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The incident, which actually happened on January 30th of this year, came to light after the Henderson Police Department agreed to force Nevada taxpayers to pay the victims family $13,000 to make up for their reckless actions. In addition, police released the dash cam videos of the incident after the settlement announcement.
More asshole cops attacking an infant!
On Edit: Don't watch the video. If you do, stop it at 1:45. Trust me. What you hear is blood curdling.
Vinca
(50,237 posts)Apparently, law enforcement in this country has turned into a bunch of pants pee-ers who are afraid of babies.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)A useless breed for anything other then fast hard bites. Police are crappy trainers who only care about bite work training, The Malinois breed is a DANGEROUS dog in the hands of poor quality handlers.
Once that breed is "trained" to bite they are ruined as a safe dog to ever have out in public.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)who broke into my home at night trying to rob my house.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Is being drowned with slobber and covered with enough hair to be unrecognizable.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)newfie11
(8,159 posts)there are a few reports of bites from Newfies.
None of mine would bite.0
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)None of them ever bit anyone. Such great, loyal, heroic dogs, and each one a distinct, unique personality.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Calypso, a littermate of two of my dogs (Belgian Groenendael), became a service dog for a man with a degenerative health condition.
http://www.vetstreet.com/dogs/see-9-11-therapy-dog-eli-at-national-dog-show
From the start, Sherry Hanley knew Eli was special.
And it turned out that the beautiful Belgian Sheepdog wasnt special only to her hes been an extraordinary presence to the countless people hes helped as a therapy dog.
Eli is sort of the exception to the rule with Belgians, said Hanley, whos a deputy sheriff at a prison in Pennsylvania. They tend to be very aloof, one-bond, which means he would bond with me very protective, very loyal. But Eli is just so outgoing. Hes just perfect. I dont have kids, but he was great with kids. Hes very elegant looking and hes just a natural. Hes just wonderful.
Eli, who is one of the few surviving therapy dogs to have helped comfort survivors and first responders in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, will represent therapy dogs as the Canine Ambassador at the National Dog Show Presented by Purina, which airs on NBC from noon to 2 p.m. ET on Thanksgiving Day.
Before anyone says, "That's not the same breed!", the only difference between Gronendael, Malinois, Tervuren, and Lakenois is the coat. In Europe, they are all considered the same breed.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)It's a very fast breed *highly trainable* in the right hands.
many of the 'similar breeds' (I( know they're mixes of the same breed-lines) you listed in the end are so spooky in pet homes.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Your broad brush attack notwithstanding.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)I highly doubt your dogs are out of real working bloodlines. Most "real work" dogs are only offered to sale to police and military forces. Moist dogs in French Ring and similar events view it as a game. Trust me on this, true "man stoppers" must be bred that way. Like a hunting dog, you can work with what momma and daddy gave them, but if they did not get it, there is not much you can do with it
OnyxCollie
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Sunlei
(22,651 posts)But police should use this breed, when trained to bite- muzzled on "random searches".
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)but since it's your OP and you object, I edited my post.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Response to Feeling the Bern (Reply #19)
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CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Odd for a recently joined poster to refer to a rule removed in 2011.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)for personal attacks.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Goodbye.
MuseRider
(34,095 posts)He was beaten and dumped in an icy ditch down the road where I found him. He would not let me approach but I saw that he was very thin. I brought food and put it out and sat in my car and waited for Animal Control. The control lady was someone I knew pretty well and she and I were able to get him caught and she took him to the shelter. I kept track of him and when it looked like no one was going to claim or adopt him I went and got him. I was warned by the shelter that he was not a very nice dog. I thought he probably was without the abuse. He adapted to kind treatment right away. He never let a man near him except for my husband, who he got used to, and of course my two little boys whom he loved beyond measure. He lived a very long time until he had a stroke and died. He was a good boy, never vicious to those who were kind to him and those who he knew. Without the abuse that he took before he was dumped he probably never would have been mean. I took him to a trainer to see if I could get some good experience for him around other dogs and a man who knew about training done for security dogs. He told me that this dog was trained in a certain way and that it was cruel and he was probably meant to be a fighter or a security dog that would bite first and not stop. ANY dog will be like this if trained that way. I found him to be the sweetest but quirkiest (because if the abuse) dog I have ever had. I miss him to this day.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)I don't want anyone to be mistaken; Belgians are not Golden Retrievers. They are aloof and wary of strangers. They are, however, very smart and subject to boredom if not stimulated, so one has to be willing to provide them activities. (For us, it's playing in the yard or taking long {2.5 hrs} walks.)
