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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCNN is now live reporting that the FBI has issued arrest warrants
for 4 Oregon Morans.
lulz
Renew Deal
(81,801 posts)Why just 4?
MissB
(15,800 posts)identify and that have made threatening statements.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Ammon Bundy
Ryan Bundy
Jon Ritzheimer
Blaine Cooper
Those are the ringleaders and all four have been very public in this.
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)He's all ready to leave his peeps and die for that bird sanctuary because <words>
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 5, 2016, 10:51 PM - Edit history (1)
He's being mocked incessantly via Twitter and Youtube combined over that video.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)They just cannot issue a warrant because they don't have his name right now.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Every prison needs one.
Gods Slayer
(52 posts)Just for impersonating a Captain
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)The "Bundy Boys" are probably the others, as their names are known.
Welcome to DU, Gods Slayer! It's a great community, I hope that you enjoy it here.
Peace,
Ghost
Gods Slayer
(52 posts)But I don't believe in ghosts either
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)I guess that makes us even, as I don't believe in God, therefore his "Slayer" must not be real either.. but here we are!
Peace,
Ghost
Gods Slayer
(52 posts)Didn't occur to me one has to believe in god(s) to slay them.
Did you call me a believer?
I kill you.
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Okay so they brought generators with limited fuel supply. Limited food. Cut off access to media, you all are familiar with the media "safe zones". No electricity, no easy access to water. No 'snacks or warm socks" coming on from USPS. This should be a quick and easy surrender.
Unless of course they ask Native Americans to join with them, because that is who they are standing for!
Gods Slayer
(52 posts)Fence them and let them eat each other
Joking
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)strategy... cut off ALL access to the outside world, except for law enforcement, then wait them out until they get too cold, hungry and bored. Give as little media attention as possible, since that is also what they crave.
Ultimately though, they will choose their own ending to this story by their own actions, whether it ends peacefully, or with bloodshed.
Peace,
Ghost
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)they are really ready yet to be martyrs for whatever cause it is they are fighting for.
Peace to you too!
jmowreader
(50,447 posts)7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)figure this one out. Bless their Constitution ever-loving little hearts!
flamingdem
(39,303 posts)or it sounds that way, haven't seen it.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)at the first "Thanksgiving"!
I suspect no help is coming.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)Didn't Moroni float in mid-air ? .... It's gotta be hard to capture a floating god ...
Gods Slayer
(52 posts)Picky, those floating gods
jmowreader
(50,447 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,889 posts)and the snacks were running out.
The feds could just let those Yeehawdists sit in
that prison of their own making for a few silent frozen months.
Yeah, I'd be okay with that
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Pretty sloppy of them.
flamingdem
(39,303 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)omfg that is hilarious
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)Gods Slayer
(52 posts)With a Diet Coke and upsized fries?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)I love cartography myself.
flamingdem
(39,303 posts)but with inspiration of the cowliphate I ran across it by association.
Perfect!
jmowreader
(50,447 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Their entire movement destroyed in one picture
8 track mind
(1,638 posts)LMAO
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)coming from.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)That will mean mandatory minimum sentences and pleading not guilty is going to be a bit difficult.
NBachers
(16,998 posts)I hope this is the Efrem Zimbalist Jr. FBI, and not the gang of incompetents who have been exposed recently.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)And you can always plead not guilty. Though getting a not guilty after a federal trial is very very difficult.
jmowreader
(50,447 posts)You should ALWAYS plead not guilty even if they catch you in the act. It is your right as a citizen.
jpak
(41,741 posts)n/t
GGJohn
(9,951 posts)those are Federal warrants, coming out of the DoJ.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Federal District Court. Someone had to sign the Warrants.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)At least it will not come out of Utah or Nevada. Issues.
Logical
(22,457 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)That would be TRUE Justice.
struggle4progress
(118,032 posts)JANUARY 5, 2016 8:19 PM
... LaVoy Finicum, an Arizona rancher, told reporters at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge Tuesday evening that he is one of the people who is a subject of the warrants, but he offered no details.
The FBI in Portland referred calls to the Harney County Joint Information Center, which said in a statement it had no information on arrests or arrest warrants and that authorities were "still working on a peaceful resolution."
Finicum, holding a rifle and a backpack, told reporters he would stay at the entrance to the refuge overnight so authorities could find him. Ammon Bundy, a group leader, said they would take a defensive position anticipating a possible raid ...
http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article53100865.html
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)·BURNS, Ore. Jan 5, 2016, 9:16 PM ET
5:05 p.m.
A member of the small, armed group that has been occupying a national wildlife refuge in Oregon says he believes federal officials have issued warrants for the arrest of five group members.
