Blackwater.

[JackInGreen]

52. Mah crunchyroll sub is my lifeline

When I can't clear my sub box or hot Uwagimaya for manga.


Let's not get on the household NEET Fujioshi I married....she's terrible (in the best ways)

[Lyric]

53. Other: Adults who obsess over cartoons are creepy.

The format is irrelevant.

[edhopper]

58. Well

“Comics deal with two fundamental communicating devices: words and images. Admittedly this is an arbitrary separation. But, since in the modern world of communication they are treated as independent disciplines, it seems valid. Actually, the are derivatives of a single origin and in the skillful employment of words and images lies the expressive potential of the medium.”
― Will Eisner, Comics and Sequential Art

[yuiyoshida]

61. You mean Otaku?

Otaku means someone who stays at home mostly obsessing over things like anime doll figures, toys, Anime, manga and various other things. Its funny that in Japan to be an Otaku was a bad thing. But then, Here comes the Americans, claiming to be "Otaku" and making it a word to be proud of, and to Celebrate.. Which is why we have so many conventions here in the states. In Japan, they have conventions, but most of any items to obsess about can be found in Akihabara where they have electronics and Anime. There are other districts that also cater to those kinds of items, like in Shibuya, Ginza, Harajuku, and Jinbōchō.

[Codeine]

88. Your hobbies suck too. nt

[hunter]

91. "Creepy" compared to what???

Nothing quite compares to the creepiness of U.S.A. gun love and Fundamentalist Christianity.

Christian Bride Gives Pastor Dad “Certificate of Purity” at Wedding to Prove She’s Still a Virgin
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027275333

Anyone else seen the latest stupidity from the NRA?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027275338

Josh Duggar???

A coal mine?

I love art of all sorts. It's the finest thing we humans do; from a five year old's drawing on the family refrigerator, to an interesting novel, to a blockbuster movie, to science and medicine.

Food, shelter, love, and art... What else is there?

[Blue_Tires]

97. What if the cartoons got nekkid ladies in 'em?

[kentauros]

98. Like this?

Although watching that just makes me want to listen to my copy of that brilliant (and beautiful) soundtrack yet again

[Nuclear Unicorn]

55. I voted that adults who read comics are childish but I consider that a virtue.

I forget if it was C. S. Lewis or G. K. Chesterton but one them remarked that when he was a child all he wanted to do was be an adult; he was obsessed with seeming mature. Then he read St. Paul saying he became a man and put away childish things and the commentator realized that included his abandoning the simple joys of childhood imagination and a sense of wonderment.

[Marr]

57. Comics are just another medium, like any other.

There's nothing inherently childish about the format. Comics used to feature almost nothing but material for kids in the US, but that was decades ago, and only here. In Asia, particularly Japan, comics carry no such holdover connotations and you can find adults reading just about any genre, from horror to romantic comedy.

[yuiyoshida]

62. I prefer childlike over childish

semantics, I know, but Childlike can have a positive spin where as Childish will have a negative connotation.

[LostOne4Ever]

79. C.S. Lewis

[Nuclear Unicorn]

90. Thank you for that.

[yuiyoshida]

99. Awesome

love this song too: Ashita Wa Kyou To Onaji Mirai by Ghomes and the hitmen

[Rhythm]

59. I've enjoyed all three for my entire life...

I got hooked early... I'm a child of the old "The House of Mystery" comics and original 'Speed Racer' cartoons...
From my teens through late 20's, i amassed a wild collection of comics, original art by comic artists, manga, anime tapes, and resin model kits and toys depicting favorite characters.

That was a ~long~ time ago...

Still love each medium individually, though i have grown away from the obsessive collecting of my youth and young-adulthood.
(hey... i have less disposable income now... i have a family to take care of).

I ~do~ however, have two indelible souvenirs of my youthful obsessions:
A tattoo on my right upper arm depicting the main characters from James O'Barr's comic "The Crow"
~and~
On my left arm resides a beautiful character sketch of Yoshitaka Amano's protagonist, "Vampire Hunter D".

[yuiyoshida]

63. cool beans!!

[karadax]

68. They're great for both parent and kid.

I was a religious reader of Archie comics when I was a kid. I loved me those double digests.

My oldest is 6 and she loves her DC comics. We just finished a pretty cool story arc called Convergence. Alternate universes, different versions of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, all forced to fight each other to survive.

I made sure she caught the comic book bug. Imagination is key to out of the box thinking. Something the world needs more of IMO.

[yuiyoshida]

74. Yeah, comics are a great way to learn to read

And I can say that they catapulted me on to greater works of art. I appreciated both art and literature. Thinking of the stuff that has come out recently, the stories are totally amazing. I suppose that's why I love manga and anime so much, is the creativity behind them.