Right now three of my dogs are in the backyard, staring at me through the window, waiting for me to come out, while the fourth is lying on the floor, watching me as I type this.
Since they just had their special weekend breakfast (fried egg), it's time for my to suit up and venture out into the cold.
MuseRider
(34,095 posts)Willie was a very smart and wonderful dog. He was devoted to me and to my sons. My husband and other men not so much although he knew if I was OK with them then he backed off. He was always unwilling to let me brush the back end of his body, some kind of training where they poke them and hurt them. It was so sad. We were able to finally get him shaved during the hot hot summer time and the groomers were kind but were never able to get his head so he always looked like Wylie Coyote when he would blow up his head! My kids loved the look, kinda punk. There are a million fun and funny stories with him over the years. We have always had dogs. This is the first time since we were married 33 year ago that we only have 2 dogs and neither of them are rescues. I do rescue a ton of cats out here on the farm. Willie was one of the easiest of the rescues, even though he was off a little always but he loved being loved.
Have fun with your walk.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)they are also a bit mentally fragile and will fall apart when stressed much faster than a good GSD. They are wound pretty tight. Many are indeed handler hard and will bite anything in their way.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)the Mals would be wary but calm, while the GSD's would be (literally) bouncing off the walls.
The GSD's are a bit too exuberant for my tastes.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)I ask because this is about the exact opposite of what most professional handlers will tell you.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)I worked for a few years at a boarding kennel. Cops would drop their dogs off there when going on vacation/holidays/etc.
Khaos, Crixus (Yeah, that was his name), and another dog we were never to say "sit" around, whose name I can't remember, were GSD's. Kolbe and Recon (who was retired and had cancer) were Mals.
In the kennel setting, the GSD's would spazz out, bouncing off the walls, spreading their poop everywhere. When hand walking was necessary, Khaos would soon start grabbing my shirtsleeve. Not the kind of thing to make me feel comfortable.
In contrast, the Mals were wary but calm. They were less unpredictable in their actions.
Look, I will admit that among the Belgians, the Mals are the most sketchy. (One of my friends has a rescue Mal that briefly went by the name, Sketchy.) However, I was less certain (and more worried) about the actions of the GSD's. Too much excitable energy without a safe conduit for expelling that energy is dangerous.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)In bite work, you can see a good GSD get pisse and hit the target because he wants to eliminate it. They get MAD. A malinois on the other hand often just likes to bite shit. They really don't care what they bite, they are just going to bite. they enjoy it.
As a general rule, Malinois are more hyper dogs than GSD. I cannot speak to the few you dealt with, but as far as a breed generality, Malinois are more sensitive, more nervous, more single minded, more athletic, and more energetic. They do not take pressure as well as a GSD.
Which on edit, I guess is kind of why this kid got bit. When you send a mal, they go like a bullet to their target and then they bite. They are fast, single-minded, biting machines. They handler was a fricking idiot for sending his dog with a kid in the car.
They other thing is, sadly, due to shitty American breeding practices, we have to import most of our working dogs. As the imported GSD and mals demand top dollar in Europe, we tend to get the "bottom of the barrel" sent over here, for the most part. Still, those lower European dogs are still way better than the shit most American (especially those AKC advocates) breeders put on the ground.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)If they're going to bite, there's not much deliberation or notice.
I feel more comfortable handling a dog with that temperament than with an excited GSD. (Happy? Ready to attack? Both?)
I dislike the trends in the AKC for GSD (body structure) and Belgians (head shape).
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Whatever you say.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,315 posts)It looks like this happened a year ago but I never saw it.
Yeah, cops love getting their bite on.
How does it make any sense to "clear" the car using a bite dog when you know the guy isn't the perpetrator they are looking for?
Toddler or grandmother, what sense does that even make?
Oh yeah, because - pigs.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)An infant?
It fucking attacks an infant?
Fuq da Poleece!
Fuq da Poleece!
Fuq da Poleece!
When you have 50+ white women saying that? The gig is up muthas.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,578 posts)And I'm not talking about the dog.