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ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 03:19 PM Nov 2015

Was Ohio's Marijuana Vote Stolen? TV Screen Shots Show Massive Number of Votes Flipping

Televised screen shots taken Tuesday night of live election returns in Ohio provided by the Secretary of State's office showed hundreds of thousands of votes flipping from the "yes" to "no" column of Issue 3, the ballot measure to legalize marijuana.

When seen against the backdrop of Ohio's longstanding history of Republicans manipulating the vote count to obtain the outcome they seek, such as in the 2004 presidential election when Ohio returns elected George W. Bush to a second term, there are compelling reasons to question the official result where the pot measure went down to defeat.

To understand the context for this likely chicanery, you have to understand the backdrop of current Ohio politics.

According to the election night returns provided by Secretary of State Jon Husted, the people of Ohio defeated a November 3 proposition to legalize marijuana by a tally of nearly two-to-one.



MORE HERE: http://www.alternet.org/drugs/was-ohios-marijuana-vote-stolen-tv-screen-shots-show-massive-number-votes-flipping

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Was Ohio's Marijuana Vote Stolen? TV Screen Shots Show Massive Number of Votes Flipping (Original Post) ghostsinthemachine Nov 2015 OP
This, and the crickets from DNC, makes me more than a little nervous ... 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #1
It does make you wonder doesn't it? nt haikugal Nov 2015 #6
In the scheme of things ... ananda Nov 2015 #14
The referendum was a scam redstateblues Nov 2015 #2
Exactly. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #3
^----- Exactly CincyDem Nov 2015 #7
And one of the 10 was Nick Lachey! TexasBushwhacker Nov 2015 #11
So was Oscar Robertson. n/t CincyDem Nov 2015 #15
Look at the screens. The percentage stays the same. But who it's for changes. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #4
The total count of "Yes" votes decreases from screen 1 to screen 2. Jim__ Nov 2015 #5
They may be testing to see if anything is done about it. So obviously rigged litlbilly Nov 2015 #8
If our courts weren't so corrupt, this bullshit could be dealt with. valerief Nov 2015 #9
I'm calling BS on the article NobodyHere Nov 2015 #10
That monopoly shit was pretty flaky. tabasco Nov 2015 #12
Urban vs rural safeinOhio Nov 2015 #13
I didn't see any flip Bradical79 Nov 2015 #16
It was a shitty initiative, that is why it lost. Even Willie Nelson was against it. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #17
It was stinking piggish law, I would have voted no because I am in favor of actual legal cannabis Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #18
Better question: Were Kentucky voting machines flipping votes to GOP. Something fishy. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #19
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
1. This, and the crickets from DNC, makes me more than a little nervous ...
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 03:32 PM
Nov 2015

Hell, we've had nearly 8 fucking years with a Dem in the WH, and this vote-flipping
chicanery by ReThugs continues, unchallenged, without a peep from the national
Democratic Party, which has EVERYTHING to lose, and nothing to gain from their
silence on this.

Yes, yes .. I know, Obama can't do everything ... but still ..

ananda

(28,854 posts)
14. In the scheme of things ...
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 05:01 PM
Nov 2015

... Obama is more Republican corporatist with a slight
leaning toward centrist social policies.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
2. The referendum was a scam
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 03:36 PM
Nov 2015

by a small group of investors to control the sale of pot. Ohioans, to their credit, realized it and voted it down.

CincyDem

(6,346 posts)
7. ^----- Exactly
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 04:11 PM
Nov 2015

The actual ballot language for the issue started with the phrase "Create a monopoly..." Says a a lot.

I think there would have been a lot more support for this had it been a "clean bill" but weed was the means to an end. The end being 10 landowners getting a state sponsored windfall like Ohio hasn't seen since the railroads were given right of way.

My initial position on this was "Hell yes". When I finally got down to reading the issue and doing a little homework, I think we can do better. This'll be back and it'll be stronger.

Jim__

(14,072 posts)
5. The total count of "Yes" votes decreases from screen 1 to screen 2.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 03:53 PM
Nov 2015

969, 000 and change to 614,000 and change. That can't happen by just counting more precincts.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
9. If our courts weren't so corrupt, this bullshit could be dealt with.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 04:17 PM
Nov 2015

If angry young men didn't protect the oligarchs, this bullshit could be dealt with.

Angry young men run the world. They have no clue what they're doing or how they're being manipulated, but they hold all the power. The oligarchs press the buttons. The angry young men kill on command on their behalf.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
10. I'm calling BS on the article
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 04:19 PM
Nov 2015

I was watching the returns myself and marijuana was losing all night. The link says the votes on prop 1 flipped as well. I know that prop 1 was dominating every time I checked in.

Either it was a bad app they're looking at or they doctored the photos.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
12. That monopoly shit was pretty flaky.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 04:42 PM
Nov 2015

This was a fucked-up attempt to legalize.

Next year, so I read, they're going to try again without that bullshit monopoly included.

safeinOhio

(32,656 posts)
13. Urban vs rural
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 04:48 PM
Nov 2015

Along the lake and big cities could carry it if they vote. The rest of the state is Ohiossippi.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
16. I didn't see any flip
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:08 PM
Nov 2015

Was watching all night. Also, doesn't make sense that Hustled would flip issue one from no to yes considering it doesn't favor his party. I think they just had a screwed up feed/app.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
17. It was a shitty initiative, that is why it lost. Even Willie Nelson was against it.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:15 PM
Nov 2015

If your pot legalization initiative is so bad Willie doesnt like it, you need to start over.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. It was stinking piggish law, I would have voted no because I am in favor of actual legal cannabis
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 07:39 PM
Nov 2015

for all. This was a scam to benefit a few and the very opposite of what good cannabis legalization looks like. The opposite.
Next they propose a better law and pass that one. That's what Oregon did.

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