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Eugene

(61,874 posts)
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 07:44 PM Jan 2016

Leader of armed protesters in Oregon took out $530,000 federal loan

Source: CNN

Leader of armed protesters in Oregon took out $530,000 federal loan

By Ralph Ellis, Holly Yan and Sara Sidner, CNN
Updated 2010 GMT (0410 HKT) January 5, 2016 | Video Source: CNN

Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, Oregon (CNN) - Ammon Bundy, a leader of the armed protesters who took over a federal building in Oregon, and his family are known for battling the federal government.

But Bundy told CNN on Tuesday that he's not opposed to government and said that taking a six-figure loan from the Small Business Administration doesn't conflict with his political philosophy.

Bundy borrowed $530,000 in 2010 for his company, Valet Fleet Service LLC, according to public records on usaspending.gov. Valet Fleet Service is a truck maintenance company in Arizona.

"I am not anti-government," he said when asked about the loan while standing outside the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, adding that he thinks "there is a role for government and that the federal government's role is to protect the states from the outside world."

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Bundy denied he was being hypocritical about the loan because it "was an effort in assisting the people in using their rights."

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Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/05/us/oregon-wildlife-refuge-armed-protest/
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Leader of armed protesters in Oregon took out $530,000 federal loan (Original Post) Eugene Jan 2016 OP
I cannot follow that thought process. tishaLA Jan 2016 #1
there is no thought process outside that of a self centered obsession with their own benefit KittyWampus Jan 2016 #8
The philosophy of Ammon Bundy Solly Mack Jan 2016 #2
Addendum... opiate69 Jan 2016 #5
That needed to be added. Thank you. Solly Mack Jan 2016 #6
Would that I could suck so generously from the government teat.... opiate69 Jan 2016 #7
Needs to be exposed roscoeroscoe Jan 2016 #3
the bigger the binkie, the louder the tantrum MisterP Jan 2016 #4

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
1. I cannot follow that thought process.
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jan 2016

the government protects the states "from the outside world," so therefore a small business loan is good because it helps people "in using their rights"? What the fuck does that even mean?

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
2. The philosophy of Ammon Bundy
Tue Jan 5, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jan 2016
"there is a role for government and that the federal government's role is to protect the states from the outside world."

"And the state's role is to protect the counties from the federal government -- and the county's role is to protect the people from the state so the people can go about freely using their lands and resources and their rights



So, government's role is leave him the fuck alone and let him do as he pleases.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
5. Addendum...
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 12:18 AM
Jan 2016

So, government's role is leave him the fuck alone and loan him the money at federally guaranteed/subsidized interest rates (almost certainly under market rates) so that he can afford to do as he pleases.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
7. Would that I could suck so generously from the government teat....
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 12:22 AM
Jan 2016

Alas, I have that pesky integrity...

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