In Japan not only do they have anime conventions, but there are many conventions that only
cater to amateur artists. Each year in Japan, they hold these conventions to show off the talent that comes from those inspired by real artists!

Dōjinshi
is the Japanese term for self-published works, usually magazines, manga or novels. Dōjinshi are often the work of amateurs, though some professional artists participate as a way to publish material outside the regular industry. The term dōjinshi is derived from dōjin literally "same person", used to refer to a person or persons with whom one shares a common goal or interest) and shi a suffix generally meaning "periodical publication&quot . Dōjinshi are part of a wider category of dōjin including, but not limited to, art collections, anime, hentai and games. Groups of dōjinshi artists refer to themselves as a sākuru (circle). A number of such groups actually consist of a single artist: they are sometimes called kojin sākuru , personal circles).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C5%8Djinshi

[LostOne4Ever]

69. I absolutely love comics, manga, western animation, and anime

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=teal]If I had any skill, being a comic artist would be a dream job for me [/font]

[yuiyoshida]

71. me too, and I miss not having time enough

for it like I used to. I would love going to my favorite shop in Nihonmachi, Japantown and spending time picking up my favorite anime and bringing them home. You know, there was a time when I had lost my job, and needed money to eat on, so I had to sell off all my DvDs each week but I swore I would never sell my Anime, and I still have them. The only ones I did sell, were my Bleach Anime, cause at that time Bleach was seemingly to go on forever. I had to stop watching it because I could not purchase them any longer.

[olddots]

73. I think they are all garbage

But I want you all to love me .

[yuiyoshida]

75. Ten Anime Series You Should See Before You Die

Tim Maughan
Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:00pm 218 comments 2 Favorites [+]

First off I’d just like to say a huge thank you to everyone that read my list of ten anime films you should see before you die—the response has been phenomenal—not just the number of people who read it, but also those who took the time out to get involved in the following discussion. Some people loved my selections, some people thought I was well off the mark, but it was clear that there was no way I was going to be able to avoid putting together another list, this time of TV series.

It has been a far harder list to compile. Not only because of the vast selection to choose from, but also because I knew from the start that I would be leaving out some shows that a lot of people hold very dear. As such, I hope that at least some of you will read the next paragraph first before scrolling down the list to see what is missing and getting upset.


Just like last time, the aim of the list is not only to present ten examples of the anime medium that showcase the art form at its greatest, but also ten examples that are accessible to those mature viewers for whom the scene is new or even completely alien. They are works that I would show to those friends that turn their noses up at anime—we all have them—to prove to them how utterly wrong they are. To do this they must be not only masterpieces of animation, direction and storytelling, but immediately accessible to any viewer. As such, I have had to leave out popular fan favourites, slice-of-life comedies and high school dramas that are aimed too directly at the otaku demographic and which rely on an understanding of the genre and Japanese pop culture to fully appreciate. Similarly, for us older fans, I’ve left out some longer series that I personally hold very dear—groundbreaking shows like Patlabor, Legends of the Galactic Heroes and VOTOMS—just because the commitment involved in watching such epically long series is probably too daunting for new anime viewers.

Again: The below picks are in no particular order, the term “mature” is kind of loose—seeing as at least two are really “kids” shows—and this is purely personal opinion. If you disagree, see you in the comments section.

http://www.tor.com/2011/11/17/ten-anime-series-you-should-see-before-you-die/

[Warren DeMontague]

76. It's absolutely "okay" for adults to like comic books, manga and anime

It's not what I'm into, but i respect people who like em.

[yuiyoshida]

95. I never felt my IQ dropped while reading

on the contrary I learned more about shinto.

[GOLGO 13]

104. Damn! Look at that linework. Beautiful.

I tool drawing classes at NYC/Fashion Institute of Technology. There were 2 Japanese girls that put everybody to shame with their artwork. They were drawing since pre-HS in Japan & they indicated that their teachers considered their output as "middling".

The quality of artists I've seen drawing manga is breathtakingly exceptional. My understanding is that not only must the quality be "top-shelf" but that the quantity of weekly pages demanded is voluminous. Mangakas are no joke.

[hunter]

107. For your consideration: The creepiest comic ever!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Is...

Don't ever mess with that.

It's the third rail of the comic universe. Don't lick it.

[hifiguy]

112. It's still RUNNING???

"Casali commissioned London-based British cartoonist Bill Asprey to take over the writing and drawing of the daily cartoons for her, under her pen name.[6] Asprey has produced the cartoon continuously since 1975."

From your link.