Raw Story just ran that they are cutting off the power

[leftyladyfrommo]

And the phones and blocking off all the roads. And snow is coming in.

None of the other militia groups are supporting these guys. They are all distancing themselves.

[ryan_cats]

1. Let

Let me know when they cut off oxygen.

[LynneSin]

22. I think that happened at birth

How else could explain a bunch of weekend warrior ammosexuals taking over a bird sanctuary in the middle of an Oregon winter without bringing enough snacks or warm socks.

Hell at least if I was that stupid, my militia would have at least taken over a road rest somewhere along I95 in Florida - there it would have been warm and plenty of vending machines filled with snacks!

[AlbertCat]

35. This^

LOL

[lunatica]

37. Ammosexuals!

[closeupready]

44. lol, yeah, I think so.

[workinclasszero]

67. "I think that happened at birth"

[ChairmanAgnostic]

68. Hard to tell, with all that inbreeding they had.

[workinclasszero]

72. Too much planning for white ISIS bro patriots

...at least taken over a road rest somewhere along I95 in Florida - there it would have been warm and plenty of vending machines filled with snacks!

These guys have never heard of Sun Tzu it seems LOL

[tblue37]

81. I'd call them Vanilla IS. nt

[workinclasszero]

92. They vanilla all right

or they all would be dead already.

[SCantiGOP]

116. Perfect time for them

to re-enact Valley Forge. But remember, half of Washington's troops didn't even have proper footwear.

[Politicub]

91. Ammosexuals - love it!

[ms liberty]

107. DU'zy! n/t

[KittyWampus]

2. I can't believe they are only just getting around to doing this.

[madokie]

5. I'm happy that they're

making sure they have their ducks in a row, so to say, before they escalate this further. Remember we're the good guys, the grown ups

if there were hostages or if they were trashing the place then work faster in shutting them down but I've not seen anything to suggest either is happening yet. Just the Yal'Qeuda being there is enough damage. IMO

[randys1]

102. I say let them walk away whenever they want, dont arrest them...

Then show up a month later with federal warrants and arrest them when they arent expecting it.

But they must pay a price for this or it will happen over and over and over again.

[madokie]

109. Oh yeah I agree

[LynneSin]

23. It only started Saturday. I think the Feds gave them a few days to use up supplies

Knowing that the group already needs food and warm clothes, now the Feds know it won't be long.

[AlbertCat]

40. Since the Amosexuals are there in the hopes of starting a fight...

..... and I bet they are so stupid they actually hope someone gets killed.... or at lest shot...


The Feds (haunted by Waco) are being "nonchalant" and not too aggressive. This should be given the Ho-Hum that the "militia" doesn't want more than anything. They should be made to look as foolish and stupid as they are.

[louis-t]

105. The Feds let them have their 'Yee-Haw' moment

and are now awaiting their 'Oh Shit' moment.

[nadinbrzezinski]

36. Partially I can

1 sheriff, two deputies ain't gonna do it

They needed to wait for the Feds to show up, and without reading the story... I am willing to bet the FBI SWAT is taking over the scene... which they should since this is federal land. But... they had to physically drive them in.

[Bluenorthwest]

46. I can. Harney County is a bit larger than Vermont, has 7,000 residents and a Sheriff who took office

Jan 1st. The weather has been poor and just getting the equipment and personnel required to close roads and keep a lid on it would take many hours, into days. They don't have the wherewithal in Harney County to deal with such things and all that stuff has to come from far away. 3 hours to Boise, over 5 to Portland....

[classof56]

80. Well, I guess they could burn the sagebrush and roast the birds and pronghorn who live in the refuge

I've even seen the occasional jackrabbit in the area, sort of a rarity nowadays. As an Oregonian who lives a couple hours west of Burns, I highly resent my taxes being used to provide utilities to those idiots, so hope the power cutting is a done deed. By their very presence, they are fouling one of the most spectacular places in SE Oregon. Anyone familiar with the history of that area doubtless know the story of Pete French and what happened to him. Bundy and Crowd might do well to watch their backs. Not advocating violence, of course, just sayin'...

Peace.

[KittyWampus]

108. Thank You for the perspective.

[Katashi_itto]

79. Fire self deploying Razorwire cannisters into the area so they cant get out. Then drop books on

the Donner Party on them.
Drop a single fifty pound bag of potatoes on them once a week -we don't want them to totally starve; just be very very uncomfortable.
Set up ear shattering music 24/7 Muslim Devotional Chants would be best.
Set up communication jammers and then wait for Spring.

[tblue37]

82. Isolated, low-populated area in winter driving conditions means the cops were outnumbered

and didn't have enough manpower to create a perimeter, so they had to wait for enough federal agents to arrive to take such action.

[peacebird]

3. Good.

[malaise]

4. There are no militias

There are white supremacists, anti-government groups and mixtures of both.

