Alex jones says

[Phlem]

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch/

The same guy I'm talking with says:

Bundy has in fact paid fees to Clark County, Nevada in an arrangement pre-dating the BLM. The BLM arrived much later, changed the details of the setup without consulting with Bundy -- or any other rancher -- and then began systematically driving out cattle and ranchers. Bundy refused to pay BLM, especially after they demanded he reduce his heard's head count down to a level that would not sustain his ranch. Bundy OWNS the water and forage rights to this land. He paid for these rights. He built fences, established water ways, and constructed roads with his own money, with the approval of Nevada and BLM. When BLM started using his fees to run him off the land and harassing him, he ceased paying. So should BLM reimburse him for managing the land and for the confiscation of his water and forage rights? Cliven Bundy's problem isn't that he didn't pay -- he did -- or that his cattle bother tortoises -- they don't -- it's that he's not a Reid donor. **One last thought: For those saying that since BLM arrived in the late 90s, it's the law now, well, so is Obamacare.

Can anyone verify this?

I'm going too, but I have an appointment that's going to put me out most of the day.

I would really love to clarify this and get back to this tool ASAP.

Yes, I did tell him Alex was full of BS and that he probably thinks he gets the news from Fox, but where did he get the BLM, Clarke county specifics?

[Sanity Claws]

1. Alex Jones?

That source makes me roll my eyes. He should be producing support for his statements, not us responding with documentation of his lies.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

6. "It's documented! This is all documented, you can read about it on Infowars.com!!11!" nt

[Bucky]

2. You don't shoot facts at Alex Jones just like you don't shoot bullets at Superman

You're wasting your ammo and your time

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. Demagogue: one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots. Mencken

[cali]

4. It's counter to everything I've read, and for fuck's sake, it's raving insane Alex Jones

[Blus4u]

5. I would suggest that you

quit talking to the guy.

I would surmise there are a lot of Nevada ranchers who are NOT Reid donors.

[Wellstone ruled]

16. The answer would be only one that we know of.

You are talking about the real Tea Baggers.

[packman]

7. Alex Jones?

[atreides1]

8. BLM was founded in 1946

But here is some information on the Bundy situation:

http://www.factandmyth.com/conspiracy-theory/cliven-bundys-cattle-and-the-federal-land-grab

[el_bryanto]

11. That's some good info; thanks for posting. nt

[underpants]

18. Thanks

[Phlem]

19. Thanks, this helps a lot!

Thank you atreides1, you rock!

[cheapdate]

9. Bundy decided many years ago, based on the kind of crazy legal theories

held by the "sovereign citizens movement" and people like Alex Jones, that he would no longer comply with fee schedules or grazing restrictions because he didn't recognize the U.S. government as the legitimate land owner. The courts unequivocally disagreed.

[MohRokTah]

10. Clark County has never owned the land nor has it ever recieved payments from Bundy.

Bundy claims he'll pay the county but not the feds, but the county has never owned the land and has never agreed to a penny being paid.

This is akin to telling your landlord that you've agreed to pay your rent to your brother-in-law so everything should be fine.

[JTFrog]

12. I'm sure that Crackpot Jones appreciates you providing click bait to his site,

but I remain adamant in my opinion that DU should not be used to drive traffic to the most despicable and disgusting right wing looney conspiracy sites out there. This one used to be an automatic delete by the mods before the stupid jury thing was implemented.

[Phlem]

13. The guy I'm talking with is on FB

He used AJ for brief support of his argument but then layed out the paragraph (in Blue) separate from that. If it was on the AJ website then I would have just ignored him.

[JTFrog]

15. Info wars is the AJ website.....

The one you linked to in your OP. If I were you I'd remove the link to that nasty site.

[sharp_stick]

14. When Alex Jones says

something, and I by that I mean any emission at all, you can take to the bank that the entire statement is bullshit and totally unverifiable.

[Phlem]

17. This is why I love DU.

When we all work together we're unstoppable. Thank you all for taking your valuable time to respond to my request.

You ALL Rock!

[Phlem]

20. Just an update.

There was no reply to my post and he is nowhere to be found. Doubt I'll ever hear from him again. All in my FB page corrupting the dialogue with my friends.

Gone.

Thank you guys.