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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 04:14 PM Jan 2016

Meet The Child-Abusing Arsonists That Inspired The Oregon Militia Standoff

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The circumstances of both fires are worth examining. The first occurred in 2001. According to prosecutors, several members of the Hammond family set this fire “less than three hours after Steven Hammond illegally shot several deer on BLM land,” a claim they corroborate by citing testimony from D.H.*, Dwight’s grandson and Steven’s nephew. The fire, moreover, “consumed 139 acres of public land and destroyed all evidence of the game violations.”

D.H. also testified that his uncle Steven gave him matches and told him to help start the fires. Some time thereafter, D.H. says that he was separated from the rest of his family and found himself surrounded by burning flames. To escape harm he sheltered in a creek.

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D.H. also testified that, after the first fire, “Dwight told me to keep my mouth shut, that nobody needed to know about the fire, and they didn’t need to know anything about it.” According to D.H., Steven, who was sitting next to Dwight at the time, added that his nephew should “keep [his] mouth shut.” D.H. said that he complied with these instructions because he was “afraid of Steven and Susie [D.H’s grandmother, Dwight’s wife].”

D.H. appears to have had good reason to fear his family. In 2004, D.H. told a sheriff’s deputy about several times that he says he was abused. In one incident, Steven allegedly punched D.H. hard enough to knock him to the ground and “took [D.H.’s] face and rubbed it into the gravel” during an argument over how D.H. was performing his chores. In another incident, after D.H. was cited for being a minor in possession of alcohol, Steven allegedly punished D.H. by driving him ten miles from the family ranch and then making him walk home. In a third incident, after D.H. was cited as a minor in possession of tobacco, Steven allegedly “made him eat two (2) cans of Skoal Smokeless Tobacco and then again walk from Diamond, Oregon to the Hammond Ranch.”

A fourth incident is particularly striking, however. D.H., who reportedly has been diagnosed with depression, used a paper clip to carve the letter “J” into one side of his chest and the letter “S” onto the other side. In response, Steven allegedly “told him that he was not going to let [D.H.] deface the family by carving on himself.” D.H. said that Steven then used sandpaper to remove the carved letters from D.H.’s chest — sanding each side for at least five minutes. Steven also allegedly told D.H. that “he would filet the initials off” his chest if the sandpaper did not work.

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http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/01/04/3735722/meet-the-child-abusing-arsonists-at-the-center-of-the-oregon-militia-standoff/

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Meet The Child-Abusing Arsonists That Inspired The Oregon Militia Standoff (Original Post) cali Jan 2016 OP
Ugly Merikins. nt 2naSalit Jan 2016 #1
Obviously, they are not tree-hugging, hand wringing libruls, but REAL Murikan Men! Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #2
How sad. Cycles of ignorance and abuse passed down. Gregorian Jan 2016 #3
Good Christ. truebluegreen Jan 2016 #4
Greenwald naturally defends these clowns, because he hates Obama or something Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #5
That is a wild mischaracterization of Greenwald's statements kristopher Jan 2016 #8
Typical. mountain grammy Jan 2016 #11
He's just resorting to his winger past brush Jan 2016 #12
The family has disassociated itself from the protest. bluedigger Jan 2016 #6
Why isn't this being discussed on the cable "news" shows? world wide wally Jan 2016 #7
For some reason, being an angry, stupid, white armed conservatve means Rex Jan 2016 #9
This is probably why they don't want to associate with Bundy Quixote1818 Jan 2016 #10
I had been thinking PatSeg Jan 2016 #13
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
2. Obviously, they are not tree-hugging, hand wringing libruls, but REAL Murikan Men!
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 04:43 PM
Jan 2016

Salt of the earth, patriotic, heroes.

Aka: Half witted rubes.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
3. How sad. Cycles of ignorance and abuse passed down.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 04:54 PM
Jan 2016

I'm all for breaking the cycles. Here's a hint: it takes effort. I'm in a contest with myself to try and do better tomorrow than today. What's with all the violence.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
8. That is a wild mischaracterization of Greenwald's statements
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 06:44 PM
Jan 2016

1) I don't follow Greenwald or generally pay attention to the factions that debate his views.
2) I followed your link because of the particular topic.
3) Greenwald is against mandatory minimum sentences - that is not even remotely the same as "defending" the actions of the parties involved.

bluedigger

(17,085 posts)
6. The family has disassociated itself from the protest.
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 06:36 PM
Jan 2016

I don't see how going through their old history benefits anyone.

world wide wally

(21,738 posts)
7. Why isn't this being discussed on the cable "news" shows?
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jan 2016

Is Vanilla Isis the only group allowed access to "reporters" and "journalists"?
I would think some law enforcement people would be interviewed when laws are being broken.
WTF?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. For some reason, being an angry, stupid, white armed conservatve means
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 06:46 PM
Jan 2016

never fearing being shot by law enforcement or the very least - law enforcement doing everything possible to avoid killing and the M$M doing everything possible NOT to discuss the issue. As opposed to rolling up on a black kid with a toy gun and blowing them away in all of 2 seconds.

Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
10. This is probably why they don't want to associate with Bundy
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jan 2016

He doesn't want this getting out to the world.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
13. I had been thinking
Mon Jan 4, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jan 2016

that the sentences were too harsh, but I did not realize that lives were put in danger by this family's reckless behavior. I still don't like mandatory minimums, but I'm feeling no sympathy for these people at all.

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