[leftyladyfrommo]

11. Wel,l the guys that call themselves militias .

They are all backing off.

This bunch has no support. I think they figured that all the groups would rally around. Hasn't happened.

This bird refuge has been in existence since 1908 and it's important income producer for this really isolated area. Birders from all over come in here and they need places to stay and places to eat and buy supplies.

The local people don't want these guys bringing a whole bunch of trouble in here. They are afraid to even send their kids to school.

[LynneSin]

24. I was thinking the same thing - all the real militia groups have disavowed these people

So have the Mormons and even the 2 men going to jail for which these idiots are protesting.

So at this point these idiots aren't militia they are Teahadist Ya'llQaeda idiots. I'm sure somewhere over in Syria, the ISIS rebels are seeing Vanilla ISIS and are shaking their heads and thinking 'NO F*CKING WAY'

[minidriver]

74. ISIS reaction

Damn, you people have some seriously f'ed-up religious nutjobs there.

[malaise]

114. Thanks for this

[justiceischeap]

6. More info (like link to article)

Authorities plan to cut off power to militia at occupied Oregon refuge

Federal authorities are planning to cut off the power of the wildlife refuge in Oregon that has been taken over by militia , exposing the armed occupiers to sub-zero temperatures in an effort to flush them out.

snip

“After they shut off the power, they’ll kill the phone service,” the government official added. “Then they’ll block all the roads so that all those guys have a long, lonely winter to think about what they’ve done.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/authorities-plan-to-cut-off-power-to-militia-at-occupied-oregon-refuge/

[mulsh]

21. I hope they also cut off the water on that site.

n/t

[bhikkhu]

26. I think there is a natural spring there

not to mention the lake.

[flamin lib]

60. Won't have to. The weather will freeze all above ground water lines. nt

[cali]

7. Good.

[cali]

8. Link?

[GummyBearz]

9. Sad news for a few people who wanted to see them get drone bombed

Good news for the people that use their brain. Obama is doing the right things here.

[mac2766]

54. Obama?

I wonder how much influence over what takes place in this situation the President of the United States actually has.

[GummyBearz]

56. Its on federal land, and while laughable they are directly challenging the central government

Remember Waco? Lets not repeat it

[mac2766]

62. I'm not disputing that... I should have

worded my post differently.

What I should have said was this...

I doubt that President Obama has much direct influence on this, and I'd doubt he's directly involved other than the occasional briefing. There are many more serious issues that he needs to be directly involved in. The FBI has leadership and subordinates that will be able to make the decisions, and take the necessary actions to end the situation.

That's all I was getting at. Not a critique, just a statement.

[MineralMan]

10. Good move. Blockade them and freeze them out.

That's what I'd do.

[cali]

12. Here's a link to the Guardian source story about this

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/05/oregon-wildlife-militia-standoff-power-cut-off

[Marty McGraw]

104. makes me wonder

If they will end up doing the David Koresh thing and Light the Place up in order to Stay warm. They are just that Stooopid.

[exboyfil]

13. Send them copies of "The Indifferent Stars Above"

It talks about the Donner party. Can keep them entertained during those cold evenings by the camp fire.

[leftyladyfrommo]

16. I thought about that, too.

They ended up eating each other.

I doubt that will happen here but the article said they don't really have much food. Lots of ramen noodles, some canned stuff and a box of apples. Yum.

[2naSalit]

73. Except...

they might not be able to read anything with words longer than a syllable or five letters long... and then there's that pesky comprehension thing.

[randome]

14. Any group associated with that loser Jon Ritzheimer is bound to fail.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[drray23]

15. not enough.

Its a good start but they also need to surround the place and arrest them as they leave. They need to be charged for trespassing at the least. If they are allowed to repeat these kinds of actions with zero consequences it will embolden them further.

[morningfog]

64. This move will get them out, where they will be arrested.

[drray23]

75. it will get them out.

What I worry about is the willingness of the authorities to charge them instead of letting them go free as in the cliven bundy incident.
Hence my comment about surrounding the place and picking them up as they leave the place after they run out of food.

[morningfog]

76. They aren't going to be allowed to go free. They will be arrested and charged, without a doubt.

They have blocked every road in and out.

[starroute]

89. In the Cliven Bundy case, they had sharpshooters on overpasses

The Bureau of Land Management didn't want to put their own people at risk. The tactical situation in the nature refuge is very different.

[drray23]

90. they still could have charged them after the fact.

I expect the police, not the blm to make arrests. its their job.

[Whiskeytide]

17. I think it's comical that...

... they've been ignored by authorities. They held a gubmint takeover, and standoff ... and no one showed up!

Now they need snacks?

And socks?

Priceless.

