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(47,432 posts)
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:23 PM Oct 2015

No, Mr. V.P. Biden, we cannot repeat Kennedy's promise to get to the moon

with a similar promise to cure cancer.

Nixon tried it back in 1971 ( think).

Why? Because getting to the moon was a physics and engineering endeavor. You plug in the numbers in the equations - more or less - and you got your mission. The law of physics and mathematics have been pretty constant for the past 200 years.

Biology and medicine is an entirely different problem. It is not just that "cancer" is a catch all term that is different when the affected organ is brain, or blood, or liver, etc. It is that as much as many (engineers) would like to believe, biological functions cannot be neatly arranged into algorithms. We have evolved and developed over the years. We have adapted. Nature around us varies. We have our immune system that functions differently in different individuals. We have genes that too often malfunction.

Even the new, super expensive drugs to fight certain forms of cancer are derived from the individual immune cells.

The only thing that we can do, continue to do, is developing early detection tests. Yes, including annual mammograms for every woman starting at age 40. Now this is a topic you should address.

(Biden and his wife were interviewed on "60 minutes.&quot

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No, Mr. V.P. Biden, we cannot repeat Kennedy's promise to get to the moon (Original Post) question everything Oct 2015 OP
Yes, Nixon declared a "war on cancer"... PoliticAverse Oct 2015 #1
There is no one cure for cancer. longship Oct 2015 #2
Wrong commitment just now, anyway Spider Jerusalem Oct 2015 #3
Cancer can be prevented, treated, and sometimes cured. MasonDreams Oct 2015 #4

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. There is no one cure for cancer.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:12 AM
Oct 2015

Because cancer is not just one illness, and is really, really complex. That is why breast cancer has had many significant advances in treatment, and pancreatic cancers not so much so.

The best medical Blog on the Net is probably Science-Based Medicine which not only takes on all the quackery but helps one think scientifically and learn about how medicine actually works in practice.

I highly recommend it. And one of the doctors who Blogs there is Dr. David Gorski, who is a Canadian oncologist surgeon specializing in breast cancer. He also has his own Blog under the title Respectful Insolence and under the Blogger name Orac.

The SBM Blog was started by a teaching clinical neurologist at Yale named Dr. Steven Novella, who has got to be one of the sharpest persons I have ever encountered on the Net. He also hosts a ridiculously popular science podcast, the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe. He also coined the term, "science-based" medicine.

There are many other medical experts there. It is a very active and informative Blog.

I hope this helps your post.

Best regards to you.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
3. Wrong commitment just now, anyway
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:20 AM
Oct 2015

better use of resources? A project of similar scale to eliminate fossil fuels. Climate change and sea level rise threaten the planet; cancer is not anywhere near as much of a problem.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
4. Cancer can be prevented, treated, and sometimes cured.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:32 AM
Oct 2015

If you Don't breathe, drink, or eat the artificial crap "Industry" spews, you"ll be OK.
Read "Back to Eden" by Kloss or Koss. And, just for the record, the Saturn V was 363 feet tall.
50+ taller than the Statue of Liberty. It weighed 6.5 million lbs. Most of this weight was liquid oxygen, liquid hydrogen, and kerosene.
We had to invent the hardware, software, and advance computer tech. The steering wheel, gyroscope stabilization, and star navigation were difficult problems. The only way to steer is to move the engines, slightly, with precision. These engines are pushing with 7,500,000 lbs. of thrust. Make me a bracket to hold those engines in place, but I need to adjust the angle. How much? uh, well, I"ll need to know a few other things first. The city with the highest per capita concentration of PHD's on earth solved those problems.
Brain surgery is a cake walk compared to Rocket Science.

Cancer could be cured if there was an incentive to do so. The money is made not with cures but endless "treatment".
Modern Western Medicine can't cure type II diabetes with diet and exercise. They don't make any $$$ that way.
I watched a man who was very close to developmentally disabled cure his type II with diet and exercise.
Western Medicine could advance quickly just by incorporating World Medical Knowledge already known

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