LaVoy Finicum, an Arizona rancher, told reporters at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge Tuesday evening that he is one of the people who is a subject of the warrants, but he offered no details.
The FBI in Portland referred calls to the Harney County Joint Information Center, which said in a statement it had no information on arrests or arrest warrants and that authorities were "still working on a peaceful resolution."
...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-armed-group-pressing-us-land-transfer-36104318
Egnever
(21,506 posts)I hope they aren't and warrants are indeed issued but considering this info seems to be coming from one of the goofballs themselves
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)and reinforcements.
They'll set up a decoy BlueTarp"Man" at the gate and hide behind a truck.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Ya see, this here was a psy-op. We acted like we was goin to be invaded. So's when we're really invaded we'll put out a couple of chairs with blue tarps. The Feds will go for the tarps and then, blam, we pop out of the septic tank!
Quixote1818
(28,903 posts)thought this was stupid on Bundy's part. If they can take them peacefully I suspect other nut cases won't try and blow up any Federal Buildings over this which is a good thing.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Yallow
(1,926 posts)2 years ago....
Punx
(446 posts)If true.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)At a late, impromptu press conference, Bundy said they've "heard" 5 warrants have been issued.
One of those who believes he's named in a warrant is sitting out front with his rifle, vowing that he will not be arrested and is willing to die.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)CNN fucking well sucks if they're reporting the FBI has warrants because Y'AllQuaeda says they do.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)They are not reporting it as fact. AP also reported the same.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)I have a family member who thinks the Bundy crowd are heroes. He's a flaming asshole, gunnut, convicted child pornographer, out on probation, general all-around moron. Through him I have met a number of these idjits. Most of them have lots of tattoos.
One tat that is common among these jackasses is " Molon labe (Greek: μολὼν λαβέ " Translation: "Come and take them."
According to Herodotus, when the Persian armies demanded that the Greeks surrender their weapons at the Battle of Thermopylae, King Leonidas I responded with this phrase. Present-day gunnuts adorn themselves with "Molon Labe" tats and wear hats and shirts with the motto, daring the feds to come and get their guns.
Well, boys, HERE THEY COME!!!!!!!! You goddam well asked for it.
And I'll bet everyone of these heroes surrenders like a whipped pup.
Gods Slayer
(52 posts)They talk the talk, do they walk the walk?
I doubt it.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)Our media is a complete fucking sham.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)I can't see how the two are related.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)They are reporting that the Bundy gang BELIEVES warrants have been issued.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)And it's hard to not report what they say when they hold a press conference about it.
jpak
(41,741 posts)n/t
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Initially it was an update from the woman that CNN has at the facility itself, reporting on what Finicum believes. She's out in the wilderness with them, miles from any law enforcement personnel and further from any federal court. She would have no information about what, if anything, the FBI is doing.
kelly1mm
(4,719 posts)marble falls
(56,353 posts)emulatorloo
(43,979 posts)He claims the Feds are coming for him, and if they point a gun on him he will point his gun at the fed.
These boys are nuts.
Reporter is interviewing him off mic, will summarize soon I expect.
drm604
(16,230 posts)Apparently it's refuge owned or leased earth moving equipment that they hot-wired or something.
Gore1FL
(21,027 posts)The need to lock them down--no access. Cut off all utilities. Bathe the building in bright light. jam the cell signals. Keep them awake with loud recordings 24 hours a day (preferably things they would hate).
given time, the terrorists will either:
Surrender,
Play their own version of "Donner Family" in the building when food, water, and toilet paper run out, or
Come out guns blazing, weakened, groggy, one at a time, stumbling through the door in bright light.
Time is on the side of the FBI. They should let this one run for a while for the laughs.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)fine their asses for wrecking the lawn in front of the Visitor's Center.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)...
The FBI is handling a criminal case against the armed men occupying the refuge since Saturday, and has told (Sheriff) Ward that the men will face charges. The sheriff still believes a peaceful resolution to the conflict is possible.
The bureau has assured me that those at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge will at some point face charges, Ward said.
Ward did not give specifics on what charges the men will face.
http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/harney-county-sheriff-armed-occupiers-will-face-charges/
GD thread:
Harney County Sheriff: Armed Occupiers Will Face Charges (Audio)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027503020
niyad
(112,424 posts)They need to be taken into custody and face the music for their actions.
3Stones
(85 posts)Please don't call these thugs Oregonians....
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)People are laughing, making fun of us.
Please send ticket for the next homebound Greyhound bus."
With apologies to Allan Sherman.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts).... Snip......
Wataminnit, Feds are coming
We got guns, scare them running
Guns are shooting! that's much bettah!
Mudda Fadda kindly disregard this lettah
hay rick
(7,520 posts)Who knew?