[Laxman]

18. What Do You Mean They Cut The Power?

[pinboy3niner]

19. Nuke the site from orbit

It's the only way to be sure.

[NurseJackie]

28. LOL!!

[ChisolmTrailDem]

78. Brilliant!

[ljm2002]

20. Yay!

That's what we all wanted, too bad it took a few days but good they're doing it now.

Let's see how tough these "tough guys" really are.

Enjoy your stay, bozos.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

25. Winter's coming, dumbasses. And no, you can't watch Game of Thrones or anything else.

[pintobean]

34. Winter is here

It began on December 21st.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

42. It's a phrase from the television show that was referenced on the self-same line.

[LanternWaste]

51. You made the joke accurate! Now it's hilarious...

You made the joke accurate! Now it's hilarious...

[pintobean]

71. If being in on the joke requires watching a fantasy tv show

on pay cable, I'll pass.

Maybe I could appear more informed if I repeat myself.
Maybe I could appear more informed if I repeat myself.
Nope, that just makes me look like a dumbass.

[NewJeffCT]

86. You could also have been in on the joke

if you were one of the millions who have read the well regarded books upon which the TV show is based. Available for free at most public libraries.

[pintobean]

98. I'm still okay with not being in on it

like billions of others.

[starroute]

93. All it takes is noticing the dozens of internet memes floating by

No reading or watching required.

[pintobean]

99. Simply don't give a fuck.

[leftyladyfrommo]

47. There is a reason not very many people live out there.

Winter on the high plains is a bitch. It's not just the cold and snow, it's the wind.

Once they cut the power they won't be able to charge their cellphones. Or can they just cut cellphone transmissions from the nearest tower? I don't know how that works. I wonder if there even is cell phone reception out there in the middle of nowhere.

These guys really didn't think this thing through very well.

[LiberalArkie]

70. They have cell phone jammers, all they have to do is point an antenna at the building and

the phones stop working.

[lonestarnot]

27. Ewweee. They gona get the brain freeze.

[AlbertCat]

45. They gona get the brain freeze.

What brain?

[wheniwasincongress]

29. It sounds fun there

Freezing cold, bunch of guys, no bathing, energy drinks and junk food... Do they have toilets for their diarrhea?

[Marty McGraw]

106. Not when the cut off the Water

But there's a kitty litter bucket they could always stoop and pay homage to.



Their deep fry vat is apt to get their guts rumblin some.

[PatrynXX]

30. albeit I do love FBI tactics and Die Hard

First thing to do is cut the power. and viola money.. course thats the movies this is real life. they ain't looking for money hence why they are making Rednecks look smart X_X

[underpants]

84. Thinking along the same lines. They SOOOO think they are Die Hard now

But they are in a one floor building and snow is coming (it won't be snowing untraceable bonds like the end of the movie).

[lpbk2713]

31. Break out the windows.

And make them pay for the damage later. And make them pay for all other expenses
involved in removing tresspassers from federal government property.

[workinclasszero]

32. About ***kin time!

Those fat ass "patriots&quot SPIT) ain't gonna last too much longer now with no power, no internet and most of all..NO TWINKIES!!!

[bullwinkle428]

33. This thing will be over by the weekend, if not sooner.

[Warpy]

38. As long as they cut off media access

this will be over soon. Sadly, I'm afraid they'll find the facility has been completely trashed. All that remains is adding up the damages and submitting a bill to the Bundy clan, which they'll duly ignore because wrecking a bird sanctuary is what they're all about.

[leftyladyfrommo]

53. I worry about the damage a whole bunch of those yayhoos would do to the refuge.

They come in there with their monster trucks and 4 wheelers and would just wreck the place.

[SoapBox]

39. About time...

[angrychair]

41. Dang

Was waiting for a teapublican to advocate for "strategic" carpet bombing till the desert sand glows.

[B Calm]

43. I'm sick of hearing about these free loading terrorists. If they don't round these assholes

up and arrest them when this is all over, it will just incite more of this type of domestic terror.

[AlbertCat]

48. Why obey laws?

The Wall Street crooks who ruined the economy are still having their chauffeurs drive them around.

The unelected president who lied us into the longest war we've ever fought is at home painting bad pictures.


Why should any of us follow laws????

[B Calm]

50. I'm in no hurry to become a domestic terrorist, but that is the message the law enforcement

will be making if they get away with this crap.

[AlbertCat]

58. but that is the message

My point exactly.

But it isn't a message "they will be making".... it's been made already..... years ago.

[JackInGreen]

49. Gods willing

There are Donners among them.

[leftyladyfrommo]

52. They could make them pay the bill for all of this before they let them out.

That would include the cost of police presence out there. And any damage to the property.

[peace13]

55. Give them all the time you want...

....but at the end of the day use the laws to put these people away. People in this country need to know , OK have your guns but if you go around breaking the laws with your guns wagging at your side, your actions will have consequences!

