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hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 06:28 PM Oct 2015

Forty years ago America's plutocrats devised a plan to depopulate the Third World.

And you can bet it's now headed home.

Kissinger’s 1974 Plan for Food Control Genocide
by Joseph Brewda
Dec. 8, 1995

On Dec. 10, 1974, the U.S. National Security Council under Henry Kissinger completed a classified 200-page study, “National Security Study Memorandum 200: Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for U.S. Security and Overseas Interests.” The study falsely claimed that population growth in the so-called Lesser Developed Countries (LDCs) was a grave threat to U.S. national security. Adopted as official policy in November 1975 by President Gerald Ford, NSSM 200 outlined a covert plan to reduce population growth in those countries through birth control, and also, implicitly, war and famine. Brent Scowcroft, who had by then replaced Kissinger as national security adviser (the same post Scowcroft was to hold in the Bush administration), was put in charge of implementing the plan. CIA Director George Bush was ordered to assist Scowcroft, as were the secretaries of state, treasury, defense, and agriculture.

The bogus arguments that Kissinger advanced were not original. One of his major sources was the Royal Commission on Population, which King George VI had created in 1944 “to consider what measures should be taken in the national interest to influence the future trend of population.” The commission found that Britain was gravely threatened by population growth in its colonies, since “a populous country has decided advantages over a sparsely-populated one for industrial production.” The combined effects of increasing population and industrialization in its colonies, it warned, “might be decisive in its effects on the prestige and influence of the West,” especially effecting “military strength and security.”

http://www.schillerinstitute.org/food_for_peace/kiss_nssm_jb_1995.html

And imagine that, War Criminal Kissinger and GHW Bush were right at the center of the plan.

The Next Logical Step. Coming soon. Count on it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027278432#top

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027278011

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Forty years ago America's plutocrats devised a plan to depopulate the Third World. (Original Post) hifiguy Oct 2015 OP
If one researches- ruffburr Oct 2015 #1
This one is all straight out of government archives. hifiguy Oct 2015 #2
More and - ruffburr Oct 2015 #3
Übermenschen und Untermenschen Octafish Oct 2015 #4
I am inclined to believe McNamara's mea culpa hifiguy Oct 2015 #8
The planet needs population control, like, yesterday. frizzled Oct 2015 #5
True, but deliberately starving millions to death hifiguy Oct 2015 #6
No argument there, though it's not clear even Dr. K wanted that. frizzled Oct 2015 #7
Using food as a weapon was near the top of Kissinger's list. hifiguy Oct 2015 #9
Food aid is, generally, a horrible idea from a sustainability POV, and destroys markets frizzled Oct 2015 #11
FAIL. LaRouche's wife is the board chair of the "Schiller Institute". KamaAina Oct 2015 #10
The document is very real hifiguy Oct 2015 #12
I do not doubt that. KamaAina Oct 2015 #13
K & R malaise Oct 2015 #14

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
1. If one researches-
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 06:39 PM
Oct 2015

How Many so called conspiracy theories have turned out to be Conspiracy Fact you may be in for a shock, While Theories are abundant at least 10 have been proven. As the days go by these conspiracies are unraveling at a unprecedented rate due to the internet and the people.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
2. This one is all straight out of government archives.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 06:43 PM
Oct 2015

Every word. I am a natural skeptic, but the dots of reality are too easy to connect with the major so-called conspiracies (RFK, JFK, MLK), particularly if there is any CIA connection.

You don't even need to connect the dots with this one - it's all as plain as a pikestaff and admitted to/signed off on by all the usual suspects right out there in front of everybody.

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
3. More and -
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 06:51 PM
Oct 2015

More is out there all the time, Finally the P.N.A.C Document is being brought out of the dustbin for reappraisal , Snowden and his revelations, The Drone scandal, Daily these things are coming to light, Whistle Blowers are Heroes.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. Übermenschen und Untermenschen
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:03 PM
Oct 2015


Henry Kissinger on Robert McNamara: “Boohoo, boohoo … He’s still beating his breast, right? Still feeling guilty. ” (Pretending to cry, rubbing his eyes.)
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
8. I am inclined to believe McNamara's mea culpa
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:16 PM
Oct 2015

was very real. I think he lived out his life a sad, tortured and regretful manwho realized the nature of what he helped create.

McNamara wrote of his close personal friendship with Jackie Kennedy, and how she demanded that he stop the killing in Vietnam.

* * *

According to his lengthy New York Times obituary, "[h]e concluded well before leaving the Pentagon that the war was futile, but he did not share that insight with the public until late in life. In 1995, he took a stand against his own conduct of the war, confessing in a memoir that it was 'wrong, terribly wrong.'" In return, he faced a "firestorm of scorn" at that time.

* * *

The Vietnam War was a big misunderstanding; the North Vietnamese were fighting a civil war and the United States was fighting the Cold War. He claims this misunderstanding was because he saw what he wanted to see in that conflict. The former opposing General was incredulous to McNamara, when asked about Communist China supporting the North, the general asked if he had ever read a textbook because China and Vietnam had been fighting each other for a thousand years. Also shocking, especially for a US official with his position, he admits earlier in the documentary that firebombing Tokyo with General LeMay was a war crime and they both knew it- but "only if they lost the war."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_McNamara


A seriously flawed man who pursued awful policies, but at least he had a conscience, if not the courage of it when it counted most. Which is a tragedy of its own kind.

 

frizzled

(509 posts)
5. The planet needs population control, like, yesterday.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:05 PM
Oct 2015

This actually makes me think better of that old war criminal Kissinger.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
6. True, but deliberately starving millions to death
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:08 PM
Oct 2015

does have a rather Himmlerian ring to it, you must admit.

 

frizzled

(509 posts)
7. No argument there, though it's not clear even Dr. K wanted that.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:09 PM
Oct 2015

Population control is yet another of those Things We Can't Talk About Because People Get Offended.

If you want millions to starve population control is the *last* thing you'd support.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
9. Using food as a weapon was near the top of Kissinger's list.
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:17 PM
Oct 2015

A second measure was curtailing food supplies to targetted states, in part to force compliance with birth control policies: “There is also some established precedent for taking account of family planning performance in appraisal of assistance requirements by AID [U.S. Agency for International Development] and consultative groups. Since population growth is a major determinant of increases in food demand, allocation of scarce PL 480 resources should take account of what steps a country is taking in population control as well as food production. In these sensitive relations, however, it is important in style as well as substance to avoid the appearance of coercion.”

 

frizzled

(509 posts)
11. Food aid is, generally, a horrible idea from a sustainability POV, and destroys markets
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:27 PM
Oct 2015

1. I'd much rather we banned food aid and let poor countries compete fairly on exports instead.

2. Wealthy donors to poor countries can already demand wholesale restructuring of economies. Why can't they expect the recipients take reasonable steps to control their population? Otherwise it's a form of moral hazard.

3. In the last 30 years Ethiopia (say) has gone from 40 million to 100 million people. It's insane. When climate change hits where are they all going to go?

4. The best known way to curtail populations is to make them wealthier, grow their middle class, and educate and liberate women from sexism.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
12. The document is very real
Thu Oct 22, 2015, 07:37 PM
Oct 2015

and readily available from several on line sources.

http://www.population-security.org/28-APP2.html

http://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PCAAB500.pdf

It's all right there in the text of the document at the .gov link. Starting at page 56.

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