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marmar

(77,066 posts)
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 07:54 AM Nov 2015

Amy Goodman: Doesn't Anyone Remember the Geneva Convention?


Even War Has Rules

Posted on Nov 11, 2015
By Amy Goodman and Denis Moynihan


No one disputes that the United States military attacked a hospital in the city of Kunduz, Afghanistan, in the pre-dawn hours of Saturday, Oct. 3. The airstrike on the Doctors Without Borders facility, the Kunduz Trauma Center, was devastating, with at least 30 people killed. Patients in the only intensive-care unit in the region were burned to death in their beds. Medical staffers were killed by shrapnel bombs that tore off their limbs. At least one person was decapitated. As people fled the burning building, the U.S. AC-130 gunship slaughtered them from above with automatic fire. Doctors and other medical staff were shot while running to reach safety in a different part of the compound.

The Kunduz Trauma Center had been in the same place, performing thousands of surgeries and treating tens of thousands of people in the emergency room, for four years. Doctors Without Borders, known internationally by its French name, Medecins Sans Frontieres, or MSF, had repeatedly provided the exact GPS coordinates of the hospital complex to U.S. and Afghan government officials. “As a precondition of opening the hospital, we negotiated with both the U.S., Afghan, NATO, as well as opposition forces, with the Taliban. We received the support of all of those groups to operate this hospital,” Jason Cone, the executive director of Doctors Without Borders USA, told us on the “Democracy Now!” news hour. “Part of that was sharing our GPS coordinates with the various parties. We shared them as recently as September 29th.”

Sept. 29 was an important day in Kunduz. Battles for control of the city had been raging since April. On Sept. 28, a Taliban force reported to be only 500 strong routed 7,000 Afghan National Army troops, capturing Kunduz. This was the first major city that the Taliban had taken since the U.S invasion and occupation began in October 2001, when the Taliban were driven from power. MSF knew that the front line of the conflict had come to their door, and that there would be many more casualties flooding the hospital. “It was probably the most well-lit structure in the entire city of Kunduz, which has about 300,000 people in it, because we were running generators that night,” Cone said.

When asked if the attack constituted a war crime, Cone employed the precise language of the humanitarian-aid worker: “There’s been a lot of discussion about whether or not this was a mistake. This is not necessarily the threshold that has to be crossed for this to constitute a grave breach of international humanitarian law. If the military fails to distinguish between military and civilian targets, as is in this case, from our standpoint, from everything we know, then they’re guilty.” ..................(more)

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/even_war_has_rules_20151111




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Amy Goodman: Doesn't Anyone Remember the Geneva Convention? (Original Post) marmar Nov 2015 OP
Alberto Gonzales famously dismissed the Geneva Convention as "quaint" Orrex Nov 2015 #1
Oh rules, rules, rules. Omar4Dems Nov 2015 #2
Perfectly relevant. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #3
Rulesapparently don't apply to the present malaise Nov 2015 #4
Some days I'm ashamed to be an American. Scuba Nov 2015 #5
The US military can do no wrong, apparently. alarimer Nov 2015 #6
We kissed that goodbye some time ago. nt bemildred Nov 2015 #7
It would be nice if war had rules. AngryAmish Nov 2015 #8
only westerners are covered by GC KG Nov 2015 #9
No; no we don't gratuitous Nov 2015 #10

Orrex

(63,191 posts)
1. Alberto Gonzales famously dismissed the Geneva Convention as "quaint"
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 08:57 AM
Nov 2015

And few in power have contradicted him since then.

Omar4Dems

(128 posts)
2. Oh rules, rules, rules.
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 10:42 AM
Nov 2015

"Do not speak to me of rules. This is war! This is not a game of cricket!"

-- The Bridge on the River Kwai

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
6. The US military can do no wrong, apparently.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:32 AM
Nov 2015

Geneva Convention is just a petty consideration.

I'm being sarcastic, but there are plenty of people who believe it.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. No; no we don't
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 02:56 PM
Nov 2015

And if the subject wasn't so grisly, it would almost be comical when we object to videos of ISIS beheading someone or roasting them alive in a cage. The United States has no credibility to condemn anyone else's actions, and that's part of the reason to observe the Geneva Conventions. But we don't participate in the International Criminal Court, either, so that we can maintain our exceptionally exceptionalist exceptionalism as the greatest, kindest, most benevolent country the world has ever seen. Like our shit don't stink.

But, now that this crime against humanity is in the past, we can look forward to the future.

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