[leftyladyfrommo]

57. I agree with you in principal. But

I don't think they want to get these anti government guys stirred up. I think the article I just read said there are about 250 of these groups out there and even if they are small it's still a lot of guys just waiting to start trouble.

We have enough trouble going on right now without these yayhoos all going off the deep end.

[peace13]

66. I understand.

That is the problem in this country. The macho gun slingers waltz around the village because they know the authorities are afraid to 'stir it up'. Yet some people in the country are gunned down for having their hands in their pockets. We can't have it both ways. We need to face these issues and decide how this country is going to look in the near future. I for one do not wish to live in the Wild West!

The groups are throughout the U.S. And when you take the tally and include the millions of guns we have on the street it is anything but a small issue.

[Renew Deal]

59. Because many of these militia guys are just trying to get out of the house

They're not that serious.

[leftyladyfrommo]

63. I think it's just a big game to a lot of these guys.

It's something to do. Get all dressed up and sit around and talk big with the guys. Play soldier out in the woods.

If they actually set off to do one thing dangerous their wives would kill them.

Remember this the same bunch who moved all the women up to the front so they would bever first to go. That's how tough they early are.

[Owl]

61. Is this more than just a rumor?

[Matariki]

65. About time.

[griloco]

69. Thoug the Feds shud allow the Budweiser delivery truck in. nt

[niyad]

77. what took them so long? should have been done immediately.

[2naSalit]

87. Logistics.

Out here in the west, it's a long drive to get from point A to point B. Hell I have a 100 mile drive just to get to a big box store of any kind. And the weather, been a few storms rolling through...

And getting any kind of significant number of personnel to a place that remote also takes time, especially if there's no airport nearby that can accommodate large aircraft.

And I suspect that letting these idiots get settled in and feeling comfortable and wary since they weren't getting the immediate war they wanted might be an advantage.

[niyad]

88. I know all about the long distances in the west. what I don't understand is what planes

and bringing in personnel have to do with cutting off the power.

[2naSalit]

94. Oh.

I agree with you on that part.

[drray23]

96. probably because they waited to have

the infrastructure in place , i.e law enforcement around the place to also be able to control the situation and stop them from getting resupplied or going themselves

[2naSalit]

83. If these guys don't have warm socks and snacks

it goes to show that not many wiminfolkes came along... probably staying home t cash the welfare and SSI checks. They should be banned from collecting anything from the government from SSI to military pensions (if any of the actually served and can collect) and SNAP... any kind of subsidy. And any wiminfolkes who did go there are probably ready to rip their menfolkes a new one right about now.

Fun's over.

Looking at their recruitment video, those kkklowns looked cold and scared.

I wonder if any had the wherewithal to have a plowblade on the front of their monster trucks. That road probably won't be plowed until they come out which will make it hard for them to receive supplies.

No warm socks and some deep snow followed by bitter cold... yeah, that will be entertaining to watch. With one road to the place, it's gonna be easy to scoop 'em up as they try to get those big monster trucks out of there.

[NewJeffCT]

85. Shouldn't these manly he-men

be able to live off the land? Kill their own food, prep it, cook it over the campfire and sleep out under the stars? That's how the cowboys did it!

[KingCharlemagne]

111. I wonder if any of them thought to bring salt? - nt

[MADem]

95. I think they need to get the highway department out there with a flatbed full of Jersey barriers

And put a nice little ring around their rosie.

Then, what I'd do is have a steak fry for all the law enforcement people and media who are outside the perimeter. They need to make sure they set up the BBQ so that the smell of the meat wafts towards those putzes in the building.

[niyad]

97. love your thinking!!

[MADem]

100. In the morning, they need to set one of those pizza oven things up on the BBQ, and

cook cinnamon rolls! Then, a little later, they need to fry up some bacon and eggs and sausage for the breakfast crew!!

What's for lunch? Oooooh, how 'bout RIBS? Mmmm, mmm, that's good eatin'!!!

Late night snack? Popcorn.....mmmm, rich, buttery popcorn--that's the ticket!

They can run through all the recipes in a tailgating cook book, and have a big old party out there while they wait!

[niyad]

101. truly wicked

[MADem]

103. I love me some peaceful resolutions to conflict...and terrorist take-overs, too!! nt

[tabasco]

115. LOL! Love that idea! n/t

[SoCalDem]

110. Cut power/water/cell service/and build a "safety" fence

around them../ Let them know they can leave anytime...but their guns stay behind for safety reasons

[KingCharlemagne]

112. Someone needs to tell them they are surrounded, to put down their

weapons and come out with their hands up, because they are all UNDER ARREST!

[Whoa_Nelly]

113. ....

[DebbieCDC]

117. "Ammosexual" wins all the Internet points